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    As with Jamaica, it seems like the authority love debate and do nothing.


    I think simple actions are needed.

    ISSA need to set up a committee that monitor all transfer of athletes.

    They set citeria such as basic grades
    and request a letter or document from parents or guardians for the reason for transfer.

    Once a player has represented a school transfers have to go through this committee.

    It should also be accompanied by approval from prinicipal and coaches of the school the student is requesting to leave.

    The committee then weigh it and make the decision.


    Another thing they could do is have D1 and D2 schools and allow transfers from D2 but not within D1 schools snce all the D1 schools would be considered to be elite schools in a particular sport.
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    [quote=Assasin;401218]As with Jamaica, it seems like the authority love debate and do nothing.


    I think simple actions are needed.

    ISSA need to set up a committee that monitor all transfer of athletes.
    Do you think the same is needed for 'academic transfers'?

    They set citeria such as basic grades
    and request a letter or document from parents or guardians for the reason for transfer.
    I would think such is done not just for students who happen to be good at a sport but for all transfers! The teachers are managing schools, not sports clubs!

    Once a player has represented a school transfers have to go through this committee.
    I am sure this happens. ..and the committee mayeven be
    a committee of 1...
    ...the principal or designate or...???!!!


    It should also be accompanied by approval from prinicipal and coaches of the school the student is requesting to leave.
    That may be fine...but it should never be an inviolate requirement. After all is said it is merely a child being removed from a school by parent(s)/guardian(s) and application being made for acceptance by another school.

    The only rigid requirement is an acceptance of the child by the school which the parent(s)/guardian(s) wishes the child to attend.




    Another thing they could do is have D1 and D2 schools and allow transfers from D2 but not within D1 schools snce all the D1 schools would be considered to be elite schools in a particular sport.
    So you wish to set up a 'legal system' of enforcing discrimination? I do not think so!!!
    Last edited by Karl; January 12, 2013, 03:24 PM.
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    • #3
      Karl, did you see the excerpt that I posted in the original thread in this topic? It got moved to the School Sports forum.
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      • #4
        I agree with most of those ideas in principle. However I don't think the school that is losing the student should have any say in the approval unless its some kind of disciplinary issue.

        I think there is already some processing place to monitor grades of athletes.
        "‎It is easier to build strong children than to repair broken men" - Frederick Douglass

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        • #5
          I also find Karl's post to be intriguing because it certainly establishes the outcry from athletic transfers are justified only if that same outcry exists regarding academic transfers.

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          • #6
            Clearly.

            Too much energy on the sports transfer and not enuff on improving academic standards.

            Samfie from Thwaites...Distraction from the main event, which is the failing skools.

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            • #7
              If forced to choose, give me the academics before the sports any day of the week!


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              • #8
                Originally posted by Assasin View Post
                As with Jamaica, it seems like the authority love debate and do nothing.


                I think simple actions are needed.

                ISSA need to set up a committee that monitor all transfer of athletes.

                They set citeria such as basic grades
                and request a letter or document from parents or guardians for the reason for transfer.

                Once a player has represented a school transfers have to go through this committee.

                It should also be accompanied by approval from prinicipal and coaches of the school the student is requesting to leave.

                The committee then weigh it and make the decision.


                Another thing they could do is have D1 and D2 schools and allow transfers from D2 but not within D1 schools snce all the D1 schools would be considered to be elite schools in a particular sport.
                No. The principal and coach of the outgoing school cannot overide a parent's decision. This is not a professional league! The best ISSA can do is to set limits on the number of transfer players that can be on the field during a match. 3 to 4 maximum transfers players on the field seems reasonable to me. They could also set age limits for 5th formers, set academic standards for 6th formers. .
                The same type of thinking that created a problem cannot be used to solve the problem.

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by Time View Post
                  No. The principal and coach of the outgoing school cannot overide a parent's decision. This is not a professional league! The best ISSA can do is to set limits on the number of transfer players that can be on the field during a match. 3 to 4 maximum transfers players on the field seems reasonable to me. They could also set age limits for 5th formers, set academic standards for 6th formers. .
                  Nope Wulmaz United....only 3-4 TOTAL transferees in the squad. Figget dat foolfool on the field bizniz

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                  Last edited by Don1; January 15, 2013, 12:34 PM.
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                  • #10
                    Its not that hard.. If you transfer you have to sit out a season and must have a passing grade. Simply enough.. I think student should aspire to go to good schools but at the same time too much kids get used by the big schools and no education and actually take away a education spot from a kid who may not be a baller. I heard georges had 10 transfers in the team that won.. not saying nothing but as Capleton says.. a how dem gwan like dem good suh....

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by OJ View Post
                      Its not that hard.. If you transfer you have to sit out a season and must have a passing grade. Simply enough.. I think student should aspire to go to good schools but at the same time too much kids get used by the big schools and no education and actually take away a education spot from a kid who may not be a baller. I heard georges had 10 transfers in the team that won.. not saying nothing but as Capleton says.. a how dem gwan like dem good suh....
                      That is not enuff. The one year exclusion is already in effect (except for 6th Form which is now open so it nah werk dehsuh). Plus so called "good schools" generally have academic qualifiers for players.

                      More is clearly needed...strict quotas is the simplest and most effective reform. Allow some movement to facilitate kids but limit the wholesale gaming of the system.
                      TIVOLI: THE DESTRUCTION OF JAMAICA'S EVIL EMPIRE

                      Recognizing the victims of Jamaica's horrendous criminality and exposing the Dummies like Dippy supporting criminals by their deeds.. or their silence.

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                      • #12
                        i saw a panel on impact discussing this. So explain to me how this is failing.. The players are sitting out the year and then playing. If so what more can you fairly ask for.. I mean I have heard the argument that usain bolt stayed at william Knibb and became world class but they may be others who would have said move to a calabar to meet your needs. I think it needs balance.. I would not say kids should not transfer but hey look at our forum bredin Colour who essentially transfer from Tichfielf to Steths to Munro.. I think there should be some freedom in the players moving but maybe as you said limit the amount of transfer a school can accept in a window so for example to build on your suggestion a school can have only 7 incoming transfer in a two year period for any sports.

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                        • #13
                          ll I know is dat some limits are called for...the details I leave up to the people in the system there
                          TIVOLI: THE DESTRUCTION OF JAMAICA'S EVIL EMPIRE

                          Recognizing the victims of Jamaica's horrendous criminality and exposing the Dummies like Dippy supporting criminals by their deeds.. or their silence.

                          D1 - Xposing Dummies since 2007

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                          • #14
                            LOL
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                            • #15
                              Is the 6th form loophole being exploited, meaning are students being placed in 6th form even though they would not normally qualify?

                              Honest question, just asking...

                              Are these players legitmate 6th formers in other words? If they are and qualify for Wolmers 6th form based on CSEC passes I have no problem.

                              Hot favourites to cop the coveted urban area Manning Cup and knockout double, and the national Olivier Shield, Wolmer's will enter the contest with an unbeaten record.

                              Coached by Ludlow Bernard, the team will also have in their line-up national senior team representative Jorginho James who, along two others - defender Tazio Gilpin and midfielder Jason Greenland - moved from KC to Wolmer's sixth form in September
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