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[Assasin]

the forum saying you are neutral and not into the PNP/JLP thing but you have gotten very trivial fighting some losing battles and trying to pick every little thing wrong with the JLP even when nothing nuh exist.


You claiming "you think Omar" negociate the side deal when there was no evidence to it.

You claim "Mike Henry" is silenced

Now the "dark" thing etc.

Save your fights for real issues. You interlectual reasoning on these things are a crying shame brethren.

[Karl]

the forum saying you are neutral and not into the PNP/JLP thing but you have gotten very trivial fighting some losing battles and trying to pick every little thing wrong with the JLP even when nothing nuh exist.


You claiming "you think Omar" negociate the side deal when there was no evidence to it.

Kindly give us the evidence that the negotiation was completed when the JLP took office?

[Assasin]

I have no evidence only that a side deal was done and when a side deal is done it is not normally included in the intial deal. Who did the side deal I don't know and neither do you but as reported the 'exclusive" hotels were influencial in that deal.

[Karl]

I have no evidence only that a side deal was done and when a side deal is done it is not normally included in the intial deal.
Who did the side deal I don't know and neither do you...

Thank you!

...but as reported the 'exclusive" hotels were influencial in that deal.

Kindly post the information that the 'exclusive' hotels were influencial in that deal?

Oooh! - please do not post yourself as the source of the information?!

[Assasin]

I am no source

Local News>Air J, Virgin expand code-sharing to Miami

Janet Silvera , Senior Tourism Writer

The deal involving the sale of Air Jamaica's Heathrow slots to Virgin Atlantic has been finalised, with the code-share agreement officially to take effect November 30, Virgin's spokesman Paul Charles confirmed this week.
Speaking on the margins of the World Travel Market trade show in London, Charles said the Heathrow slots were officially transferred by the Jamaican Government last week while the letter finalising the code-share agreement was received by Virgin a few days later.
The deal the Financial Gleaner has learned also involves an additional agreement, negotiated in the past two weeks, for Virgin flights from Heathrow through Miami to Jamaica to connect on Air Jamaica's JM026 and JM024 flights into Montego Bay and Kingston, respectively.
Air Jamaica anticipates earnings of $142 million in the first year of the arrangement.
Hotelier Josef Forstmayr who runs the exclusive Round Hill property on the outskirts of greater Montego Bay, said the side deal, with the Miami option, while not the perfect solution, made the London route sale more palatable.
Complained bitterly
Forstmayr had complained bitterly that his market, largely pulled from continental Europe, would be badly inconvenienced by having to go to Gatwick International to connect to Jamaica.
But now, he said, Round Hill's guests flying in from Vienna, Rome, Berlin, Paris, Prague and Russia can connect through Miami and get to Jamaica on the same day.
Virgin Atlantic, having said it was the more profitable option, is holding to plans to service Kingston from Gatwick, whose slots Transport Minister Mike Henry had described as 'junk' during a visit to Jamaica by Virgin chairman Sir Richard Branson to settle an emerging quarrel with the Bruce Golding administration over the route sale to his company.
Henry was relieved of his responsibility for Air Jamaica in the week following those comments.
"We are delighted that the best outcome for Jamaica has been achieved and we look forward to carrying many thousands of Jamaicans over the next few years," said Charles.
Air Jamaica's vice-president of marketing, Paul Pennicook, who confirmed the Miami code-share arrangement, said the deal with Virgin should earn Air Jamaica US$2 million (J$142 million) in the first year of the agreement.
Losing
Prior to sale of the Heathrow slots, reportedly for £5 million (US$10 million), the Jamaican carrier was said to be losing between US$25 million and US$27 million annually on the London route.
Under the agreement, Air Jamaica will maintain a presence in the United Kingdom, by way of an office in London "to take care of Air Jamaica's business," said Pennicook.
He said travellers would be able to book seats with the airline from that market and that Virgin flights will be assigned an Air Jamaica flight number.
An Air Jamaica representative is also expected to be at the airport during check-ins.
Pennicook would not comment on his business in London, but Virgin has said the two airlines remain in discussion on areas of cooperation to expand their partnership.
janet.silvera@gleanerjm.com

[Don1]

the forum saying you are neutral and not into the PNP/JLP thing but you have gotten very trivial fighting some losing battles and trying to pick every little thing wrong with the JLP even when nothing nuh exist.


