Carlton Grant (Spragga Son) Murder Witness Statement

[Lazie]

The state says there was a shootout and that's all I can go by. Now given the scenario what are your thoughts on the subject?

Yuh realize that many times when the police say shootout ... dem mean police shooting. How many guns were found at the scene? Gamma ... rope in!

[Mosiah]

There are numerous media accounts and court records which seriously throw some doubt on that shootout story.

[Gamma]

nothing to add...yuh a waste mi time.

[Bricktop]

How many guns were found at the crime scene?

At least one but hey it was probably planted

[Gamma]

yuh want the number now? or you would just argue amongst us who were not there?

[Lazie]

At least one but hey it was probably planted

hehehehe ... whey yuh when deh? What did Danhi Williams affi duh wid the case? Probably ... I guess you were one of those that think the cow did probaby jump over the moon.

"A policeman testified yesterday that even as he searched one of the victims of the Crawle killings and had found nothing that could bring harm to him or his colleagues, the man was shot dead"

Knock yuhself out!

[Bricktop]

Like this one from a cop terstifying against Adams?

The witness said he knew that Danhai Williams (east Kingston businessman) and a man called 'Softie' worked at the office where they went on Homestead Road. He said when they went to the building he remained outside, but Corporal Tingling and Sergeant Ballen went inside. Constable Brown testified that it was close to 6:00 p.m. when he saw a short dark man with metal on his teeth come out and hand Tingling something which appeared to be a firearm.

He said Tingling put it in a yellow paper bag after which they all went to Kraal. He said on the way to Kraal, Tingling got out of the car on two occasions and fired shots from the firearm and collected the spent shells.
When they reached Kraal, he saw SSP Adams and they went into a room where he saw the body of a woman and a rifle lying on the floor.

Corporal Tingling gave SSP Adams the yellow paper bag. SSP Adams, in referring to the rifle on the floor, said "See the gun deh weh de dutty boy dem a fire." SSP Adams went to a room where there was the body of a man. SSP Adams bent down, took the firearm from the bag and placed it on the floor. He (Adams) then picked out the spent shells and threw them on the floor.

So where did the rifle come from?

[Lazie]

nothing to add...yuh a waste mi time.

umm interesting!

[Bricktop]

The witness said he knew that Danhai Williams (east Kingston businessman) and a man called 'Softie' worked at the office where they went on Homestead Road. He said when they went to the building he remained outside, but Corporal Tingling and Sergeant Ballen went inside. Constable Brown testified that it was close to 6:00 p.m. when he saw a short dark man with metal on his teeth come out and hand Tingling something which appeared to be a firearm.

He said Tingling put it in a yellow paper bag after which they all went to Kraal. He said on the way to Kraal, Tingling got out of the car on two occasions and fired shots from the firearm and collected the spent shells.
When they reached Kraal, he saw SSP Adams and they went into a room where he saw the body of a woman and a rifle lying on the floor. Corporal Tingling gave SSP Adams the yellow paper bag. SSP Adams, in referring to the rifle on the floor, said "See the gun deh weh de dutty boy dem a fire."
SSP Adams went to a room where there was the body of a man. SSP Adams bent down, took the firearm from the bag and placed it on the floor. He (Adams) then picked out the spent shells and threw them on the floor.

Yuh figget bout di rifle?

[Gamma]

leff it.....lazie would rather play dandy shandy.....than have factual information.

[Lazie]

Yuh figget bout di rifle?

Is Adams superman then? How could he walk the little girl to safety then the shooting started when he went back into the house? It is clear they had control of the scene.

Rifle? If they did find a rifle, whats the need to plant a taurus?

[Lazie]

leff it.....lazie would rather play dandy shandy.....than have factual information.

Yuh say yuh have information ... let it be known. I'm basing my argument off the testimony given during the trial.

[Gamma]

i'm saying that i can give you access to the source of my information...but as i said...mi done!

btw that same trial...what was the outcome?

[Bricktop]

Rifle? If they did find a rifle, whats the need to plant a taurus?

So the policeman who testified against Adams is a liar? He lied about the rifle but was telling the truth about Adams planting the Taurus?

[Mosiah]

So, people don't lie sometimes and tell truths other times?