PNP - Poor people Need Portia

[Exile]

So because your preferred candidate lose, everybody stupid? What is/are the reason(s) behind Phillips loss??? Why was he rejected?
As long as Jamaica continue to look for this "Leader" to take them out of bondage, we will never be free. Wasn't Portia the worst thing for Jamaica back then?
Wasn't Bruce supposed to do this? Has he? Isn't crime and poverty still MAJOR problems in Jamaica DESPITE promises? Wasn't Jamaica supposed to 'turn the corner'?
Jamaica's politics is not about leadership anymore. It's about the 'boy's clubs', the 'insiders', yes no different from DC. Parties have been hijacked, used, abused and then left to suffer. It's all about the people. We will not rise until some major crisis comes again. Track & Field and football (and back in the day cricket) will only provide distractions from the suffering....we have become frontier country again...where anything goes.....Politicians are not the answer.

[Mosiah]

So because your preferred candidate lose, everybody stupid?

No, it's because they have left Portia as leader! Peter is not my "preferred candidate". I would simply prefer if Portia was not there.

What can Portia do for the people of Jamaica? WHAT?!?! Love them to death?!? That's exactly what she'll do! She talks about vision - what vision did she demonstrate when she was PM? What vision has she demonstrated for the PNP?

The PNP can hunker down for a long period in the wilderness, under Portia.

[Exile]

What is Peter's vision? What is Bruce's? Does ANYONE of them have a vison for Jamaica except being in power? Is there no one else there? The political landscape looks dark indeed.

[Karl]

That's the new meaning of the PNP.

I expect her to win, and I also expect the PNP to remain in the wilderness for the next 17 years.

Problem with too many of us is we think commonsense, ability to lead and the burning desire to do what is best for our people and actually doing same resides in whether or not we can perform well in a debate and or speak what they consider to be the "Queen's English". Need I say that is a nonsense position!

Porsha! Porsha! Porsha!

Aside:
Our men have taken us to where we are today! Our Women shall lead us on to great days!

[Mosiah]

At least the 2 you mentioned can articulate an opinion on something, can apply some thought and reasoning on issues. Portia cannot do even that! She only loves to pronounce how much she loves poor people. She now has poor people repeating the line while wallowing in squalor.

[Islandman]

Maybe the PNP will be in the wilderness for a while but if that gives Bruce the opportunity to make some difficult decisions without worrying that one or two MPS defecting will overturn the govt then that is not a bad thing.

I hope a few PNP MPs resign from the party and go independent as a result of this.

[Karl]

How Portia kept her chair

How Portia kept her chair
published: Sunday | September 21, 2008


Daraine Luton, Sunday Gleaner Reporter

THREE STRIKES and you are out. That equation was always clear to Portia Simpson Miller.

Had Dr Peter Phillips unseated her as president of the People's National Party (PNP), it would have been her third successive electoral defeat and possibly "good night 'Mama P'."

Simpson Miller, one of Jamaica's most loved politicians of all time, had promised to lead the PNP to a fifth consecutive term in government.
When she first took the reins as PNP president in March 2006, Simpson Miller had an enviable approval rating of 78 per cent.

But that political capital was lost after 18 months when she went to the people asking for her own mandate.

Jamaicans rejected her and gave the job of managing the country's affairs to Bruce Golding and his Jamaica Labour Party (JLP). The JLP secured 3,000 more votes than the PNP to win 32 of the 60 seats in the House of Representatives.

Disunity showing up
She then led the PNP into local-government elections in December. Again she lost. Disunity in the PNP was showing up and the party looked to be wobbling in opposition.

Unhappy with the state of affairs within the PNP, Phillips pledged to renew the movement. He offered himself for leader but Simpson Miller was convinced the people wanted her.

A Phillips challenge loomed. And 314 days after the Portia train was derailed, Phillips offered himself for leadership.

Simpson Miller's response was a master stroke. The day after Phillips announced his challenge, she responded, by way of the party's secretariat, to the challenge.

In that press release, Simpson Miller stopped short of saying that the last thing the PNP needed was a challenge.
"Team People's National Party, the team that I lead, is up to the task to meeting this impending challenge," Simpson Miller said while referring to the increasing cost of living affecting the country.

At that time, it appeared that Team PNP was the conscience of the party, but within days, it was exposed for what it was: Simpson Miller's campaign organisation.

Simpson Miller, whose perfor-mance against Golding in the 2007 election debates has been widely regarded as below par, did no harm to her bid to retain the presidency when she delivered a super speech on party renewal at the National Executive Council meeting at the University of the West Indies. Simpson Miller was now talking about the party's progressive agenda, effectively stealing Phillips' thunder.

To win the battle on the ground, Simpson Miller's Team PNP turned to former member of parliament and long-time friend Easton Douglas to head its campaign organisation.

How Portia kept her chair

[Nemesis]

Problem with too many of us is we think commonsense, ability to lead and the burning desire to do what is best for our people and actually doing same resides in whether or not we can perform well in a debate and or speak what they consider to be the "Queen's English". Need I say that is a nonsense position!

Porsha! Porsha! Porsha!

