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    Obama Gets Encouragement and Warning From Wilder
    Heidi Przybyla 1 hour, 14 minutes ago


    April 24 (Bloomberg) -- Doug Wilder, the nation's first elected black governor, has both encouragement and a warning for Illinois Senator Barack Obama.

    The encouragement is that Obama is approaching the race issue the right way, and the nation is ready to elect a black president. The warning is that it may not be as ready as polls suggest.

    ``Let's not kid ourselves again, the issue of race will not disappear; but I don't think it will predominate,'' the former Virginia governor said in an interview at his office in Richmond, where he is now mayor. At the same time, he said, even if Obama is the nominee and heads into the fall with an apparent lead, the election ``will be closer than any polls will suggest.''

    Wilder, 77, is an authority in the matter. In 1989, he won the Democratic gubernatorial nomination in the overwhelmingly white onetime cradle of the Confederacy. Polls taken just before Election Day had put him ahead of his Republican competitor by as much as 10 percentage points; he won by less than half a percentage point.

    Wilder said he believes Obama has done a good job so far in blunting the race issue. ``Obama, by not running as an African- American, has been able to show that race is coincidental to his being,'' rather than the centerpiece of his campaign, he said.

    The message Obama, 46, sends to voters is ```I'm not being dominated by any groups,''' Wilder said. ``That includes African- Americans.''
    `Ingrained Difficulty'

    Wilder said he isn't surprised that Obama has run behind New York Senator Hillary Clinton among white voters in some states. Obama has faced more ``ingrained difficulty'' as a black candidate than Clinton has as a woman, Wilder said.

    Bias against Clinton, 60, may have more to do with specific incidents that have reinforced stereotypes, he said. ``Hillary's reactions to things conjure up images that are not necessarily the healthiest in terms of hissy fits or reactions because of emotions, like the crying and the weeping and then forgetting somewhat that she did that,'' he said.

    In Pennsylvania's April 22 Democratic primary, Obama lost by 10 points to Clinton, as white Democrats voted for her by a 65- to-35 percent margin. In exit polls, 19 percent of Pennsylvania Democratic voters said race was important in making their choice.

    `Struggling'
    ``He's struggling with them in terms of the nomination,'' Wilder said. ``I don't think that struggle will emanate through the general election because they have far more in common with him than they do with the Republican candidate.''

    Still, he said, Obama should be prepared for a discrepancy between polling and election results, which came to be known as the ``Wilder effect'' after the 1989 race.

    Previously, it had been dubbed the ``Bradley effect'' after Los Angeles Mayor Tom Bradley's 1982 gubernatorial loss in an election that polls had projected him to win. In both cases, exit surveys were inaccurate, leading pollsters to conclude that some white voters gave misleading answers to conceal racial prejudice. Polls before the Pennsylvania contest predicted a 5-point loss for Obama.

    Wilder predicted a tight race for Obama against the presumptive Republican presidential nominee, Arizona Senator John McCain, if Obama does win the nomination. He said he had advised the candidate on how to handle the race issue.

    `High Ground'
    ``I've told him to keep the high ground,'' he said. ``Let the rest of us do what needed to be done'' in responding to attacks.

    ``I told him it's going to be very difficult, particularly running against a woman,'' he said. ``And racially it's going to be even more difficult.''

    When Wilder ran for president for three months in 1992, internal polling in New Hampshire, the nation's first primary state, showed him at the top of the preference list based on his positions, his biography and his speeches, he said.
    ``As soon as my picture was put up associated with that, it would go down,'' he said.

    This year, Obama was projected to win the Jan. 8 New Hampshire contest after beating Clinton in the Iowa caucuses on Jan. 3. Polls had showed him ahead by 13 points. Yet Clinton beat him by 3 points in the Granite State.
    ``He should never have believed those New Hampshire polls, and I think now he recognizes that,'' Wilder said.

    Pitch for Kaine
    Wilder plugged Virginia Governor Tim Kaine as a strong vice presidential candidate for Obama. Kaine, 50, is national co- chairman of Obama's campaign.

