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    La Prensa endorses Barack Obama for president
    Feb. 27, 2008

    Hillary Clinton was elected to be a U.S. Senator for New York in November of 2000; Barack Obama was elected to be a U.S. Senator for Illinois in November of 2004. Prior to this, Obama served eight years in the Illinois State Legislature - from 1996 through 2004.

    Clinton graduated from Yale Law School. Obama graduated from Harvard Law School. Both have similar voting records in the Senate and both are highly qualified to be president of the United States.

    After reviewing the issues, La Prensa endorses Barack Obama for president.
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    Of the two, Obama is viewed as the less polarizing candidate, as illustrated by his crossover appeal to both Independents and Republicans in the primaries, especially in Wisconsin, where Obama received 58% of the vote compared to 41% for Clinton—the Independents and Republicans, who voted for Obama, contributed to his 17-point margin of victory.

    To date, Obama has captured victories in 24 states, compared to 13 states garnered by Clinton.

    La Prensa endorses Obama over Clinton because of Obama’s willingness to hold diplomatic talks with Cuba with no preconditions, unlike Clinton, who stated in their debate in Austin on Feb. 21, 2008, that she would not hold such discussions without preconditions. The United States has boasted of almost 5 decades of embargo on Cuba and the Cuban people, while the United States has relations with the Communist dictatorships of Viet Nam and China. The majority of the world, including U.S. allies, trades and negotiates with Cuba.

    La Prensa endorses Obama for his sound judgment in decrying the unilateral, preemptive military attack upon Iraq. Obama predicted the outcome of this unwise venture. The United States has disrupted the Middle East, is paying $400 million a day for a war that should have never been initiated by the Bush administration and his “experienced” administration. Clinton, as a member of the Senate, voted for this war and has, to date, not apologized, unlike former presidential contender John Edwards.

    La Prensa endorses Obama for his stance on NAFTA. NAFTA has siphoned many jobs from U.S. workers, particularly in the Midwest, from the United States to Asia, especially to Communist China and Viet Nam. Clinton’s husband, Bill Clinton, was a key advocate for NAFTA; history reveals that, initially, Hillary Clinton was a proponent of NAFTA.

    La Prensa has questioned the circumstances around the termination by Clinton of the first Latina Democratic campaign manager, Patti Solis Doyle.

    La Prensa urges its readers to vote for Barack Obama for president. La Prensa urges voters in Ohio and Texas to vote for Barack Obama on March 4, 2008, even if the voter is Independent or Republican.

    Finally, La Prensa urges the “superdelegates” to follow the lead of their respective constituents. La Prensa urges the Democratic National Committee and the Democratic parties of Michigan and Florida to reschedule primaries in these two states so that their respective voices can be heard come August 25-28, at the Democratic National Convention.
    Karl commenting on Maschaeroni's sending off, "Getting sent off like that is anti-TEAM!
    Terrible decision by the player!":busshead::Laugh&roll::Laugh&roll::eek::La ugh&roll:

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    Originally posted by Yuttie View Post
    La Prensa endorses Barack Obama for president
    Feb. 27, 2008

    Hillary Clinton was elected to be a U.S. Senator for New York in November of 2000; Barack Obama was elected to be a U.S. Senator for Illinois in November of 2004. Prior to this, Obama served eight years in the Illinois State Legislature - from 1996 through 2004.

    Clinton graduated from Yale Law School. Obama graduated from Harvard Law School. Both have similar voting records in the Senate and both are highly qualified to be president of the United States.

    After reviewing the issues, La Prensa endorses Barack Obama for president.
    1
    Of the two, Obama is viewed as the less polarizing candidate, as illustrated by his crossover appeal to both Independents and Republicans in the primaries, especially in Wisconsin, where Obama received 58% of the vote compared to 41% for Clinton—the Independents and Republicans, who voted for Obama, contributed to his 17-point margin of victory.

    To date, Obama has captured victories in 24 states, compared to 13 states garnered by Clinton.

    La Prensa endorses Obama over Clinton because of Obama’s willingness to hold diplomatic talks with Cuba with no preconditions, unlike Clinton, who stated in their debate in Austin on Feb. 21, 2008, that she would not hold such discussions without preconditions. The United States has boasted of almost 5 decades of embargo on Cuba and the Cuban people, while the United States has relations with the Communist dictatorships of Viet Nam and China. The majority of the world, including U.S. allies, trades and negotiates with Cuba.

