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  • PM accuses Portia of backtracking on anti-crime measures

    PM accuses Portia of backtracking on anti-crime measures
    BY Balford Henry Observer writer balfordh@jamaicaobserver.com
    Monday, November 17, 2008


    Prime Minister Bruce Golding yesterday accused Opposition Leader Portia Simpson Miller of backtracking on bipartisan agreements to control crime and violence reached at the Vale Royal talks in June.
    "The Opposition needs to make up its mind on which side it wants to rest," Golding said, noting that he has written to Simpson Miller seeking further discussions to end the stand-off.
    An angry Jamaica Labour Party supporter (left) argues with policemen outside the National Arena in Kingston yesterday after three men attending the party's 65th annual conference were shot. One of the men died. (Photo: Joseph Wellington)
    "I am saying to the opposition leader, you cannot run with the hare and hunt with the hounds," he stated in a near two-hour speech to an audience at the Jamaica Labour Party's (JLP's) 65th annual conference depleted by a shooting incident earlier that started inside the National Arena and continued outside.
    Golding said that following the bipartisan talks, Simpson Miller stood beside him on the steps of Vale Royal "and made statements to the press that we had agreed on an accord and that the Opposition was in full support of the approach".
    He said that during those discussions, he had made proposals which were much more drastic than those agreed, but that in order to get the support of the Opposition he had toned them down.
    "We had to tone down and we had to water down and we had to modify," Golding said. "When we get to Parliament, now all of a sudden the Opposition is no longer onboard."
    However, the prime minister insisted that the Government will go ahead with the six crime bills he has tabled, and will put them to the vote. But he admitted that two of the bills will need Opposition support due to their constitutional nature.
    "We are going to put it to the vote and if the Opposition decides to withdraw their support, we will go ahead with those which we have the power to enact," he stated.
    Golding said that he would be disappointed if the Opposition withdraws support, as the bills are crucial in the fight against crime and need the united support of both sides.
    The six crime bills tabled by Golding in the first week of September have been stalled since being reviewed by a joint select committee headed by Attorney-General and Minister of Justice Senator Dorothy Lightbourne.
    The delay is primarily due to differences between the Government and the Opposition on several issues, mainly a proposed amendment to the Bail Act, which would allow police to detain persons accused of gun crimes for up to 60 days without bail. The proposed legislation would, however, be an interim one lasting for 12 months initially.

    http://www.jamaicaobserver.com/news/..._MEASURES_.asp
    "Jamaica's future reflects its past, having attained only one per cent annual growth over 30 years whilst neighbours have grown at five per cent." (Article)

  • #2
    Originally posted by Lazie View Post
    "I am saying to the opposition leader, you cannot run with the hare and hunt with the hounds," he stated in a near two-hour speech to an audience at the Jamaica Labour Party's (JLP's) 65th annual conference depleted by a shooting incident earlier that started inside the National Arena and continued outside.
    Him fi know!

    Originally posted by Lazie View Post
    "We are going to put it to the vote and if the Opposition decides to withdraw their support, we will go ahead with those which we have the power to enact," he stated.
    Do something, Bruce! Forget the opposition, there ain't none! DO!


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    • #3
      No opposition ???

      Whatever do you mean ? Last I checked they had a good number of seats...

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      • #4
        As did the last JLP opposition that was a non-entity while Eddie was still in charge.


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        • #5
          So there is an opposition ?

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          • #6
            No!


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            • #7
              Suh den the JLP should be able to pass all their crime bills without a problem then...?

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              • #8
                I dunno. Can they pass one, just one degeh-degeh bill?


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                • #9
                  Well.. I suppose if you take a very simplistic view then yeah.. I presume that would be the worst case scenario in terms of a strategic approach...

                  If di PNP force that play then.. suh it haffi guh... it look like PNP dragging dem feet as usual though..

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                  • #10
                    Bruce a look scapegoat. i don't believe it when government points to opposition as the problem, them must find ways around it.
                    • Don't let negative things break you, instead let it be your strength, your reason for growth. Life is for living and I won't spend my life feeling cheated and downtrodden.

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                    • #11
                      Maybe we are reading two different statements.

                      The preferred approach is a coalition.. if that option is not available well yuh haffi duh what yuh haffi duh.. yuh cyaan blame someone for trying the coaltion approach...

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by Assasin View Post
                        Bruce a look scapegoat. i don't believe it when government points to opposition as the problem, them must find ways around it.
                        Unuh reason wid sense nuh? There are bills that need a 2/3 majority vote .... Now yuh claim dem must find ways round it .... yuh want a gov't that believes the law is not a shackle?
                        "Jamaica's future reflects its past, having attained only one per cent annual growth over 30 years whilst neighbours have grown at five per cent." (Article)

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by Lazie View Post
                          Unuh reason wid sense nuh? There are bills that need a 2/3 majority vote .... Now yuh claim dem must find ways round it .... yuh want a gov't that believes the law is not a shackle?
                          Does the JLP crime bill proposed by Bruce require a 2/3 vote and if so why? Does it in someway alter the constitution like the vote on hanging? I don't know not trying to sarcastic. Please explain.

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                          • #14
                            When the pnp was in power i held them responsible, now Bruce in power i have to hold him responsible.

                            Didn't Bruce know it need 2/3 vote. how about having another concience vote like him having fi hanging? make all a them mp them stand up against fighting against the measures that they don't support?

                            If it work fi hanging then why not crime?
                            • Don't let negative things break you, instead let it be your strength, your reason for growth. Life is for living and I won't spend my life feeling cheated and downtrodden.

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by Rudi View Post
                              Does the JLP crime bill proposed by Bruce require a 2/3 vote and if so why? Does it in someway alter the constitution like the vote on hanging? I don't know not trying to sarcastic. Please explain.
                              Basically ... yes!

                              However, the prime minister insisted that the Government will go ahead with the six crime bills he has tabled, and will put them to the vote. But he admitted that two of the bills will need Opposition support due to their constitutional nature.
                              "We are going to put it to the vote and if the Opposition decides to withdraw their support, we will go ahead with those which we have the power to enact," he stated.
                              "Jamaica's future reflects its past, having attained only one per cent annual growth over 30 years whilst neighbours have grown at five per cent." (Article)

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