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  • #2
    Originally posted by Bricktop View Post

    Wonder how many bulbs and how many families/homes got?

    btw - How many residential houses are in Jamaica?
    Maudib? Mosiah?
    "Never doubt that a small group of thoughtful, committed citizens can change the world. Indeed, it is the only thing that ever has."

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    • #3
      Originally posted by Karl View Post
      Wonder how many bulbs and how many families/homes got?

      btw - How many residential house are in Jamaica? Maudib? mosiah?
      IT WASN'T SUPPOSE TO COST ANYTHING. NOW WE LOOKING AT A $280 MILLION BILL.
      "Jamaica's future reflects its past, having attained only one per cent annual growth over 30 years whilst neighbours have grown at five per cent." (Article)

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      • #4
        Divide the population by 5 and you get 540,000.

        That covers retirees and families, single people and tenament yards. A good base numver would be 500K, so 4m bulbs would be 8 per household.

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        • #5
          Mi nuh know.. all mi know mi nevah get none and mi inna Kingston 10..

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          • #6
            So, the people who distribute these bulbs were going to take care of their own transportation, housing and meals?


            BLACK LIVES MATTER

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            • #7
              Nuh St. Andrew country yuh live?


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              • #8
                Plus there were also going to be some kind of storage costs. That is a lot of bulbs.

                But over $100 million with no documentation of costs? Bwoy that nuh sound right.
                "‎It is easier to build strong children than to repair broken men" - Frederick Douglass

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                • #9
                  Related article from the Gleaner in May.

                  Apparently there were some concerns about the distribution process from that time.

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                  http://www.jamaica-gleaner.com/glean...ead/lead9.html

                  Ja to earn $160m in 'carbon credits' - Gov't
                  published: Sunday | May 20, 2007


                  Four million energy-saving light bulbs, or compact fluorescent lamps, are being distributed freely to householders islandwide
                  under the Jamaica-Cuban Energy-Saving Project. Jamaica alsostands to earn millions of dollars in carbon credits.

                  Government expects to earn Jamaica $160 million in 'carbon credits' from its joint energy-saving light bulb project
                  with Cuba, but according to one local expert, that figure should be many times more.
                  Cuba donated four million of the bulbs, also known as compact fluorescent lamps (CFLs), to Jamaica which are
                  being distributed free of charge to households islandwide.
                  Minister of Industry, Technology, Energy and Commerce Phillip Paulwell maintains the US$160 million, arrived at
                  by consultants currently tendering for 'the Jamaica-Cuban Energy-Saving Project', is a "conservative" projection.
                  But that figure could reach US$8 million (J$545 million), according to Mikael Oerbekke, principal of Eco-Tec, the
                  first entity to sell carbon credits from Jamaica earned by its distribution of 80,000 CFLs to north-coast hotels.

                  Conservative projection

                  Eco-Tec's projection is also conservative, says Oerbekke.
                  The Bluefields, Westmoreland-based company was previously in discussions over the Government project, but
                  withdrew its interest, concerned that credits might not be verifiable based on what it claims was inadequate
                  documentation of the distribution, being carried out by joint teams of Jamaican volunteers and Cuban social
                  workers. The ministry denies this, maintaining that 'not one bulb' will be unaccounted for.
                  Eco-Tec believes US$8 million (J$545 million) can be earned from the project, a projection which is also
                  conservative, says Mr. Oerbekke. That projection is based on a projected megawatt saving to the national grid of
                  59.4 - this is 20 MW less than the 80MW on which the ministry's figure is based.
                  Oerbekke also says Eco-Tec managed to find a buyer, impressed with his company's initial project. He says his
                  buyer was prepared to pay US$650,000 (J$44 million) for just over 300,000 bulbs.
                  Government has previously earned credits, via a deal with the Netherlands, from its Wigton Wind Farm, which is
                  being privatised. The Netherlands bought the credits to offset their greenhouse gas emission targets set by the
                  United Nations (U.N.) Kyoto Protocol Clean Development Mechanism (CDM) in 1997.
                  In the three years since it began operations in April 2004, the Government-owned Wigton Wind Farm in
                  Manchester has sold €424,763 (J$39 million) of credits. A further €251,490 (J$23 million) generated in the past
                  year is yet to be verified.
                  ross.sheil@gleanerjm.com
                  "‎It is easier to build strong children than to repair broken men" - Frederick Douglass

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                  • #10
                    Unnu claim unnuh ah go in
                    fi fix economy, reduce crime, give free education and make the populace wealthy. Now unnuh ah come bout light bulb. Can somebody tell teh JLP that they are in govt.? hey you won. Now get Ja to first world status.

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                    • #11
                      LOL! Therapy Jawge. It can work wonders.
                      "‎It is easier to build strong children than to repair broken men" - Frederick Douglass

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                      • #12
                        Used tuh.. cyaan tek di long driving...

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                        • #13
                          Yes, not saying that we should be able to account for all that money, but distribution must have cost something.


                          BLACK LIVES MATTER

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                          • #14
                            Yuh gwine move forward with a compromised vehicle ?

                            Need to root out di contaminants and set an example to discourage new ones... who are the accomplices and what positions do they hold currently...

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