    La Prensa endorses Obama for his sound judgment in decrying the unilateral, preemptive military attack upon Iraq. Obama predicted the outcome of this unwise venture. The United States has disrupted the Middle East, is paying $400 million a day for a war that should have never been initiated by the Bush administration and his “experienced” administration. Clinton, as a member of the Senate, voted for this war and has, to date, not apologized, unlike former presidential contender John Edwards.

    La Prensa endorses Obama for his stance on NAFTA. NAFTA has siphoned many jobs from U.S. workers, particularly in the Midwest, from the United States to Asia, especially to Communist China and Viet Nam. Clinton’s husband, Bill Clinton, was a key advocate for NAFTA; history reveals that, initially, Hillary Clinton was a proponent of NAFTA.

    La Prensa has questioned the circumstances around the termination by Clinton of the first Latina Democratic campaign manager, Patti Solis Doyle.

    La Prensa urges its readers to vote for Barack Obama for president. La Prensa urges voters in Ohio and Texas to vote for Barack Obama on March 4, 2008, even if the voter is Independent or Republican.

    Finally, La Prensa urges the “superdelegates” to follow the lead of their respective constituents. La Prensa urges the Democratic National Committee and the Democratic parties of Michigan and Florida to reschedule primaries in these two states so that their respective voices can be heard come August 25-28, at the Democratic National Convention.
    A critical issue?
    Obama appears to have won a significant number of pledge delegates in states which the Democrats have not won in the last few Presidential elections.

    Will he carry those states if he becomes the democratic nominee?

    Hillary has carried the large states which has always been won by the Democratic nominee who has gone on to be President.

    There is an argument that Obama will get Hillary's votes if he wins the race to become the Democratic nominee and it therefore follows it is just tough on Hillary that she would have carried those large states in the Presidential Election and thus the presidency. Obama being the front runner deserves to inherit her support in those, thought of as necessary must win large states and go on to become President. For Hillary it is claimed, her position is that of 'cudda been president'...you did not, based on won pledged delegates as Obama has done, qualify for a run in a final you would have won.

    The super-delegates from those large states should not vote for Hillary and thus allow her to win the contest. They should not vote as their constituents have voted (see example - the going against grain - high profile Ted Kennedy and John Kerry among others who are voting against the choice of these supporters). They should vote to fall in line with leader in pledged delegates!

    John Lewis a former Hillary supporter who has switched to follow the choice of his constituents) has thrown his weight behind Obama and justified his move as that of following the will of his constituents? A position that is entirely understandable.

    We are to remember that the creation of super delegates was pointedly instituted to, not as has been banded about to 'prevent arriving at the democratic convention with a clear choicce of candidate' ...but to act as safeguard by ensuring the most electable democratic candidate would face the Republican nominee in the presidential election. In other words, the super delegates were installed to 'save the democratic votes from themselves'. These super delegates were 'a guarantee' that the democratic party would have greatest and best opportunity to win the presidency.

    1. If a situation arises where Hillary wins all the must win states inclusive Florida and Ohio and loses the pledge delegate race to Obama...would she have a great argument why the super delegates from those states should throw their weight behind her?

    ...or...

    ...should the super delegates, Hillary being behind in pledged delegates, vote with & for Obama the leader in those pledged delgates?

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    2. There are also other scenarios one such is Hillary winning the pledge delegate race - winning enough pledged delegates in the coming democratic primary elections to overhaul Obama...and possible losing the popular vote race.

    Should the super delegates then throw their support behind Obama, forget how their constituents voted...and give Obama 'winnings'?

    Aside: Why is Obama and are Obama's surrogates making the claim that he would get Hillary's votes but it is unclear Hillary would get his votes? What are the facts that support that claim?

    Did not all the polls claim both Hillary and Obama are 76% (approximately) liked by the democratic votes and wach would have no problem voting for the other?
    "Never doubt that a small group of thoughtful, committed citizens can change the world. Indeed, it is the only thing that ever has."

