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    Down, but not out
    HEART TO HEARTBetty Ann Blaine
    Tuesday, April 29, 2008


    Dear Reader,
    I felt it was important to stand in solidarity with the men and women whose lives have been destroyed as a result of the financial meltdown of the 90s and the resultant "Finsac'isation" of a large percentage of the entrepreneurial class of our country. After all, I thought to myself, "injustice anywhere is injustice everywhere" and none of us knows when our time will come. As a scholar of South African history, it dawned on me that we here in Jamaica stoutly supported the anti-apartheid struggle in that country, even when most of us had never set eyes on a native South African. What more for our own? I thought, as I made my way into the auditorium for the meeting of Finsac'd Entrepreneurs last Saturday.

    As I walked into the room, what struck me immediately about the group was the "middle-agedness" of its members. Most of the men are grey-haired. At least one of them that I know is close to 80 years old. The women affected, some single, others in debt along with their husbands, all appeared to be in their late 50s or early 60s. One older gentleman cried throughout the presentation, as speaker after speaker told their stories of destruction at the hands of Finsac.

    I listened in disbelief - sometimes in shock, at the details of what I call an "era of human desolation". One gentleman who walked up to the microphone was on crutches, another unable to tell his own story because he had suffered a heart attack and couldn't risk becoming anxious or excited. Later, I would spend close to an hour listening to one gentleman as he related his ordeal.

    "It started in 1980 when myself and four others, all professionals, decided to buy a 500-acre farm in Portland. It was a beautiful property bounded on one side by the Rio Grande. The main activity would be fish farming, but we also grew cash crops, coconuts, and we had been successful in securing a mining licence to mine sand, gravel and limestone. At the height of production, we employed 150 workers, although at intervals, that number rose to almost 200 male and female labourers.

    "The first loan we secured of $1.6 million was in l986 to facilitate the cultivation of winter vegetables at an interest rate of 9 per cent. Things progressed well after that, and it was clear to us that the farm in no time would become a viable and prosperous entity.

    "Regrettably, Hurricane Gilbert hit us in l988 and the property was severely damaged. As a result, we were forced to borrow an additional $1.2 million. Like the first one, this one too was a specific agricultural loan at an interest rate of 12 per cent, and with a monthly payment of $66,000. As the farm struggled to get back on to its feet, we had difficulty repaying the loan on time, and there were instances when the payments would be made several days after the due date.

    "By l990, the interest rate on our overdraft facility almost trebled. By the end of that year, our debt had moved from $2.8 million to $5 million, even while we were making our monthly payments of $66,000. Two years later, the interest rate moved to 60 per cent, and we now owed the bank $7 million. As the interest rate on the overdraft facility, coupled with the penalties kept moving upwards, our monthly payment moved from $66,000 to $660,000, a ten-fold increase, and an amount almost equivalent to our gross earnings. Of course, we couldn't meet the payments and the bank in no time issued a demand letter forcing us to put the farm up for sale.

    "At the time we advertised the farm for sale, it was valued at $30 million. The only substantive offer at the time came from a gentleman who wasn't interested in farming but in the mining potential of the farm. With our backs against the wall, we were forced to sell him the property for $11 million. After paying the government its share in taxes, we turned over every cent of the remaining $10 million to the bank, thinking that the amount would cover all the debt. It didn't. We were told that we owed an additional $16 million."

    "The train of destruction then began moving with speed and determination, as the bank and then Finsac zeroed in on all my assets. I had signed over any "free and floating assets", so they could basically take everything I owned, and they did.

    I had several vehicles, including one which I had given to my 80-year old father and a Mercedes Benz which was free and clear, which was a gift to my wife for our wedding anniversary. I will never forget what happened on that Sunday morning when they came for her car. Her piercing scream still resonates in my ears and in my soul to this day, as she held on to the door post of the house and wept as they took the vehicle away. By the time they stripped me of everything, my wife had been so mortally wounded, that she opted to leave the marriage taking our children with her, never to return.

