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    PUBLIC AFFAIRS - Corruption and the black bourgeoisie
    published: Sunday | October 28, 2007

    Don Robotham, Contributor


    Jackie Knight-Campbell (left), special events consultant for Juici Patties (left), and Douglas Orane, chairman and CEO of GraceKennedy, were among the many private sector figures who gave their support to a private sector-led peace protest at Emancipation Park in May 2005. The rally failed to garner mass support.

    Shocking allegations about some members of the previous People's National Party (PNP) government have come to public attention. The Cuban light bulb saga threatens to out-Trafigura Trafigura. Nobody wants to jump to conclusions and to try anyone in public. But very serious allegations have been made which require urgent answers.

    One report in the press stated that the former Prime Minister has asked for a report from her colleagues by week after next Monday. Nearly two weeks - to do what? We need answers now.

    The issue before us concerns the energy-saving light bulbs supplied free of charge to the Jamaican Government by the Cuban government in 2006. The value of these bulbs has been estimated at between J$1 billion and J$2 billion. According to information published in the press, the distribution of these bulbs involved the Universal Management and Distribution Company, which was incorporated shortly before the bulbs arrived.

    It is alleged further, that another company, named Caribbean Communications Media Network, also incorporated at roughly the same time, became involved in the process. The allegation is that approximately J$114 million has been paid out by government without any evidence of a proper tender and contract-award process.

    The issue is made even more complex by reports that all Members of Parliament who sought to obtain these bulbs for their constituency were also required to pay approximately J$3 million each. It is not clear to whom these additional funds were paid, if they were indeed paid.

    Very serious matter


    Former Prime Minister Portia Simpson Miller should not pull a Trafigura 'I-don't-know' response. The public needs answers now. - Rudolph Brown/Chief Photographer

    However, the really serious allegations going the rounds are that the principals in these companies have very close ties to a leading member of the PNP. If these allegations are true, it is a very serious matter indeed.

    The PNP, at the highest level needs to make a statement right now, and I mean today, stating clearly who the principals of these companies are and what connection, if any, such persons may have to leading PNP members. Anything less than a frank, full and prompt account will not do. The entire good name of the PNP is at stake here. Don't even think about pulling another 'know-nothing' Trafigura non-response. It will not work.

    Some weeks ago, I pointed out that "over a period of 18 years, a lumpen army, large and small, has come to be dependent on the State for contracts, board appointments, jobs, security protection, insider information, contacts and privileges. Retaining control over the State is a matter of life and death for them." For this, I was roundly abused in some quarters. Well what do the 'tracers' have to say now?

    No excuse

    There can be no excuse for ripping off the State. The argument frequently heard when the PNP was in power was that they were only doing what others had done before them. Usually, this was given a racial cast. It was said that all the large fortunes in Jamaica from slavery onwards had been obtained illicitly with the assistance of hefty government contracts, and that all that was happening was that the friends of the PNP were simply following a well-trod path.

    The difference, they insisted, was that previous parasites on the State were white, Chinese, Syrian and light-skinned while they were black. According to these 'black princes', when it was a matter of ethnic minority business parasitising on the state, there was no problem. But if black business persons did the very same thing, there was an outcry. In other words, the claim was that what one was objecting to was not corruption in general; what was bugging people was black corruption only.

    No substance

    This argument had a sufficient grain of truth to give it a superficial plausibility. But in reality, it had no substance. Without doubt, others from ethnic minorities had benefited greatly from state contracts. But anyone who imagined that the reason for the fortunes of some of these well-known families was corruption of the State is simply ignorant.

    This wealth was acquired by shrewd and tough business acumen combined with hard and imaginative work. These people burned the midnight oil for years on end before they achieved what they have. They saved and re-invested their profits and did not foolishly splurge it on 'bling' as some in the black bourgeoisie are inclined to do. It took many of them several generations to reach where they have and there were many serious bumps along the road.

    Yet, for largely racial reasons, the myth persists in Jamaica that the light-skinned upper classes are simply a bunch of latter-day pirates. This is simply a self-serving justification used by the corrupt to justify their corruption.

    Such persons use legitimate grievances about wealth inequality and racial privilege in Jamaica not to reduce inequality for the mass, but to justify their attempts to acquire illicit personal wealth in as short a time as possible, by any means necessary.