You claiming "you think Omar" negociate the side deal when there was no evidence to it.

You claim "Mike Henry" is silenced

Now the "dark" thing etc.

Save your fights for real issues. You interlectual reasoning on these things are a crying shame brethren.

I never said I was neutral. If you can find that statement in my posts please point it out. I did say that the petty PNP/JLP stuff doesn't interest me.

I have said that the JLP victory was good for democracy in Jamaica and I'm more than willing to give them a chance to perform.

I have also said that I criticize both parties as I see fit. I believe and have stated here that the PNP was stale, arrogant and prone to corrupt activities after almost 20 years in office. They thought it was their god-given right to govern. The people reminded them that it's not.

All this does not mean that the JLP is exempt from my criticism..... but I have been very sparing in that regard.

My Mike Henry comment is not criticism... it's an observation that he's relatively quiet. You might disagree but what's wrong with the statement?

My Air Jamaica/Virgin comments similarly were not criticism.... I said Golding showed leadership on the issue by closing the deal and neutering a well meaning but impolitic Mike Henry.

The "dark" issue is a personal crusade of mine and any guy who promotes that kind of thinking will hear from me ...... unless the person is unreasonable or idiotic and not worth my time.

I will respond to you as a reasonable man but generally not to some others who post in disagreement with me if they fall in the above categories. If they are true to form you may find some examples below.
Respek

[Mosiah]

The "dark" issue is a personal crusade of mine and any guy who promotes that kind of thinking will hear from me ...... unless the person is unreasonable or idiotic and not worth my time.

[Assasin]

mi respect your opinion but when you say the JLP/PNP stuff don't interest you and you bring the small things about the JLP that is a total contradiction.

If you preach Marcus then there is a lot of things which our people need uplifting in like the embracing of gun culture and think a only the "brown man" a di problem.

[Mosiah]

Nuff work to be done, but mi nah leggo offa di race and class ting once they raise their ugly heads.

[Assasin]

yes but we nah fi instigate it when it not needed.

[Lazie]

Nuff work to be done, but mi nah leggo offa di race and class ting once they raise their ugly heads.

the only ppl I see holding on the race and class ting is you, Don1 and the collection of comrades.

[Muadib]

Man all a draw fi dem cyard because dem nuh waan get up outta seat dat nuh belong to dem.

One questions which aspect of the race/class thing is the ugliest part...

[Don1]

the only ppl I see holding on the race and class ting is you, Don1 and the collection of comrades.

Bredrin, when one has the courage of one's conviction regarding a matter of importance it's a moral imperative to pursue the issue even if one is alone.

In this case I am happy to have the support of those who are conscious and discerning on this board.
We speak for the voiceless majority as well as ourselves.

I recall one of our icons saying "emancipate yourself from mental slavery". Many love to recite it because it's popular, unfortunately fewer try to live it daily. It's reserved for situations of profiling for that set.

Bob's philosophy of emancipation is completely anathema to saying "dem dark eeh" yet many would say both phrases in the same conversation and not realize the contradiction and hypocrisy.

It's a long road to redemption indeed.

[Muadib]

What voiceless minority...

Try and tell a Black man that he is in the wrong seat in the Grand Stand.. you will get 'voicefull' response full of theories regarding complexion and slavery.

A very long road to redemption.. especially made so by those with 'courage and conviction'

The 'Revolution' was in 1972...

The results speak for themselves..(build a road between here and Merica and see which way the traffic flows)..

[Don1]

yes but we nah fi instigate it when it not needed.

Who determines when raising this issue is "not needed"? You? When it doesn't suit a certain political timetable?

Fact is Bruce Golding precipitated raising this issue with his foolish and misguided comment. I'll give him the benefit of the doubt and say that he is either ignorant of the self hatred contained therein (after all many on this board and in Jamaica seem to be) or just meant it in the strict colloquial meaning (akin to the ostrich with his head in the sand).

Either way I believe the issue is valid. In fact even if he didn't make the comment and I choose to raise the issue of language/media and it's psychological impact on black people ..... that is an evergreen and legitimate discussion in my view.