    ``Kaine should be on the shortest of short lists,'' Wilder said. ``He's Southern and he's white, and I think he can carry Virginia'' as well as ``other parts of the South.''

    Kaine, in an April 16 interview, said he hasn't ``had any conversations'' with the Obama campaign about being Obama's running mate.

    Obama has ``been hurt'' by the controversy over the comments made by his former pastor, Jeremiah Wright, Wilder said. Yet, he said, ``if that's all they got in the tank, we'll be going up for Obama's inauguration.''
    Republicans will see few gains from focusing on race, he said.
    ``They will do so at their own risk of damaging the Republican Party forever,'' he said, because ``people are always ahead of leaders.''


    To contact the reporter on this story: Heidi Przybyla in Richmond at hprzybyla@bloomberg.net .
    Last edited by Karl; April 24, 2008, 10:31 AM.
    • Don't let negative things break you, instead let it be your strength, your reason for growth. Life is for living and I won't spend my life feeling cheated and downtrodden.

  • #2
    good article

    Infidelity does not consist in believing, or in disbelieving; it consists in professing to believe what he does not believe. Thomas Paine

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    • #3
      The Republican attack ad now getting much media coverage.

      http://hotair.com/archives/2008/04/2...cs-objections/

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      ...and just to explain my position as it relates to Hillary - It shall help her!
      Barack may lose North Carolina, a state with great numbers of blacks, as the number of whites that could gravitate away from him may be too great to overcome. The irony is he is leading by double digit numbers in the polls!

      Oh yes...racism is alive and well in America!
      "Never doubt that a small group of thoughtful, committed citizens can change the world. Indeed, it is the only thing that ever has."

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      • #4
        yuh sound PROUD!

        Infidelity does not consist in believing, or in disbelieving; it consists in professing to believe what he does not believe. Thomas Paine

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        • #5
          Originally posted by Karl View Post
          http://hotair.com/archives/2008/04/2...cs-objections/

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          ...and just to explain my position as it relates to Hillary - It shall help her!
          Barack may lose North Carolina, a state with great numbers of blacks, as the number of whites that could gravitate away from him may be too great to overcome. The irony is he is leading by double digit numbers in the polls!

          Oh yes...racism is alive and well in America!
          Karl, why is it the Republicans are more interested in facing Hillary in November than facing Barrack?
          "Jamaica's future reflects its past, having attained only one per cent annual growth over 30 years whilst neighbours have grown at five per cent." (Article)

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          • #6
            Not true at this point anymore Lazie they are waiting for Obama.

            I guess it depends on which strategist meanwhile McCain is busy condemning dirty politics.
            • Don't let negative things break you, instead let it be your strength, your reason for growth. Life is for living and I won't spend my life feeling cheated and downtrodden.

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            • #7
              yes but they would PREFER hilary.....obama would be more touchy hilary has 16 years worth of controversial material.....

              my favourite (one of) "we are the president of the united states"

              Infidelity does not consist in believing, or in disbelieving; it consists in professing to believe what he does not believe. Thomas Paine

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              • #8
                Originally posted by Assasin View Post
                Not true at this point anymore Lazie they are waiting for Obama.

                I guess it depends on which strategist meanwhile McCain is busy condemning dirty politics.
                Really, strange that ad start airing prior to the NC primary being contested by Obama and Clinton .. not Obama and McCain.
                "Jamaica's future reflects its past, having attained only one per cent annual growth over 30 years whilst neighbours have grown at five per cent." (Article)

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by Lazie View Post
                  Karl, why is it the Republicans are more interested in facing Hillary in November than facing Barrack?
                  You have it wrong! Barack is their 1st choice!
                  "Never doubt that a small group of thoughtful, committed citizens can change the world. Indeed, it is the only thing that ever has."

