Another Obama e-mail I received! Interesting!

[Islandman]

That is true, for the most part. It should be noted though that the Japanese have generally treated the Chinese like sh&*t whenever they have been in a position to do so, and vice-versa

[Baddaz]

ever wondered why japan and china has managed to remain mostly homogenous...

[Gamma]

nothing near hillary...broker peace in ireland, sniper fire, the candian nafta whopper.......

i reeled off 3 of clintons, let me have 3 of obama's..

[Gamma]

not really....but hit mi....why?

[Islandman]

The sniper fire was the best. Every time them show her saying it with the video of what actually happened i bust out laughing.

Then she say she did sleepy when she say it? LOL!! So Jay Leno say, when the so-called "3 am phone call" come in and wake her up, what she capable of saying and doing then?

People fraid of Rev Wright? That woman is downright scary!! She look like one of those people who can lie so well they actually convince themselves them telling the truth.

[Islandman]

Probably an ongoing policy of ethic preservation...by any means necessary.

[Karl]

nothing near hillary...broker peace in ireland, sniper fire, the candian nafta whopper.......

i reeled off 3 of clintons, let me have 3 of obama's..

Hillary brokering peace - Fact! What weight you would like to put on it that is your business!

Obama stated - He is a University professor!

He certainly never had that designation conferred on him by any University.

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Hillary - NAFTA wopper?

You meant Obama's on NAFTA "ignore what I say...I shall not follow through" - carefully explained by his surrogate to the Canadians who he promptly threw under the bus?

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Hillary ducking bullets!

Obama - Getting rides from the Kennedys!

Contrary to Obama’s claims in speeches in January at American University and in Selma last year, the Kennedy family did not provide the funding for a September 1959 airlift of 81 Kenyan students to the United States that included Obama’s father. According to historical records and interviews with participants, the Kennedys were first approached for support for the program nearly a year later, in July 1960. The family responded with a $100,000 donation, most of which went to pay for a second airlift in September 1960.

Obama spokesman Bill Burton acknowledged yesterday that the senator from Illinois had erred in crediting the Kennedy family with a role in his father’s arrival in the United States. He said the Kennedy involvement in the Kenya student program apparently “started 48 years ago, not 49 years ago as Obama has mistakenly suggested in the past.”

...and btw - He soared to great heights as he said in that same speech in Selma -

--------Obama said: “There was something stirring across the country because of what happened in Selma, Alabama, because some folks are willing to march across a bridge. So they got together and Barack Obama Junior was born. So don’t tell me I don’t have a claim on Selma, Alabama.”

...some members of his faithful were moved to tears. Unfortunately it was a tall tale.

...bloggers pointed out that the Selma bridge protest occurred four years after Obama’s birth..

...a spokesman explained that the senator was referring to the civil rights movement in general, rather than any one event.

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The matter of Obama on issues has three faces:

Obama's "I was against this war from the beginning....".

Those who agree with him!

Those who listen with wry amusement!

http://creativeyouth.net/obamaliespeopledie.html

[Gamma]

was he an adjunct by any chance? they call adjuncts professors too you know. they called me that when i taught business law at thw community college here.....

anyway a you have proved a long held theory of mine.....after the "road to damascus" experience saul, the persecutor became paul the apostle, right? WRONG...a zealot is a zealot is a zealot!

[Karl]

was he an adjunct by any chance? they call adjuncts professors too you know. they called me that when i taught business law at thw community college here.....

anyway a you have proved a long held theory of mine.....after the "road to damascus" experience saul, the persecutor became paul the apostle, right? WRONG...a zealot is a zealot is a zealot!

You tell me?!
...and the other fibs? ...not big enough?

...by the way what about the way he tells his audience about Hillary's health care program?

i) He was the one, he tells us that came out with a Universal Health Care program first!

Forget about Hillary's - Bill Clinton ear efforts!

ii) Hillary's Health Care Program has mandates. She will come after your pocket-books. There are plans in there to put you in jail if you cannot pay.

Three lies -
i) Mandates?
The inference is Hillary's has mandates. His does not!

True is, his also has mandates!

ii) Hillary has aped payment at scource (pay-checks) as does Social Security. Some call that the "painless way".

...and Obama's say you pay - Your homework! ...and btw - Is the inference the individual does not pay using his plan? Sure he puts in "bringing down cost"...but that is an essential part of Hillary's plan also

iii) Jails?
He is the only one that mentions 'courts'?

FactCheck: Hillary's plan does mandate; but so does Obama's

Obama said that his health care plan has "about 95%" in common with rival Hillary Clinton's. Nevertheless, his campaign sent out a piece of direct mail that could mislead those who are not familiar with Clinton's plan.

