Polls now likely?

[Mosiah]

You should be ashamed that you are not prepared to observe the law. So what if it was being broken for decades?

Course change!

[Mosiah]

Can you follow the thread, or do you want your own personal answers?

[Muadib]

If the PNP are interested in respecting the constitution, why did they not raise the issue before they did ?

3-Card routine.

Your problem is you don't think enough.

Dumbo !

[Mosiah]

Sorry! Course change even when you nuh want it fi change!

[Willi]

No he was NOT!

[Willi]

The plan was in motion BEFORE the elections.

Why you think Hayles rush thru his renunciation and Dabdoub was sending out pamphlets?

It mattters not if the JLP would have done it. How would that make it any less hypocritical and less disrespectful of the law?

As for as I am concerned the PNP was an accessory BEFORE the fact!

[Willi]

Colombia Pres is a dual French natrional. Vaclev H of Czech republic is a US citizen, as was the Polish Prez. The GG of Canada has dual citizenship. Tons of countries allow their top dogs to have dual citizenship.

However, I see nothing wrong with excluding them if you have worries of apparent conflicts of interest (COI).

Here is my problem with the current regs in Jam. It does not exclude CWealth citizens...HOWEVER the definition of Commonwealth has CHANGED since the 1960s. Back then what was meant is that citizens of countries that were former British subjects that swore loyalty to the same Queen, HAD no C.O.I.

Well, much has changed since then, as this sort of reciprocity has gone away (or never existed in the case of the Bahamas and maybe Canada, though it still exists in England). Furthermore, the status of many CW countries have changed. TnT is now a Republic and theoretically their Prez is a Foreign Power! Mozambique, which was never a Brit. colony, does not hafve English as an official language and never swore allegience to the Queen is now a member of the Commonwealth and technically their citizens can become MPs in Jamaica after 1 year of residence!!

Finally, given the visa exclusion situation in most cases, it is more relevant to include ONLY Caricom States in the exemption, not CW ones! The Constitution DOES need changing, even if we decide to maintain exclusions to most dual nationals!!!

[Willi]

Sorry Mo, you out of line here.

The man made a perfectly cogent argument and you run from it.

The PNP perverted the course of the law. They played games when they had a chance to uphoild the law they swore to protect, a law they broke several times before and may be guilty of this time as well.

[Willi]

It is more shameful to stand by and watch while it is being broken and stay silent, hoping for an advantage.

I cant understand yyour position on this.

It was despicable.

[Willi]

No they could not.

The plan would have to have been devised BEFORE election.

It takes investigation and preparations. Look at Dabdoub!

[Mosiah]

As for as I am concerned the PNP was an accessory BEFORE the fact!

How so?

[Mosiah]

Without telling the details of their dual citizenship, you are being a little disingenuous.

In any case, are they violating their constitution? If they are not, then you have no point! Law breakers cannot be lawmakers (Daryl 3:16).

"Tons of countries allow their top dogs to have dual citizenship." Tons?! What does that mean? Most countries do not allow their top dog to have dual citizenship!

Alberto Fujimori, former president of Peru, also had dual citizenship, which allowed him to run off to Japan when he was in trouble. How great was that?!? He is the perfect reason why dual citizenship for politicians of his stature makes no sense!

I agree with you as it relates to the Commonwealth. That needs to be changed.

[Willi]

Why you arguning with me when in essence we agree. I am telling you to tidy up your argument! Reread what I said.

[Willi]

Dabdoub was circulating pamphlets BEFORE Nomination day (That is why his case was secure). Hayles rush his renunciation a week or 2 before Nomination.

The whole issue came to light just after Nom Day when PNP thought they had the JL{P trapped and this was their insurance policy.

It is a despicable, cynical and desperate ploy to steer election results their way. They dont give a DAMN about constition and the sanctity of the clause. They have violated it in the past regularly, as have the JLP. this is documented fact that we are ALL aware of.

If they cared about the Consitution, they would have souught to prevent the violation, rather than cynically try to profit from it.

If you are a banker you see people planning to rob a competitor bank and sit quiet in the hope of gaining a commercial advantage....or if you are a Banker seeing a big client operating in a laundering business but keep quiet so as to keep the big account...what are YOU?

[Mosiah]

I can't agree here, Willi. The offenders knew about their status and did nothing to correct it even while they were warned, except Hayles. Dabdoub could not act until he saw who really turned out to be nominated.