Aside:
Our men have taken us to where we are today! Our Women shall lead us on to great days!

The old tired excuses will not work anymore. Portia has proven to be a poor leader...one that carries grudges and has shown the inability to unite the party behind the basic party principles.

Then the fact she is intellectually weak, a poor debater, she cant ever be accused of being a policy wonk.....

If you want a hug ad kiss call Portia but if you want leadership and understanding of the issues ask for guys like Peter Phillips and Bruce Golding.

I vehemently reject Portia!!

[Mosiah]

Karl is talking nonsense. I was Portia's biggest fan. I don't care if she can't speak a lick of English. Her only ability was to lead the people she loves (and who strangely love her back) with some forward thinking ideas as to how to lift them out of poverty. What did she do when it was first suggested that the Inner City Housing Project might be in trouble? How did she try and save it, what were her alternatives? Maybe it's fitting that one of the unfinished buildings sits right on Spanish Town Road, a monument of her love for poor people.

What idea has she offered to curb the violence that poor people deal with every single day, either from their own, or from the state? As little as Bruce as done, at least he has done something!

Portia could have done both good and/or evil with her popularity as PM. She did nothing, but bask in her lover for poor people, hugging and kissing her way into their hearts.

Her constituency still remains the most wretched in the country, but she loves its residence, and they lover her back!

Sad!

Portia will implode right before our eyes. Watch! I, too, vehemently reject her as president of any political party!

[Exile]

You are being disingenuous at best...surely the woman has more than what you make out...there are many who are articulate and can argue many a point yet the people perish....the Jamaican poor are part of a larger problem borne out of ignorance and illiteracy and grown up on laziness and largesse...'barrel syndrome'....and Donmanship...until we as a people can return to mutual respect of our fellow-person, dis-own 'eat a food' economics and clean up our kleptocracy - we will be doomed....until every Jamaican has a buy-in to the Jamaicanism that we so aptly display when we are winning in the sports arena but do it year-round and not only for bragging rights...we will continue to be lost and scattered....picking up the crumbs from someon-else's brow...we need to return to the concepts of honesty and hard work, nation building rather than party building, nationalism rather than glorification of the rich and powerful, spritualism rather than empty religious rhetoric.....sustainable development rather than political expediency and kick-backs...we have a long road to travel indeed...

[Jawge]

Thank you bredda Exile:
Nanny P is symbolic of our core values of old. These
core values are called hard work, persistence and patience.
Some will hate because they like to delude themselves and think
they wre born in wealth, Nanny P reminds them too much of their parents and grand parents.
Nanny P was given no quarter; she had no family name or connections.
She had to use her will and mental fortitude in order to forge a
niche and eventually become PM for Ja. Nanny P is an example to
the populace of Ja; meaning if you set your mind to a task you can achieve it,
even if you weren't born in an elite family (or attended an elite school).
Nanny P is a leader and one with a vision of nation building for Ja.
Nanny had the vision to abstain her vote becuase she saw that our infrastructre was poor and we lacking in emergency response equipment. As a leader she stood alone to abstain in what she saw that was right. In the mean time the party intellectuals called her a fool because their interest is limited to that party needs and not those of the
people of Ja.
The people has spoken Via the delegates.

[Jawge]

Please give examples of these
"complex things". Thanks in advance.

[Westman]

Complex for her. These things may or not be complex for a cave man.

Whappen boss? How the big apple?

[Karl]

The old tired excuses will not work anymore. Portia has proven to be a poor leader...one that carries grudges and has shown the inability to unite the party behind the basic party principles.

Then the fact she is intellectually weak, a poor debater, she cant ever be accused of being a policy wonk.....

If you want a hug ad kiss call Portia but if you want leadership and understanding of the issues ask for guys like Peter Phillips and Bruce Golding.

I vehemently reject Portia!!

Merely repeating that put out by those who can't think for themselves is non-productive!

Sure Portia is not a good debater...but the matter of being not able to grapple with problems put infront of her has been proven false by her record of service at the many Ministries she has headed.

[Baddaz]

You are being disingenuous at best...surely the woman has more than what you make out...there are many who are articulate and can argue many a point yet the people perish....the Jamaican poor are part of a larger problem borne out of ignorance and illiteracy and grown up on laziness and largesse...'barrel syndrome'....and Donmanship...until we as a people can return to mutual respect of our fellow-person, dis-own 'eat a food' economics and clean up our kleptocracy - we will be doomed....until every Jamaican has a buy-in to the Jamaicanism that we so aptly display when we are winning in the sports arena but do it year-round and not only for bragging rights...we will continue to be lost and scattered....picking up the crumbs from someon-else's brow...we need to return to the concepts of honesty and hard work, nation building rather than party building, nationalism rather than glorification of the rich and powerful, spritualism rather than empty religious rhetoric.....sustainable development rather than political expediency and kick-backs...we have a long road to travel indeed...

exile, if you think portia can be the catalyst for all that you have expressed i think you are on the wrong track...

peter phillips is the person that has the most potential to put jamaica on the right track...

the pnp under the leadership of portia simpson will forever be in the opposition...

the jamaican people will NEVER vote for portia simpson as the prime minister... i just don't see it happening...