Need some info on JFF & ISSA, and how/if they

[Time]

ISSA does not attempt to develop the game. Each high school does it own thing and perhaps only the traditional high schools have a written plan of what they want to achieve in about five years. ISSA power lies in the fact that they control the most popular football competitions in Jamaica and therefore attracts the sponsors and the players. A former JFF Technical Director, Professor Rene Simoes saw those high school competitions as threats to the national program and believes that they should be replaced by youth competitions not linked to high schools. However, there is not much support for such a minor league and no one in the JFF would dare to try to ban high school football.

[Stonigut]

Wow, suh that is what it tek tuh mek yuh feel good?? Hug it up and feel good den!!

[Don1]

When mi bun out a guy folly til im affi tek whe imself.....ah juss Jah Works dat

Now kip yuh likkle self quiat

[Stonigut]

Again, is not an all or nothing approach, the issue comes back to resources and the truth is that the Jff does not have the resources to develop all of football in Jamaica, it is a lofty goal that is truly just aiming at the skies. Even the big countries in football do not have federations that truly encompass all of footbal in their countries.
It is a joint lift and many of the good football countries have good leagues with financially self sufficient clubs, we are not in that position, the muscles of the Jff through parish fa's is not strong and the clubs in the parish fa are not financially strong so then how do you do real grassroots/youth development?
You work with existing infrastructure, what better infrastructure do we have than our school system in Jamaica from primary through tertiarty, and the reach is pretty extensive.
If Jff can build the knowledge infrastructure and disseminate through schools, work with the teachers colleges, gc foster and the teacher producing institutions to rollout the Jff knowledge program basics through this existing structure we have just made a quantum jump from where we are today.

We must look at context and develop based on existing resources, existing infrastructure and put together a program that is sustainable and not pie in the sky approach, as we have learned great intentions without resources is just babble.

[Assasin]

very good talk sir

Heard from good source a few years ago that Ricketts intend to have a goal keeper academy when he finish playing. He will train the goalies and then have them play in school boy football and NPL but the most important thing is he will be working with them consistently and he has asked his friend and former coach Paul Campbell to be involved. The goal is to try to get them into professional clubs.

This is the kind of initiative we need to support. Some people just chat, we need more private and public involvement.

[Don1]

LOL! So while ISSA is transforming "football culture"...

Disingenuous yappin' Snowi

Your ting is to support Snowball to the Nth degree. You've gone so far in your madcap Snowball scheming as to construct a very quixotic & massively detailed statistical matrix which totally negates the value of JA-based players...whether they undergo development or not.

Your insane Snow Matrix effectively debars locals from playing for JA...just because they're based in JA

So in your terribly muddled thinking Jamaican players should go into a dev program knowing that they have NO CHANCE at national selection...unless they get some foreign assignment or the other. Of course this is absolute madness which no country practices...and none ever will
This is a case of someone being thoroughly confused by the value of statistics

If you're to be intellectually honest you need to either disavow your insane Snow Matrix OR this new-found (apparent) appreciation for developing locals.

You CANNOT have it both ways....D1 is here to ensure your fatally con-flicted con job merely entraps people like Johnny & Head Light HL....not more evolved folks

[Stonigut]

Yeah man, context and reality over daydreams and triviality!

[Don1]

Snowi's Daydreams & Trivia: Exhibit 1

=Stonigut;


First as discussed in (RTB II) we looked at player commitment and work ethic as evidenced through ratios of matches played, minutes played and yellow and red card issued deducted from that score. What we are looking for here is durability through a season and all that comes with that, consistency, constant communication across the organization, being a leader, ability to consistently make your team believe you must play in order for the team to be consistently successful. Thus the more matches played, the more minutes played per match heightens the score, with a maximum theoretical score of 1



The second area is actual average performance over the entire club season, goals scored, assists, team goal differential ratio(GDR) are the key stats, with the weighted breakout differing based onposition. Thus forwards would be weighted higher on goals scored, their primary duty, with assists and GDR in that order.