    This mad rush to acquire wealth no matter how, has been the downfall of the former PNP regime. This is not simply because this approach fostered corruption. More important, it led the PNP to turn its back on the economic and social sufferings of its mass base and concentrate only on the enrichment of a small group of black princes. This was and is such a despicable exploitation of a genuine cause - that of the development of a real black bourgeoisie in Jamaica.

    Instead of developing broad programmes to lift the entire small- and medium-size black business sector and its labour force to a higher level, cronyism and favouritism became the order of the day. It wasn't even a matter of being PNP. One had to be a member of the charmed circle of insiders in order to be let in on the deals of the day.

    Now the chickens are coming home to roost on this wretched policy. More cases are likely in addition to the current one. At the same time, the issue of the needs of the small- and medium-size sector which is the same as the issue of the black bourgeoisie, remains unaddressed.

    CENTRAL ISSUE

    We should not allow the reality of corruption to distract us from this central issue. One of the main reasons for the political and economic instability of Jamaica is the fact that the Jamaican capitalist class continues to be largely drawn from the light-skinned elite. As that failed May 2005 protest of the PSOJ against crime at Emanci-pation Park proved, this business elite is viewed with great suspicion and even outright hostility by the mass of Jamaicans. This is largely because of race. If our bourgeoisie were blacker, this issue would be taken off the table and both our economic and our political life would become infinitely more stable.

    The potential to address this problem is right there before us. Jamaica is probably the only country in the Caribbean to have such a vibrant Black bourgeoisie in the making, many of them women, as recent studies have documented.

    We have an extremely hard working and talented group of black businesspersons - I call them the Hagley Park Road sector, after the area in which many of their businesses are located. Most of these persons toil against great odds to keep their business alive and to expand and develop. Many have had bitter experiences of discrimination on racial and class grounds when seeking credit and involved in other legitimate business pursuits. Largely for racial reasons they were excluded from the informal social networks in which the really big deals were made. Overcoming immense obstacles, some have done well but need help to do even better this group tends to be PNP, the vast majority do not have access to the sort of special privileges as in the light bulb case.

    While prosecuting those who indulge in corrupt practices to the fullest we should also adopt a more positive approach as well. We must open the door wide to help the mass of honest small and medium entrepreneurs so that the corrupt minority does not swamp us all.

  • #2
    I see you have even begun with the name-calling as your friends (Maudib and Lazie) like to do.

    sigh


    BLACK LIVES MATTER

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    • #3
      Originally posted by Mosiah View Post
      I see you have even begun with the name-calling as your friends (Maudib and Lazie) like to do.

      sigh

      I have always called him so.

      Its funny.

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      • #4
        Okay. I thought you were just following Maudib and Lazie. In fact, most Robothams I know have been called just that!


        BLACK LIVES MATTER

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        • #5
          I actually have sm family by that name..if that were my name...wouldn't find it funny at all.
          Jamaica seems to be a place that thrives on names and nicknames though..I wonder why?...I can hardly remember the 'real' names of a lot of people I knew since back in the day....just recently I saw an old school friend at the airport and it was kinda embarassing only remembering his nickname...luckily he left me his card.

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          • #6
            LOL !

            What name dem di call yuh in school ?

            Heh, heh.

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            • #7
              Hmm let me take a try...

              Hit out ?

              What do you think about the tactic of 'hitting out' with 2 overs to go ?

              At what point should one begin that tactic ?


              LOL !!! WHOEEEE !!

              Can't beat the 'name calling' tangent though.. dat one deh daaangerous.

              Rispec.

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              • #8
                Originally posted by Willi View Post
                PUBLIC AFFAIRS - Corruption and the black bourgeoisie
                published: Sunday | October 28, 2007

                Don Robotham, Contributor


                Shocking allegations about some members of the previous People's National Party (PNP) government have come to public attention. The Cuban light bulb saga threatens to out-Trafigura Trafigura. Nobody wants to jump to conclusions and to try anyone in public. But very serious allegations have been made which require urgent answers.
                Yes!


                One report in the press stated that the former Prime Minister has asked for a report from her colleagues by week after next Monday. Nearly two weeks - to do what? We need answers now.

