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    Government may soon back troubled mortgage giants
    By ALAN ZIBEL, AP Business Writer 8 minutes ago

    WASHINGTON - The government is expected to take over Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac as soon as this weekend in a monumental move designed to protect the mortgage market from the failure of the two companies, which together hold or guarantee half of the nation's mortgage debt, a person briefed on the matter said Friday night.

    Some of the details of the intervention, which could cost taxpayers billions, were not yet available, but are expected to include the departure of Fannie Mae CEO Daniel Mudd and Freddie Mac CEO Richard Syron, according to the source, who asked not to be named because the plan was yet to be announced.

    Federal Reserve Chairman Ben Bernanke, Treasury Secretary Henry Paulson and James Lockhart, the companies' chief regulator, met Friday afternoon with the top executives from the mortgage companies and informed them of the government's plan to put the troubled companies into a conservatorship.

    The news, first reported on The Wall Street Journal's Web site, came after stock markets closed. In after-hours trading Fannie Mae's shares plunged $1.54, or 22 percent, to $5.50. Freddie Mac's shares fell $1.06, or almost 21 percent, to $4.04. Common stock in the companies will be worth little to nothing after the government's actions.

    The news also followed a report Friday by the Mortgage Bankers Association that more than 4 million American homeowners with a mortgage, a record 9 percent, were either behind on their payments or in foreclosure at the end of June.

    That confirmed what investors saw in Fannie and Freddie's recent financial results: trouble in the mortgage market has shifted to homeowners who had solid credit but took out exotic loans with little or no proof of their income and assets.

    Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac lost a combined $3.1 billion between April and June. Half of their credit losses came from these types of risky loans with ballooning monthly payments.

    While both companies said they had enough resources to withstand the losses, many investors believe their financial cushions could wither away as defaults and foreclosures mount.

    Many in Washington and on Wall Street hadn't expected Paulson to intervene unless the companies had trouble issuing debt to fund their operations.

    This summer, Congress passed a plan to provide unlimited government loans to Fannie and Freddie and to purchase stock in the two companies if needed.

    Critics say the open-ended nature of the rescue package could expose taxpayers to billions of dollars of potential losses.
    Supporters, however, argue the Bush administration had little choice but to support Fannie and Freddie, which together hold or guarantee $5 trillion in mortgages — almost half the nation's total.
    Representatives of Fannie and Freddie declined to comment on the government assistance plan.

    Treasury spokeswoman Brookly McLaughlin said officials "have been in regular communications" with Fannie and Freddie, but refused to comment saying, "We are not going to comment on rumors."

    Concern has been growing that a government rescue of Fannie and Freddie could not only wipe out common stockholders, but also be costly for scores of investment, banking and insurance companies that hold billions of dollars in their preferred shares.

    Paulson has been in contact in recent weeks with foreign governments that hold billions of dollars of Fannie and Freddie debt to reassure them that the United States recognizes the importance of the two companies.
    The two companies had nearly $36 billion in preferred shares outstanding as of June 30, according to filings with the Securities and Exchange Commission.

    Mudd, the son of TV anchor Roger Mudd, was elevated to Fannie Mae's top post in December 2004 when chief executive Franklin Raines and chief financial officer Timothy Howard were swept out of office in an accounting scandal. Syron was named Freddie Mac's CEO in 2003, replacing former chief Gregory Parseghian, who was ousted in after being implicated in accounting irregularities.

    He formerly was executive chairman of Thermo Electron Corp., a Waltham, Mass.-based maker of scientific equipment, served head of the American Stock Exchange and was president of the Federal Reserve Bank of Boston in the early 1990s.

    Fannie Mae was created by the government in 1938, and was turned into a shareholder-owned company 30 years later. Freddie Mac was established in 1970 to provide competition for Fannie.

    A government takeover could cost taxpayers up to $25 billion, according to the Congressional Budget Office. But the epic decision highlights the size of the threats facing the housing market and the economy. On Friday, Nevada regulators shut down Silver State Bank, the 11th failure this year of a federally insured bank. And earlier this year, the government orchestrated the takeover of investment bank Bear Stearns by JP Morgan Chase.
    Last edited by Tilla; September 7, 2008, 02:32 PM.
    The same type of thinking that created a problem cannot be used to solve the problem.

  • #2
    Obama and Mccain on Fannie and Freddie!

    Obama, McCain Back Action to Rescue Freddie, Fannie (Update1)

    By Kim Chipman and Edwin Chen

    Sept. 6 (Bloomberg)

    -- Presidential candidates Barack Obama and John McCain gave their support for federal action to rescue Freddie Mac and Fannie Mae while saying steps must be taken to ensure the mortgage giants don't keep passing losses off to taxpayers.

    ``It looks like the Bush administration is going to intervene with a bailout that could end up costing taxpayers billions of dollars,'' Obama, the Democratic nominee, said today while campaigning in Terre Haute, Indiana. ``These entities are so big and they are so tied into the housing market that it's probably true that we have to take steps to make sure that they don't just collapse.''