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    • #3
      Jason Linkins

      The Huffington Post


      huffpolitics, Barack Obama, Bill Clinton, Bill Clinton's influence on Hillary's popularity, Hillary Clinton, Mark Penn
      L.A. Times Captures Clinton Camp In-Fighting, Fingers Bill, Penn

      March 3, 2008 09:55 AM


      Read More: Barack Obama, Bill Clinton, Bill Clinton's Influence On Hillary's Popularity, Hillary Clinton, Mark Penn, Breaking Politics News Politics

      Buzz up! huffington_post:http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/0...t_n_89555.html

      huffington_post:http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/0...t_n_89555.htmlBuzz up!on Yahoo!

      One emerging narrative of how the Clinton campaign ended up going from front-runner status to late-stage delegate scavengers is that hers was a good candidacy that got nibbled to death by the quacks with whom she chose to surround herself. Too often, the offstage players have brought unto themselves too much of the wrong sort of attention: the apparently profligate spending of Patti Solis Doyle, Howard Wolfson's constant denigration of whole voter slates as unimportant, and the lack of an apparent post-Super Tuesday plan are some of the examples of internal campaign failings that have put a drag on Clinton's candidacy.
      A new article in this morning's L.A. Times continues this narrative, capturing a campaign so riven with infighting that the only thing the story lacks is an admonishment from Merkin Muffley that you can't fight in the war room. The article casts a wide net in general, but more or less comes up fingering two figures for the most blame: former President Bill Clinton and campaign strategist Mark Penn.
      Some of this is hardly surprising. Bill Clinton's decision to mount a not-very-charming charm offensive in South Carolina is ripped apart again, depicted by a campaign aide as a quixotic "one-man mission" in territory that had already turned fallow, culminating in the former President's "Jesse Jackson" remark, which only ensured that the negatives from South Carolina would follow the New York Senator elsewhere.
      But largely, the Times article is more bad news for Mark Penn. The big pull-quote from last week's New York Observer article on all things Penn was his confident negation of the need to emphasize Hillary Clinton's softer side: "Oh, come on, being human is overrated." In the Times' recounting, however, it looks like even that belief came out of some focus group:
      The campaign produced a 60-second television ad before the Iowa caucuses that attempted to do so. In it, Clinton told the story of her mother leaving Chicago on a train at age 8, accompanied only by her 3-year-old sister, to live with grandparents in Los Angeles. It was a poignant story that campaign aides hoped would also highlight Clinton's interest in children's issues.
      But Penn tested the advertisement with voters. He reported back that it did not play well in Iowa, and it never aired -- leaving some aides grumbling that an opportunity had been missed.
      Now, according to the Times Penn is trying to downplay his involvement with the campaign, essentially sidelining himself as an unimportant player, and placing blame at the feet of his colleagues:
      Penn said in an e-mail over the weekend that he had "no direct authority in the campaign," describing himself as merely "an outside message advisor with no campaign staff reporting to me."
      "I have had no say or involvement in four key areas -- the financial budget and resource allocation, political or organizational sides. Those were the responsibility of Patti Solis Doyle, Harold Ickes and Mike Henry, and they met separately on all matters relating to those areas."
      Wolfson counters Penn's interpretation in the Times' story, saying "that it was Penn who had top responsibility for both its strategy and message."
      Karl commenting on Maschaeroni's sending off, "Getting sent off like that is anti-TEAM!
      Terrible decision by the player!":busshead::Laugh&roll::Laugh&roll::eek::La ugh&roll:

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      • #4
        Originally posted by Yuttie View Post
        La Prensa endorses Barack Obama for president
        Feb. 27, 2008
        La Prensa has questioned the circumstances around the termination by Clinton of the first Latina Democratic campaign manager, Patti Solis Doyle.
        Dem mek the latina chick the fall girl, and it nuh help that the campaign was spending $100,000 fi lunch!
        Winning means you're willing to go longer, work harder, and give more than anyone else - Vince Lombardi

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        • #5
          yo nuh si how di Canadian opposition affi wild up di acanadian government fi scnadal off barack..lol
          Karl commenting on Maschaeroni's sending off, "Getting sent off like that is anti-TEAM!
          Terrible decision by the player!":busshead::Laugh&roll::Laugh&roll::eek::La ugh&roll:

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