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  • #16
    To each his own but as far as I am concerned,the primary objective of the JFF is to identify worthy talents from our local pool and showcase those players so that foreign clubs may offer them lucrative contracts,in that regard Holland has done well.

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    • #17
      So what are you saying? We shouldn't have a programme? Did you see what the Belgians have done? if you want to cite programmes. It's not by chance that a small (relatively) nation is producing such good footballers with a competitive team. If you put any faith or credence in FIFA ranking, they're 2nd right now!

      http://www.fifa.com/fifa-world-ranki...men/index.html
      Yes, it has been pointed out that all countries are not equally gifted with the same financial resources, but our "programme" is really non-existent. Belgium's rise is coincidental with a planned approach to developing their home-grown talent. While we may not replicate what they have done, why can't we at least try? with what little we have?
      Peter R

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      • #18
        Originally posted by Peter R View Post
        So what are you saying? We shouldn't have a programme? Did you see what the Belgians have done? if you want to cite programmes. It's not by chance that a small (relatively) nation is producing such good footballers with a competitive team. If you put any faith or credence in FIFA ranking, they're 2nd right now!

        http://www.fifa.com/fifa-world-ranki...men/index.html
        Yes, it has been pointed out that all countries are not equally gifted with the same financial resources, but our "programme" is really non-existent. Belgium's rise is coincidental with a planned approach to developing their home-grown talent. While we may not replicate what they have done, why can't we at least try? with what little we have?
        Righteous
        TIVOLI: THE DESTRUCTION OF JAMAICA'S EVIL EMPIRE

        Recognizing the victims of Jamaica's horrendous criminality and exposing the Dummies like Dippy supporting criminals by their deeds.. or their silence.

        D1 - Xposing Dummies since 2007

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        • #19
          Another point. Haiti exposed Ecuador, the same way the US exposed Colombia.
          Haiti's weakness is fitness and too much touches on the ball. What I see as more games are being played; is that it's the same top two from S. America the rest are pretenders. Ask Winnie or Klinsman (they wouldn't say it publicly though

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          • #20
            Easier to hand out Jamaican passports to worthy Brazilian, Spaniard and Dutch players.


            BLACK LIVES MATTER

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            • #21
              Originally posted by Reggaedoc View Post
              Does the reliance on youth development really take a country as far as it wants to go?. Think about it, Turkey and Holland have the best youth football development programs in the world, but have they won any senior, or for that matter, age group competitions?. I am not sure that a youth program will get us any further. Just a thought.
              You are asking Mosiah to think....

              The only time TRUTH will hurt you...is if you ignore it long enough

              HL

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              • #22
                Originally posted by Peter R View Post
                So what are you saying? We shouldn't have a programme? Did you see what the Belgians have done? if you want to cite programmes. It's not by chance that a small (relatively) nation is producing such good footballers with a competitive team. If you put any faith or credence in FIFA ranking, they're 2nd right now!

                http://www.fifa.com/fifa-world-ranki...men/index.html
                Yes, it has been pointed out that all countries are not equally gifted with the same financial resources, but our "programme" is really non-existent. Belgium's rise is coincidental with a planned approach to developing their home-grown talent. While we may not replicate what they have done, why can't we at least try? with what little we have?
                Belgium has a football culture that goes back close to a century. Jamaica doesn't, although some of us erroneously think we do.

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                • #23
                  Originally posted by Peter R View Post
                  So what are you saying? We shouldn't have a programme? Did you see what the Belgians have done? if you want to cite programmes. It's not by chance that a small (relatively) nation is producing such good footballers with a competitive team. If you put any faith or credence in FIFA ranking, they're 2nd right now!

                  http://www.fifa.com/fifa-world-ranki...men/index.html
                  Yes, it has been pointed out that all countries are not equally gifted with the same financial resources, but our "programme" is really non-existent. Belgium's rise is coincidental with a planned approach to developing their home-grown talent. While we may not replicate what they have done, why can't we at least try? with what little we have?
                  Belgium has a population of nearly 12 million.

                  The prospective pool of possible players is greater than a country with what 3.5 million?

                  Jamaica needs all the help it can get.

                  Snowaz are here to stay....get use to it.
                  The only time TRUTH will hurt you...is if you ignore it long enough

                  HL

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                  • #24
                    Originally posted by Mosiah View Post
                    Easier to hand out Jamaican passports to worthy Brazilian, Spaniard and Dutch players.
                    Yes, if that is what it takes to cultivate a winning football culture, the rest could follow after that.

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                    • #25
                      These population stats have no bearing on what a country can do! Jamaica's same 3.5M (your number, google says 2.7) has more per capita olympic t&f medals than almost every country in the world!

                      The English speaking (cricket playing countries) dominated world cricket for 20 years with a population of less than 10million, against countries like India with almost 600-800M (at the time).

                      T&T qualified for WC in 2006 with 1.3 (or less) and with a good 30% being more interested in cricket than football (at the highest level)... and with ONE snow balla in their squad.

                      You know the population of Uruguay? Same as the JA figure you quoted!

                      So where does that leave your population argument?

                      If I follow it, China and India should wenna mash it up in world football!

                      Better yuh stick wid Reggaedoc argument about a football culture!

                      Once you have a population of 11, you can compete!!!
                      Peter R

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                      • #26
                        Is that a prediction or a wish ?

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                        • #27
                          Yow me no like how talk yuh a talk so sensically all eveling. A must CBAR yuh used to go.
                          Hey .. look at the bright side .... at least you're not a Liverpool fan! - Lazie 2/24/10 Paul Marin -19 is one thing, 20 is a whole other matter. It gets even worse if they win the UCL. *groan*. 05/18/2011.MU fans naah cough, but all a unuh a vomit?-Lazie 1/11/2015

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                          • #28
                            Thorough!

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                            • #29
                              The guy is a self-confessed football dunce...suh yuh affi si wid im
                              TIVOLI: THE DESTRUCTION OF JAMAICA'S EVIL EMPIRE

                              Recognizing the victims of Jamaica's horrendous criminality and exposing the Dummies like Dippy supporting criminals by their deeds.. or their silence.

                              D1 - Xposing Dummies since 2007

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                              • #30
                                Originally posted by Peter R View Post
                                These population stats have no bearing on what a country can do! Jamaica's same 3.5M (your number, google says 2.7) has more per capita olympic t&f medals than almost every country in the world!

                                The English speaking (cricket playing countries) dominated world cricket for 20 years with a population of less than 10million, against countries like India with almost 600-800M (at the time).

                                T&T qualified for WC in 2006 with 1.3 (or less) and with a good 30% being more interested in cricket than football (at the highest level)... and with ONE snow balla in their squad.

                                You know the population of Uruguay? Same as the JA figure you quoted!

                                So where does that leave your population argument?

                                If I follow it, China and India should wenna mash it up in world football!

                                Better yuh stick wid Reggaedoc argument about a football culture!

                                Once you have a population of 11, you can compete!!!
                                Yes I fully understand. All good points.

                                But if you are going to suggest that jamaica should copy Belgium's approach. ..ONE reason for their success in football is they have nearly 4x the number prospective players in their pool.

                                Pool depth may not be a factor for success but it plays a significant part.

                                Yes, there are instances where pool size is not a factor, but it counts as a ONE OF THE factor in the majority of cases.

                                As far as football culture, Jamaica is more a cricket and t&f culture.................
                                The only time TRUTH will hurt you...is if you ignore it long enough

                                HL

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