                The issue before us concerns the energy-saving light bulbs supplied free of charge to the Jamaican Government by the Cuban government in 2006. The value of these bulbs has been estimated at between J$1 billion and J$2 billion. According to information published in the press, the distribution of these bulbs involved the Universal Management and Distribution Company, which was incorporated shortly before the bulbs arrived.

                It is alleged further, that another company, named Caribbean Communications Media Network, also incorporated at roughly the same time, became involved in the process. The allegation is that approximately J$114 million has been paid out by government without any evidence of a proper tender and contract-award process.

                The issue is made even more complex by reports that all Members of Parliament who sought to obtain these bulbs for their constituency were also required to pay approximately J$3 million each. It is not clear to whom these additional funds were paid, if they were indeed paid.

                Very serious matter
                As of now based on the facts as stated in the media it is not a very serious matter!
                It is currently intriguing!

                Thorough investigation of the entire awarding of the contracts... - Where contracts even awarded? - and or purchase orders, 'directions/instructions' to deliver the bulbs to the people?

                Who physically 'drew' the purchase orders and or documents to effect distribution of the bulbs?

                The JLP's Clive Mullings has stated in sensational terms actions occurred that were questionable...that there was a cost to distribute the light bulbs that appears prohibitive.

                He also states that two companies were incorporated shortly before the distribution of the light bulbs. The companies he would have us belive were formed to take advantage of an opportunity to make money distributing those bulbs. Further he would have us believe the tenders for the distribution of the bulbs were not awarded through a government mandated solicitation for competing bids.

                OK! let us say all Mr. Mullings is saying is true. What steps should be taken and can be taken to retify the situation?

                Let us deal with what is not in the power of the government to be done! -

                Cannot dissolve the companies.

                Cannot find that forming companies to take advantage of opportunities to make money is illegal.

                So, what can be done? -
                1. Make public the history and structure of the companies, including listing the directors and officers.

                2. Make public any expertise the directors, officers and managers may have relevant to 'bulb distribution'.

                3. Make public all records - number of bulbs, how distributed and supporting documents on costs of that distribution, process through which invoices were submitted and payed, including who signed off on
                payment(s) - ...and, profit margin(s) and profits made.

                So the questions now arise -
                a) if there were proved that legal and or regulatory procedures were contravened?

                - take appropriate actions;

                b) if there were found that 'outrageous invoicing' occurred and sums already paid is considered adequate compensation for entire distribution?

                - pay not a penny more;

                c) if after the 'indepth JLP investigation' the charges were found to be unfounded, Clive Mullings and the JLP apologises...and for the JLP's sake an out-of-court settlement with the owners of the companies take place

                - settlement of remaining invoices take place...

                Untill there is substantiation of Clive Mullings' and by extension the JLP's politicking...there is nothing to hyperventilate about.

                Let us be real if the JLP leaders were serious and had not an intention of exploiting the matter for partisan reasons...quiet investigations would have been the order of the day and the matter of letting the chips fall where they may the end product.


                ...the really serious allegations going the rounds are that the principals in these companies have very close ties to a leading member of the PNP. If these allegations are true, it is a very serious matter indeed.
                What is serious about friends and or relatives of leading PNP members forming companies and gaining government contracts?

                Is not the current JLP now engaged in the very same thing...even as we speak?

                [ quote] The PNP, at the highest level needs to make a statement right now, and I mean today, stating clearly who the principals of these companies are and what connection, if any, such persons may have to leading PNP members. Anything less than a frank, full and prompt account will not do. The entire good name of the PNP is at stake here. Don't even think about pulling another 'know-nothing' Trafigura non-response. It will not work.

                [/quote]

                Nonsense!
                Let the investigations take place and then responses made. If the issue is hot air? Let it go!

                If it is not and persons are to go to jail and or otherwise puinished so be it!


                Some weeks ago, I pointed out that "over a period of 18 years, a lumpen army, large and small, has come to be dependent on the State for contracts, board appointments, jobs, security protection, insider information, contacts and privileges. Retaining control over the State is a matter of life and death for them." For this, I was roundly abused in some quarters. Well what do the 'tracers' have to say now?
                You may be right on that! So what do you say about every JLP "lumpen" now being appointed to some board or the other? Should we now be looking out for replacement of workers...running throughout the entire civil service and throughout quasi-government organisations...loss of jobs because workers are being considered and or labelled "lumpen" PNPites?