    McCain said the Treasury Department's plan for a conservatorship for the loan agencies ``has to be done.''

    ``We've got to keep people in their homes. There's got to be restructuring, there's got to be reorganization, and there's got to be some confidence that we've stopped this downward spiral,'' McCain said in a recorded interview for CBS's ``Face to Nation'' program. CBS released excerpts of the interview, to be broadcast tomorrow morning.

    Treasury Secretary Henry Paulson is preparing to announce plans to bring Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac under government control, seeking to halt the crisis of confidence in the companies that make up almost half the U.S. mortgage market.

    Awaiting Details
    At a news conference, Obama said he would wait to see the details of Paulson's full proposal before passing judgment. He also repeated his call for lawmakers to pass a second economic stimulus package, including assistance to state governments to help make up for losses of tax revenue.

    Obama supported a move by Congress to give the Bush administration authority to inject capital into the two government-sponsored mortgage-finance companies. Arizona Senator McCain has decried using taxpayer funds to shore up Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac, though, like Obama, he says they can't be allowed to fail.

    Obama, a senator from Illinois, said that companies can't be permitted to reap profits during boom times and then look to the federal government for help when the market goes awry.

    ``You notice a lot of these folks they don't like government when they are making money,'' Obama said at his campaign event. ``But as soon as they start losing money they think the government is just swell. We are going to change that attitude.''

    Briefing by Paulson
    Obama, 47, said he had a ``lengthy conversation last night'' with Paulson and today spoke with economic advisers Paul Volcker, a former chairman of the Federal Reserve, and Larry Summers, a former Treasury secretary.
    He said Paulson told him the Treasury plan falls ``within the parameters'' of what Congress authorized and that no additional legislation would be needed.

    McCain, 72, said in the CBS interview that he also spoke with Paulson, who assured him that when the housing market picks back up ``taxpayers are going to be the first to be paid off.''

    Both candidates were critical of the management and operation of Fannie and Freddie.

    McCain called the situation ``an example of cronyism, special interest, lobbyists, a quasi-governmental organization where the executives were making hundreds of, some billion dollars, a year while things were going downhill.''

    At his news conference, Obama said the mortgage crisis is a ``challenging situation that's been festering for a long time,'' and there is ``no doubt that what was taking place in Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac was, in many instances, irresponsible.''

    Obama, 47, said his benchmarks for evaluating the government intervention were that they must protect taxpayers and stabilize the mortgage market, they shouldn't protect investors who've profited from the risks taken by Fannie and Freddie and that they must ``clarify'' government housing policy to make sure the situation doesn't happen again.

    Fannie's market capitalization is now $7.6 billion, down from $38.9 billion at the end of last year. Freddie's has fallen to $3.3 billion, from $22 billion over the same period.

    Fannie and Freddie were created by Congress to boost home ownership and profit by holding mortgages and mortgage bonds as investments and by charging a fee to guarantee and package loans as securities.

    To contact the reporter on this story: Kim Chipman in Terre Haute, Indiana at kchipman@bloomberg.net; Edwin Chen in Colorado Springs, Colorado, at 1844 or echen32@bloomberg.net
    Last Updated: September 6, 2008 20:03 EDT
    "Never doubt that a small group of thoughtful, committed citizens can change the world. Indeed, it is the only thing that ever has."

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    • #3
      Good thing change is coming to Washington with McCain and the Republicans! Heh heh.
      "‎It is easier to build strong children than to repair broken men" - Frederick Douglass

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      • #4
        Originally posted by Islandman View Post
        Good thing change is coming to Washington with McCain and the Republicans! Heh heh.
        Isn't it?
        "Never doubt that a small group of thoughtful, committed citizens can change the world. Indeed, it is the only thing that ever has."

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        • #5
          that the us economy is in trouble is a newsflash?

          Infidelity does not consist in believing, or in disbelieving; it consists in professing to believe what he does not believe. Thomas Paine

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          • #6
            vote mccain karl....

            Infidelity does not consist in believing, or in disbelieving; it consists in professing to believe what he does not believe. Thomas Paine

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            • #7
              As I said a month or so ago the World economy can't afford for those institutions to collapse. The Asians start buying less of the debt that they issue and the treasury is forced to restore confidence in the markets and make their commitments to the companies explicit.

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              • #8
                I remember the discussion.

                So where do you think the US economy goes from here? While I can see this providing short to medium term confidence, the US treasury seems to me to be heading into a deep dark hole. If there is a prolonged downturn it will get difficult for them to keep all thier commitments.

                Meanwhile McCain is promising to make the Bush tax cuts permanent, and bomb, bomb, bomb Iran. He is looking better and better in the polls too, up by about 4 points in the latest USA Today/Gallup.
                "‎It is easier to build strong children than to repair broken men" - Frederick Douglass

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