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                  • #10
                    they accept that it will be obama and are preparing thusly.

                    don't confuese the 2 issues

                    Infidelity does not consist in believing, or in disbelieving; it consists in professing to believe what he does not believe. Thomas Paine

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by Karl View Post
                      You have it wrong! Barack is their 1st choice!
                      Really? Suh why after McCain wrapped up the nomination, Rush "the drugie" Limbaugh encouraged his loyal followers to go out and vote for Clinton?
                      "Jamaica's future reflects its past, having attained only one per cent annual growth over 30 years whilst neighbours have grown at five per cent." (Article)

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by Gamma View Post
                        they accept that it will be obama and are preparing thusly.

                        don't confuese the 2 issues
                        They were pushing the "We would love to meet Hillary" disinformation when the process started...and all the Republican activists and media outlets (led by FOX) put into play their anti-Hillary drive. It was full overdrive pressure to tear down Hillary. Clearly the aim then was to not meet Hillary. Now Obama is a shoo in as the nominee...it is an early softening him up for the Presidential Elections. Take Obama down off his - I am the greatest thing since slice bread pedestal and pave the way for John McCain!

                        At this stage Hillary is the last person the republicans would like to see against McCain. They have got the democrats exactly where they want them. Now it is all about destruction of Obama. If Obama's performance in the last debate is anything to go by...he shall be helping the republicans.

                        ...on a different note - Obama's performance reminded me of Burrell's responding to our RBSC reporter Rico when his projection of self was summed up in that "Go Jump in the sea" comment.

                        Leaders must show mettle under fire. Burrell then (I think Burrell has grown since)...Obama in that debate showed weaknesses. The republicans shall put Obama's feet to the fire...I hope he is a fast learner and will 'represent' much better.
                        Last edited by Karl; April 24, 2008, 11:34 AM.
                        "Never doubt that a small group of thoughtful, committed citizens can change the world. Indeed, it is the only thing that ever has."

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                        • #13
                          lucky for her....that would be nothing compared to what would happen if she were the nominee.

                          Infidelity does not consist in believing, or in disbelieving; it consists in professing to believe what he does not believe. Thomas Paine

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                          • #14
                            More for Lazie

                            Originally posted by Karl View Post
                            You have it wrong! Barack is their 1st choice!

                            North Carolina excited to choose between Clinton and Obama

                            By MIKE BAKER,
                            Associated Press
                            Posted: 2008-04-24 09:49:00
                            RALEIGH, N.C. (AP) - Not since 1988 has North Carolina had much of a voice in choosing a presidential nominee. Back then, it joined several Southern states to help pick Al Gore, a neighbor from Tennessee.

                            But the longer-than-expected race between Hillary Rodham Clinton and Barack Obama for the Democratic presidential nomination will thrust the state into the national spotlight when it has its say on May 6. Indiana also votes that day.

                            The primary, offering 115 national convention delegates, comes two weeks after Pennsylvania gave the former first lady the win she needed to stay in the race. But Obama is favored to win North Carolina, the largest prize among the contests remaining.

                            "My crystal ball wasn't working well last year, and I certainly would not have anticipated this," said state Democratic Party chairman Jerry Meek. "But, in retrospect, having a May primary was a tremendously astute decision."

                            Voters, especially new ones, have taken note.

                            More than 165,000 people have registered to vote in North Carolina in the first three months of the year, a nearly threefold increase from the same period in 2004. Election officials expect a record turnout May 6 - about half of the more than 5.7 million registered voters, compared with past turnouts ranging from 16 percent to 31 percent.

                            Another wild card: A new law allows unregistered voters to sign up and vote on the same day through May 3. Both campaigns have launched efforts to turn out those voters, and the polling sites have been flooded since they opened last week.

                            As of midafternoon Wednesday, more than 74,700 "one-stop" ballots had been cast - about eight times higher than during the 2006 primary, according to the state Board of Elections. An additional 8,400 absentee ballots have been collected, officials said.

                            Voter registration is up overall, but the biggest boost has been among blacks.

                            More than 45,000 black voters have registered in the first three months of 2008, compared with just over 11,000 in the same period four years ago. Blacks make up more than 20 percent of the state's registered voters, according to Board of Elections data.

                            Those numbers bode well for Obama, who has won strong black support throughout the primaries.