                No excuse

                There can be no excuse for ripping off the State. The argument frequently heard when the PNP was in power was that they were only doing what others had done before them. Usually, this was given a racial cast. It was said that all the large fortunes in Jamaica from slavery onwards had been obtained illicitly with the assistance of hefty government contracts, and that all that was happening was that the friends of the PNP were simply following a well-trod path.

                The difference, they insisted, was that previous parasites on the State were white, Chinese, Syrian and light-skinned while they were black. According to these 'black princes', when it was a matter of ethnic minority business parasitising on the state, there was no problem. But if black business persons did the very same thing, there was an outcry. In other words, the claim was that what one was objecting to was not corruption in general; what was bugging people was black corruption only.
                There is no excuse for riping off anyone and or any organisation - private or government!


                No substance

                This argument had a sufficient grain of truth to give it a superficial plausibility. But in reality, it had no substance.
                Make up your damn mind - "a grain of truth" or "has no substance"?!

                Without doubt, others from ethnic minorities had benefited greatly from state contracts. But anyone who imagined that the reason for the fortunes of some of these well-known families was corruption of the State is simply ignorant.
                There you go again with your damn - "Yes" and "No"! You state "Without a doubt..." these persons..."had ~ sic ~ benefited greatly"...then you state "NO"!

                You are one confused SOB!

                These people burned the midnight oil for years on end before they achieved what they have. They saved and re-invested their profits and did not foolishly splurge it on 'bling' as some in the black bourgeoisie are inclined to do. It took many of them several generations to reach where they have and there were many serious bumps along the road.
                You do know that both persons who live off what you described as actions that should not take place, namely "ripe-offs" and persons who work fairly at gaining wealth burn the midnight oil planning and working?

                Yet, for largely racial reasons, the myth persists in Jamaica that the light-skinned upper classes are simply a bunch of latter-day pirates. This is simply a self-serving justification used by the corrupt to justify their corruption.

                Such persons use legitimate grievances about wealth inequality and racial privilege in Jamaica not to reduce inequality for the mass, but to justify their attempts to acquire illicit personal wealth in as short a time as possible, by any means necessary.

                This mad rush to acquire wealth no matter how, has been the downfall of the former PNP regime. This is not simply because this approach fostered corruption. More important, it led the PNP to turn its back on the economic and social sufferings of its mass base and concentrate only on the enrichment of a small group of black princes. This was and is such a despicable exploitation of a genuine cause - that of the development of a real black bourgeoisie in Jamaica.
                Some persons ....and I would bet my last dollar it is not broadbased...but, merely a notion kept 'alive' by shallow persons such as yourself and certain sections of the media and others with various agendas?

                Made for 'nice fill' in your article didn't it?


                Instead of developing broad programmes to lift the entire small- and medium-size black business sector and its labour force to a higher level, cronyism and favouritism became the order of the day.
                Why do you not list some of those broadbased programs that are not currently being promoted?

                It wasn't even a matter of being PNP. One had to be a member of the charmed circle of insiders in order to be let in on the deals of the day.
                If what you are saying is, those who would commit "rip-offs" originate from all sections of the society - you got right!


                Now the chickens are coming home to roost on this wretched policy. More cases are likely in addition to the current one. At the same time, the issue of the needs of the small- and medium-size sector which is the same as the issue of the black bourgeoisie, remains unaddressed.

                CENTRAL ISSUE

                We should not allow the reality of corruption to distract us from this central issue. One of the main reasons for the political and economic instability of Jamaica is the fact that the Jamaican capitalist class continues to be largely drawn from the light-skinned elite. As that failed May 2005 protest of the PSOJ against crime at Emanci-pation Park proved, this business elite is viewed with great suspicion and even outright hostility by the mass of Jamaicans. This is largely because of race. If our bourgeoisie were blacker, this issue would be taken off the table and both our economic and our political life would become infinitely more stable.

                The potential to address this problem is right there before us. Jamaica is probably the only country in the Caribbean to have such a vibrant Black bourgeoisie in the making, many of them women, as recent studies have documented.

                We have an extremely hard working and talented group of black businesspersons - I call them the Hagley Park Road sector, after the area in which many of their businesses are located. Most of these persons toil against great odds to keep their business alive and to expand and develop. Many have had bitter experiences of discrimination on racial and class grounds when seeking credit and involved in other legitimate business pursuits. Largely for racial reasons they were excluded from the informal social networks in which the really big deals were made. Overcoming immense obstacles, some have done well but need help to do even better this group tends to be PNP, the vast majority do not have access to the sort of special privileges as in the light bulb case.