In midfield assists are first with goals then DGR, but with GDR playing a more significant role in the midfielders score.

On the defenders side the focus is on broken out more evenly with GDR being the highest weighted factor.

The last factor coming into play will be shots on goal versus shots taken statistics to determine accuracy, consistency and soundness of mind in play as when you look at the top players that average is always above 50% when you look at many of our players when we get the statistics it is consistently below 35% which suggest poor decisions or discipline, rash impulsive action as well as poor practice which results in poor execution in this area, wasting valuable team chances at critical times.



The third and probably most controversial area is how do we get an apples to apples comparison of our players across the leagues they play. Here is what will be done here.

1. Premier leagues of every country will start with a 50% score whether it is Andorran premier league or it is EPL the first division (that is, premier division in the country) of every country starts with that amount. The second and third divisions below that in every country get 10% deducted for every level below, we are not considering any player on any club below English league two which is the fourth division, just deduct 20 % of that base 50% number so Championship starts with 40%, ELO 1 starts with 32 % that ELO2 starts with 26%, and, in actually running the statistics between the mid tier teams of each division in England versus the penultimate drop group in each group to determine roughly the difference between leagues the number is roughly comparable with what is suggested here when going from EPL to CL to ELO1 etc thus 20% drop of each base number % below 50% for each drop is as good a gauge as I could derive at this time, open to suggestions on a better way to assign the drop in level with each division .

2. Any league that is professional gets another 10% added to their initial score, professional league from this standpoint means that the average salary of a player in the league is greater than the rough average of the ten highest per capita income countries average which is roughly about $50K US, thus ELO2 makes that standard. (See English football wages by Ahmed Bilal)

3. We consider the quality of football played by the country in which the league resides and for this we use the world cup as the standard, we look at the last 6 cups, that is 24 years to give us a goodwide understanding for the potential quality of ball played in that country, so any country that has made the world cup in the last 6 cups their leagues get another 10%.

4. On the world cup front again, here we lift the standard to a higher level, any country that has made semifinals of the worldcup in the last 6 cups gets another 10% and this benefits all leagues in that country.

5. Next we come to league quality, that is determined by two things, the first is any league that a club that has made it to the club semifinals of their world cup continental group in the last six years gets another 10% and any league that has a club that makes it to the semifinals of the world club championships gets another 10%.

In summary here is what this looks like EPL gets 100% or ascore of 1.0, Brazil serie A would also get 100% or a score of 1.0, English ELO2 would get 56% or .56 score, Jamaica NPL would get 60% or .60, MLS would get 80% or .80, Costa Rica first division would get 70% or .7 as they have made it to the Concacaf region club semifinals levels, Norway ‘s Tippeligaen would come in at 70% or .7.



Lastly is the ranking of the team within the league of play, with the emphasis being on tempering high individual contribution levels on poor teams and ensuring solid contribution on excellent teams gets due consideration. This is based totally on the win, loss and draw record as a% as well so wins are 1 point, draws are .25 point and losses are 0, thus we are emphasizing wins as a premium and draws get something but we de-emphasize their importance relative to how we score them in regular league play at 33% or.33.



Overall the greatest weight is given to commitment and performance scores, the true individual contribution to performance, then league score then team performance within league score in that sequence.



At the end of the day if we can get the statistics of the players, especially on the Jamaican side where many of these stats are not complied kept up with or even discussed, we want to open this side of our football culture so we are measuring performance across the board and we can see how our domestic players stack up, against our locals playing abroad, against diaspora players and ultimately against the best of the best, the best forwards, Ronaldo, Messi etc, the best midfielders, Sneijder, Xavi, Kaka or best defenders Maicon , Terry etc.



Next the ranking of our players across leagues based on performance.

And D1's brilliantly insightful riposte

Don1
This is a great statistical model ... for a Fantasy League played on paper in Virtual Rum Bars across the Werl

Let's develop an app for this and make some money!!!

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