                            There are other signs Clinton will have a hard time achieving victory in North Carolina.

                            Neither of the state's top two Democrats, outgoing Gov. Mike Easley and former White House hopeful John Edwards, have endorsed a candidate. Among superdelegates who have made their choice known, Obama has a 6-1 edge. The 10 remaining superdelegates, including Meek, are uncommitted.

                            The two Democratic candidates vying to replace Easley, who is barred by law from seeking a third consecutive term, are not only backing Obama but have made their support for him a feature of their campaigns.

                            State Treasurer Richard Moore has run radio ads on stations popular with black listeners noting he "was the first Democrat running for governor to endorse Barack Obama for president." His rival, Lt. Gov. Beverly Perdue, has sent mailers to likely black voters with a photo of her with Obama.

                            State Republican party officials have made the gubernatorial candidates' connection to Obama the focus of a TV ad scheduled to begin airing Monday that includes footage of Obama's controversial former pastor and calls the Democratic presidential hopeful "too extreme for North Carolina." On Wednesday, Sen. John McCain, the GOP's certain presidential nominee, called the ad "offensive" and asked party officials not to air it, but they refused.

                            Tar Heel politics are often both unpredictable and contradictory.

                            The state elected the populist Edwards to serve alongside arch conservative Jesse Helms in the Senate. It has not voted for a Democrat for president since 1976, when Georgia Gov. Jimmy Carter swept most of the South, but it has elected a Democratic majority to the state Senate for more than 100 years.

                            "People in North Carolina tend to look at individuals and offices distinctly and make the decision based on the person and the office," said Elon University pollster Hunter Bacot. "We have such a large number of independents. And they are true independents - they split ballots."

                            North Carolina has roughly 9 million people, making it the nation's 10th largest state. It is home to the Marine Corps' Camp Lejeune and the Army's Fort Bragg, two massive installations whose troops have suffered heavy losses in Iraq and Afghanistan.

                            What's left of a once vibrant manufacturing and textile industry is in tatters. Many voters blame the North American Free Trade Agreement, agreed to under President Clinton, for the decline and the thousands of job losses that followed.

                            The state's largest city, Charlotte, has become an international financial center as home of Bank of America Corp. and Wachovia Corp., the nation's leading retail and consumer banks.

                            It's high-tech economy, led by the many companies with facilities based at Research Triangle Park outside Raleigh, have withstood the national economic downturn. Home values have not suffered the same widespread decline as in other states, and North Carolina's income tax revenues remain strong compared with others.

                            Both Clinton and Obama started campaigning in the state long before this week's Pennsylvania primary. Clinton debuted quirky TV ads asking voters to submit questions, to which she responded in conversational spots. Obama has blanketed the state with his own ads.

                            Some political observers say Clinton needs to win North Carolina, the last big stop on the road to the August convention in Denver, to convince unaligned superdelegates that momentum has swung in her favor. Superdelegates are elected leaders and party officials who can vote for any candidate. That, they said, is her only chance to overcome Obama.

                            "She's got to build momentum - serious momentum - in order to make that argument," said Jeff Link, a Democratic strategist who advised former Iowa Gov. Tom Vilsack's brief presidential run. "She has to have a winning streak."


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                            04/24/2008 09:30 ET
                            "Never doubt that a small group of thoughtful, committed citizens can change the world. Indeed, it is the only thing that ever has."

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                            • #15
                              Because voting for Clinton would keep her in the race longer, and the longer the race goes on the better it is for the Republicans.

                              Right now I am not sure which one is the stronger Dem candidate. Both are very vulnerable. Clinton winning in the way she is trying to do it will cause the black vote to stay home, Obama winning will turn off the low income white votes in the swing states. Plus I suspect they have a lot more fresh ammunition to use against Obama.

                              I maintain that the Dems are playing with disaster. This year the polls should not even be close with an unpopular war, voters unhappy with the direction of the US economy , and a Republican candidate who plans to continue the current war and economic policies.
                              "‎It is easier to build strong children than to repair broken men" - Frederick Douglass

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