                While prosecuting those who indulge in corrupt practices to the fullest we should also adopt a more positive approach as well. We must open the door wide to help the mass of honest small and medium entrepreneurs so that the corrupt minority does not swamp us all.
                Your usual confusion! ...and, half-truths and lies - or, is it putting ignorance out there for all to see?

                i) "...chickens coming home to roost...?

                When has it ever been that inflated invoices, double invoices and or ripping-off has not occurred within both JLP's and PNP's administrations? ...and, do you really think it shall suddenly stop now?

                The chickens have been coming home to roost every night (in every government) since 1944. Search the pages of the archived Gleaner...and, please understand those reports are of those that make the pages of the Gleaner. Many a person...many persons, so called "small-persons" and "large-persons" are quietly fired and or "put out to pasture".

                ii) The idea...your perception...do not try to drag others of us in with you on that?...that the current 'light-skinned' commands the heights of commerce because of skin colour is in today's Jamaica based on a combination of factors - a) the head start some had through family connections of yesteryear - a normal human trait of sticking to family and relatives our "parson christen im pickney fus"; b) the inter-breeding of the races over time, whereby some of the present 'light-skinned' are as they are as a result of that process. They are 'nouveau riche'...in our parlance 'jus come'. They have worked their way up and they are out of that 'blending' I previously mentioned and have their much darker relatives moving up and on in lockstep with them;

                ...and...

                iii) ...you need to re-examine your stats and quote figures on the numbers of persons with dark skin who have moved into the "commanding heights" of the economy and our society.

                Your theory suggesting any Jamaican, in today's Jamaica is being kept out/kept back based solely on skin colour is FALSE!

                btw - Your Hagley Park Road analogy is nonsense. What of various other parts of Kingston and Saint Andrew, Mandeville, Montego Bay and other parts of the island where we are doing quite well thank you?
                Last edited by Karl; October 29, 2007, 08:29 AM.
                "Never doubt that a small group of thoughtful, committed citizens can change the world. Indeed, it is the only thing that ever has."

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                • #9
                  Mi nuh even feel sorry fi yuh.

                  Glad I do not have to compromise myself to such an extent.. there is a benefit for not belonging to a Cult with 'Core Values'

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                  • #10
                    It is often a term of endearment.

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by Karl View Post
                      Yes!

                      Are for freaking real??. If you reflect the thinking of the PNP be prepared for a long hiatus in opposition. Unbelievable. The writer accurately describes the failings of the PNP your criticisms are fluff without any substance. You remind me of the knee-jerk JLP defense of Tivoli back in the day. Like them you are doing your party no good with your head in the sand stance.

                      As of now based on the facts as stated in the media it is not a very serious matter!
                      It is currently intriguing!

                      Thorough investigation of the entire awarding of the contracts... - Where contracts even awarded? - and or purchase orders, 'directions/instructions' to deliver the bulbs to the people?

                      Who physically 'drew' the purchase orders and or documents to effect distribution of the bulbs?

                      The JLP's Clive Mullings has stated in sensational terms actions occurred that were questionable...that there was a cost to distribute the light bulbs that appears prohibitive.

                      He also states that two companies were incorporated shortly before the distribution of the light bulbs. The companies he would have us belive were formed to take advantage of an opportunity to make money distributing those bulbs. Further he would have us believe the tenders for the distribution of the bulbs were not awarded through a government mandated solicitation for competing bids.

                      OK! let us say all Mr. Mullings is saying is true. What steps should be taken and can be taken to retify the situation?

                      Let us deal with what is not in the power of the government to be done! -

                      Cannot dissolve the companies.

                      Cannot find that forming companies to take advantage of opportunities to make money is illegal.

                      So, what can be done? -
                      1. Make public the history and structure of the companies, including listing the directors and officers.

                      2. Make public any expertise the directors, officers and managers may have relevant to 'bulb distribution'.

                      3. Make public all records - number of bulbs, how distributed and supporting documents on costs of that distribution, process through which invoices were submitted and payed, including who signed off on
                      payment(s) - ...and, profit margin(s) and profits made.