The mailer focuses on the primar difference between the two candidates' proposals: whether they would require everyone to obtain coverage. Clinton's plan would require all Americans to get insurance, though she hasn't said what will happen if they don't. Obama's plan would require insurance for all children but not for adults.

The Obama campaign is trying to shift the focus to some unspecified "punishment" that Clinton's plan would mete out for those who didn't obtain coverage. It's true that a "mandate" implies penalties for noncompliance, and Clinton's campaign has yet to outline what those would be. But Obama's plan, which would mandate coverage for children, would presumably also have some enforcement mechanism, and he doesn't make explicit what that would be, either

Source: FactCheck.org: AdWatch of 2008 healthcare mailer Feb 4, 2008

...and still Health Care

FactCheck: Yes, Obama favored single-payer, despite denial

Clinton charged that Obama's position has shifted on health care, from favoring a single-payer, universal system when he was a Senate candidate to the plan he favors now, which has no requirement. Obama denied that he had ever said he would work to get a single-payer plan, saying, "I never said that we should try to get single-payer. I said that if I were starting from scratch, I would probably go with a single-payer system."


But Obama's denial doesn't hold up. In a speech in June 2003, Obama said: "I happen to be a proponent of a single-payer health care program. I see no reason why the US cannot provide basic health insurance to everybody. A single-payer health care plan, a universal health care plan. And that's what I'd like to see."

After his election, Obama tempered his position, saying in May 2007, "If you're starting from scratch, then a single-payer system would probably make sense. But managing the transition would be difficult. So we may need a system that's not so disruptive.

Source: FactCheck.org on 2008 Congressional Black Caucus Dem. Debate Jan 21, 2008

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FactCheck: No, US costs are not twice as much as others

Obama repeated an old chestnut about health care costs, saying "Our medical care costs twice as much per capita as any other advanced nation." This is an exaggeration. The United States does spend nearly twice as much on average as most developed nations, but it is inaccurate to say that it spends twice as much as "any other."

In a 2007 Kaiser Family Foundation report comparing the health care spending of Organisation for Economic Co-operation and Development member countries, the United States came in first at $5,711 per capita. But Luxembourg spent $4,611, only $1,100 less per capita than the U.S. The next biggest spender, Switzerland, spent $3,874, also far more than half of U.S. spending. KFF noted, however, that the United States' spending was "over 90% higher than in many other countries that we would consider global competitors."

Source: FactCheck.org on 2008 Congressional Black Caucus Dem. Debate Jan 21, 2008

[Mosiah]

Is Simoes a professor?

[Gamma]

reaching karl.....anyway, the writing is on the wall for hillary

[Assasin]

The real truth is as long as you have massive emails like this and Obama is associated with the civil rights leaders HE WILL NOT WIN.

Many, Most in white America will deal with you on a daily basis but don't want to hear anything about our history and think all civil rights leaders are troublemaker. The only reason they honor and give some respect to Dr.King is because he is dead and they are forced to.

The fact is it is still uncomfortable talking about civil rights issues in the workplace and once a black white issue comes up in the media like OJ, Rodney King, Police shooting of innocent blacks we know which side black fall on, and white fall on.

Many white people have no time for our history execpt the few who work in black inner city in schools, church and non profits etc.

With letter like this they become defensive and thinking black man coming to take over their white world. Yes America is better than many countries as all now you can't get a black English EPL coach and there is no shame, is there a black french coach? where so many blacks are playing?

It is the cold hard facts.

[Islandman]

Try tell Maudib dat. Him say dem days done and is all about change. LOL

I have a number of co-workers, white and Latino that I used to discuss this years election with on a regular basis, most of them are moderate Democrats. Since Rev Wright all politics argument done. Everybody unfomfortable bringing it up. Maybe them talk bout it when me not around though, who knows.

[Yuttie]

Islandman, stop bring dem 7uckery to di table, yo sounding like spawn of Karl with yo cut and paste post....

America is so friggin segregated it's unbelievable, in a "progressive" city like NYC..di blacks live in on place, the spanish another, the whites another, the indians, etc... not to mention races still move out if dem si too much of another population influx

wake up and admit that a white man would rather hire a white crackhead than a educated blackman.... racism is stronger than ever, and the clowns like Limbaugh and Lou Dobbs whe yo listen have yo talking in sound bites

YES WE CAN

[Islandman]

wake up and admit that a white man would rather hire a white crackhead than a educated blackman.... racism is stronger than ever, and the clowns like Limbaugh and Lou Dobbs whe yo listen have yo talking in sound bites

Wow! I wonder why a black man fooling himself by running for President then?

You might as well drop out of school, you wasting you time because you going to have to work at McDonalds.

I guess there must be a shortage of white crackheads in my town, I have never had a shortage of job offers since I've been in the US.