    "Everything I had was taken away, including my spirit and my soul. I lost so much weight that it was rumoured that I had AIDS. I spent months at a time locked away in a room by myself. There were times when I didn't even bathe. I walked around with holes in the bottom of my shoes and my pants were so worn out that you could see my brief through them. I eventually moved back in with my parents in whose house I lived for seven years. I almost lost my mind, and at one point actively considered murder. I actually pictured myself on death row."

    "So what now?" I asked. "I don't know exactly how much I owe," the gentleman replied. "It must be approximately $100 million by now. But I am going to fight back. Thanks be to God for His grace and mercy. I am alive, and my spirit and soul have been revived."
    With love,
    bab2609@yahoo.com
    Last edited by Karl; April 30, 2008, 04:08 PM.
    • Don't let negative things break you, instead let it be your strength, your reason for growth. Life is for living and I won't spend my life feeling cheated and downtrodden.

  • #2
    Originally posted by Assasin View Post
    Down, but not out
    HEART TO HEARTBetty Ann Blaine
    Tuesday, April 29, 2008


    Dear Reader,
    I felt it was important to stand in solidarity with the men and women whose lives have been destroyed as a result of the financial meltdown of the 90s and the resultant "Finsac'isation" of a large percentage of the entrepreneurial class of our country. After all, I thought to myself, "injustice anywhere is injustice everywhere" and none of us knows when our time will come. As a scholar of South African history, it dawned on me that we here in Jamaica stoutly supported the anti-apartheid struggle in that country, even when most of us had never set eyes on a native South African. What more for our own? I thought, as I made my way into the auditorium for the meeting of Finsac'd Entrepreneurs last Saturday.

    As I walked into the room, what struck me immediately about the group was the "middle-agedness" of its members. Most of the men are grey-haired. At least one of them that I know is close to 80 years old. The women affected, some single, others in debt along with their husbands, all appeared to be in their late 50s or early 60s. One older gentleman cried throughout the presentation, as speaker after speaker told their stories of destruction at the hands of Finsac.

    I listened in disbelief - sometimes in shock, at the details of what I call an "era of human desolation". One gentleman who walked up to the microphone was on crutches, another unable to tell his own story because he had suffered a heart attack and couldn't risk becoming anxious or excited. Later, I would spend close to an hour listening to one gentleman as he related his ordeal.

    "It started in 1980 when myself and four others, all professionals, decided to buy a 500-acre farm in Portland. It was a beautiful property bounded on one side by the Rio Grande. The main activity would be fish farming, but we also grew cash crops, coconuts, and we had been successful in securing a mining licence to mine sand, gravel and limestone. At the height of production, we employed 150 workers, although at intervals, that number rose to almost 200 male and female labourers.
    Here we go? ---->---->----->---->

    "The first loan we secured of $1.6 million was in l986 to facilitate the cultivation of winter vegetables at an interest rate of 9 per cent. Things progressed well after that, and it was clear to us that the farm in no time would become a viable and prosperous entity.
    OK!

    "Regrettably, Hurricane Gilbert hit us in l988 and the property was severely damaged. As a result, we were forced to borrow an additional $1.2 million. Like the first one, this one too was a specific agricultural loan at an interest rate of 12 per cent, and with a monthly payment of $66,000. As the farm struggled to get back on to its feet, we had difficulty repaying the loan on time, and there were instances when the payments would be made several days after the due date.
    Note - No mention of what monthly payments were on the 1st loan!

    "By l990, the interest rate on our overdraft facility almost trebled.
    No mention of the limit on this facility and or amounts borrowed/funds carried monthly here or the rate of interest applied here?

    By the end of that year, our debt had moved from $2.8 million to $5 million, even while we were making our monthly payments of $66,000.


    So what of the servicing on the first loan? ...and the servicing on the overdraft?