                      So the questions now arise -
                      a) if there were proved that legal and or regulatory procedures were contravened?

                      - take appropriate actions;

                      b) if there were found that 'outrageous invoicing' occurred and sums already paid is considered adequate compensation for entire distribution?

                      - pay not a penny more;

                      c) if after the 'indepth JLP investigation' the charges were found to be unfounded, Clive Mullings and the JLP apologises...and for the JLP's sake an out-of-court settlement with the owners of the companies take place

                      - settlement of remaining invoices take place...

                      Untill there is substantiation of Clive Mullings' and by extension the JLP's politicking...there is nothing to hyperventilate about.

                      Let us be real if the JLP leaders were serious and had not an intention of exploiting the matter for partisan reasons...quiet investigations would have been the order of the day and the matter of letting the chips fall where they may the end product.




                      What is serious about friends and or relatives of leading PNP members forming companies and gaining government contracts?

                      Is not the current JLP now engaged in the very same thing...even as we speak?

                      [ quote] The PNP, at the highest level needs to make a statement right now, and I mean today, stating clearly who the principals of these companies are and what connection, if any, such persons may have to leading PNP members. Anything less than a frank, full and prompt account will not do. The entire good name of the PNP is at stake here. Don't even think about pulling another 'know-nothing' Trafigura non-response. It will not work.
                      Nonsense!
                      Let the investigations take place and then responses made. If the issue is hot air? Let it go!

                      If it is not and persons are to go to jail and or otherwise puinished so be it!




                      You may be right on that! So what do you say about every JLP "lumpen" now being appointed to some board or the other? Should we now be looking out for replacement of workers...running throughout the entire civil service and throughout quasi-government organisations...loss of jobs because workers are being considered and or labelled "lumpen" PNPites?




                      There is no excuse for riping off anyone and or any organisation - private or government!



                      Make up your damn mind - "a grain of truth" or "has no substance"?!



                      There you go again with your damn - "Yes" and "No"! You state "Without a doubt..." these persons..."had ~ sic ~ benefited greatly"...then you state "NO"!

                      You are one confused SOB!



                      You do know that both persons who live off what you described as actions that should not take place, namely "ripe-offs" and persons who work fairly at gaining wealth burn the midnight oil planning and working?



                      Some persons ....and I would bet my last dollar it is not broadbased...but, merely a notion kept 'alive' by shallow persons such as yourself and certain sections of the media and others with various agendas?

                      Made for 'nice fill' in your article didn't it?



                      Why do you not list some of those broadbased programs that are not currently being promoted?



                      If what you are saying is, those who would commit "rip-offs" originate from all sections of the society - you got right!



                      Your usual confusion! ...and, half-truths and lies - or, is it putting ignorance out there for all to see?

                      i) "...chickens coming home to roost...?

                      When has it ever been that inflated invoices, double invoices and or ripping-off has not occurred within both JLP's and PNP's administrations? ...and, do you really think it shall suddenly stop now?

                      The chickens have been coming home to roost every night (in every government) since 1944. Search the pages of the archived Gleaner...and, please understand those reports are of those that make the pages of the Gleaner. Many a person...many persons, so called "small-persons" and "large-persons" are quietly fired and or "put out to pasture".

                      ii) The idea...your perception...do not try to drag others of us in with you on that?...that the current 'light-skinned' commands the heights of commerce because of skin colour is in today's Jamaica based on a combination of factors - a) the head start some had through family connections of yesteryear - a normal human trait of sticking to family and relatives our "parson christen im pickney fus"; b) the inter-breeding of the races over time, whereby some of the present 'light-skinned' are as they are as a result of that process. They are 'nouveau riche'...in our parlance 'jus come'. They have worked their way up and they are out of that 'blending' I previously mentioned and have their much darker relatives moving up and on in lockstep with them;

                      ...and...

                      iii) ...you need to re-examine your stats and quote figures on the numbers of persons with dark skin who have moved into the "commanding heights" of the economy and our society.

                      Your theory suggesting any Jamaican, in today's Jamaica is being kept out/kept back based solely on skin colour is FALSE!

                      btw - Your Hagley Park Road analogy is nonsense. What of various other parts of Kingston and Saint Andrew, Mandeville, Montego Bay and other parts of the island where we are doing quite well thank you?[/QUOTE]

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