    Two years later, the interest rate moved to 60 per cent, and we now owed the bank $7 million. As the interest rate on the overdraft facility, coupled with the penalties kept moving upwards, our monthly payment moved from $66,000 to $660,000, a ten-fold increase, and an amount almost equivalent to our gross earnings. Of course, we couldn't meet the payments and the bank in no time issued a demand letter forcing us to put the farm up for sale.
    Why were the overdrafts not moved to fixed rate loans as he went along? Stupid? ...or lazy/mentally lazy or what?


    "At the time we advertised the farm for sale, it was valued at $30 million. The only substantive offer at the time came from a gentleman who wasn't interested in farming but in the mining potential of the farm. With our backs against the wall, we were forced to sell him the property for $11 million. After paying the government its share in taxes, we turned over every cent of the remaining $10 million to the bank, thinking that the amount would cover all the debt. It didn't. We were told that we owed an additional $16 million."

    "The train of destruction then began moving with speed and determination, as the bank and then Finsac zeroed in on all my assets. I had signed over any "free and floating assets", so they could basically take everything I owned, and they did.
    The train of destruction...???? Who put that train in motion?

    I had several vehicles, including one which I had given to my 80-year old father and a Mercedes Benz which was free and clear, which was a gift to my wife for our wedding anniversary. I will never forget what happened on that Sunday morning when they came for her car. Her piercing scream still resonates in my ears and in my soul to this day, as she held on to the door post of the house and wept as they took the vehicle away. By the time they stripped me of everything, my wife had been so mortally wounded, that she opted to leave the marriage taking our children with her, never to return.

    "Everything I had was taken away, including my spirit and my soul. I lost so much weight that it was rumoured that I had AIDS. I spent months at a time locked away in a room by myself. There were times when I didn't even bathe. I walked around with holes in the bottom of my shoes and my pants were so worn out that you could see my brief through them. I eventually moved back in with my parents in whose house I lived for seven years. I almost lost my mind, and at one point actively considered murder. I actually pictured myself on death row."

    "So what now?" I asked. "I don't know exactly how much I owe," the gentleman replied. "It must be approximately $100 million by now. But I am going to fight back. Thanks be to God for His grace and mercy. I am alive, and my spirit and soul have been revived."
    With love,
    bab2609@yahoo.com
    Clearly the wife was not who you thought she was! There is a for richer or poor...or some such thing. She may have been with the for richer part????


    ...but back to 'the money part'?
    A dem incomplete story dem yah mi caan tek! Wah can reasonable people tink...wen yuh ave suh much gap dem?
    "Never doubt that a small group of thoughtful, committed citizens can change the world. Indeed, it is the only thing that ever has."

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    • #3
      In what country is people paying 60% interest rate?
      That is criminal? Instead of the man getting some help to put back his farm on the ground after hurricane the rate became three times higher?

      Karl what country you live in? You can't charge NOBODY in America 60% interest on a loan. If you don't see nothing wrong I wish you luck mi friend.
      • Don't let negative things break you, instead let it be your strength, your reason for growth. Life is for living and I won't spend my life feeling cheated and downtrodden.

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      • #4
        Originally posted by Assasin View Post
        In what country is people paying 60% interest rate?
        That is criminal? Instead of the man getting some help to put back his farm on the ground after hurricane the rate became three times higher?

        Karl what country you live in? You can't charge NOBODY in America 60% interest on a loan. If you don't see nothing wrong I wish you luck mi friend.
        I suppose you have read the same letter I have read...and I would hope you also saw the critical omissions? Lying by omission?

        I think the letter LIES by not telling whole truth! That 60% interest rate is linked to LIES on the sums borrowed!

        You tell me if that claim of a 60% interest rate charge is TRUTH? ...and do not forget to tell on what you base your answer or answers?
        Thanks!
        "Never doubt that a small group of thoughtful, committed citizens can change the world. Indeed, it is the only thing that ever has."

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        • #5
          What critical omission?

          How can you prove that the man is lying???

          The burden of proof is on the owner's side. FINSAC nor Omar Davis has ever denied the interest rate and inflating of the intial sum borrowed.

          The proof is in the pudding
          • Don't let negative things break you, instead let it be your strength, your reason for growth. Life is for living and I won't spend my life feeling cheated and downtrodden.

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          • #6
            Omar set the rate? Just asking! I don't know!


            BLACK LIVES MATTER

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            • #7
              Originally posted by Assasin View Post
              What critical omission?

              How can you prove that the man is lying???

              The burden of proof is on the owner's side. FINSAC nor Omar Davis has ever denied the interest rate and inflating of the intial sum borrowed.

              The proof is in the pudding
              Jeezaaassss, Sass?
              Yuh nuh si seh dem talk bout 3 loan fa-ci-li-ty dem?
              1 @ 9%; 1@ 12%...an nedda wan nuh ave nuh starting interest rate...or balance?

              Tell me sin-ting? - Yuh tek ova-draft an hit a climb innah a period of time weh interest rate a climb...yuh nuh wen hit reach a critical 'loan balance'/ova-draft balance...move nuff a di loan tuh fix rate at the prevailing rate?

              Iffen di prevailing rate move tuh seh 15% fus -an yuh fix $500,000.00....dat nuh mek sense? Dat nuh betta dan si-dun pan a floating rate till hit reach 20%?

              ...an iffen aftah time yuh ave wan $500,000.00 more as ova draft...an di prevailing fixed rate a now 20%...yuh nuh move dat deh tuh fixed rate...before hit float tuh 29%? ...an suh hon?

              Sass LIE innah dis-yah sin-ting?
              "Never doubt that a small group of thoughtful, committed citizens can change the world. Indeed, it is the only thing that ever has."

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              • #8
                All that was needed is a govt policy saying you can't exceed a certain rate, and I assume Omar was part of the government.
                • Don't let negative things break you, instead let it be your strength, your reason for growth. Life is for living and I won't spend my life feeling cheated and downtrodden.

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                • #9
                  how yu a go get fix rate when you credit shot because of bad loan?

                  talk like you have some sense nuh man. At the rate the intterest rate was going up you can see why people put their hand up in the air because they were simple stuck with a loan and no way out.

                  How many people you think currently a get loan fi save them mortgage NOW even at 6%, you think a want them nuh want it?
                  • Don't let negative things break you, instead let it be your strength, your reason for growth. Life is for living and I won't spend my life feeling cheated and downtrodden.

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                  • #10
                    also government policies dictate how the rate move.
                    • Don't let negative things break you, instead let it be your strength, your reason for growth. Life is for living and I won't spend my life feeling cheated and downtrodden.

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by Assasin View Post
                      how yu a go get fix rate when you credit shot because of bad loan?

                      talk like you have some sense nuh man. At the rate the intterest rate was going up you can see why people put their hand up in the air because they were simple stuck with a loan and no way out.

                      How many people you think currently a get loan fi save them mortgage NOW even at 6%, you think a want them nuh want it?
                      Was the credit shot when he was servicing the loan...before the higher rate mentioned (wah im did seh 66%?) kicked in?

                      Ofcourse not! ...unless there is a unspoken "he never serviced the over-draft"?
                      ...and if this latter is true - he was bankrupt long before a demand for payment was sent but he just never knew it!
                      "Never doubt that a small group of thoughtful, committed citizens can change the world. Indeed, it is the only thing that ever has."

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                      • #12
                        There is no way a man should borrow 1million and in ten years it turn inna 100 million whether him bancrupt or not. How did the bank lend a bancrupt man money?

                        I thought at some stage the bank though he had a viable business since most banks don't lend small business money without showing a profit unless a lot of credentials are involved.
                        • Don't let negative things break you, instead let it be your strength, your reason for growth. Life is for living and I won't spend my life feeling cheated and downtrodden.

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                        • #13
                          Are you an idiot ?

                          You are taking a rather bizarre stance.. people who have options for refinancing sit back and watch their lives ruined ?

                          You must be a flipping idiot... what worse you are being interestingly nonchalant about a devastating situation that affected Jamaicans...

                          I wonder why....

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