Today Klopp learns who can play vs who getting payed!

[Paul Marin]

X tell me off-the-air that Klopp is a better coach than Rafa

Ha ha ha ha...now we know sey you a jink too much a dat sorrel...de one you wife lace wid white rum. Wooooooooiiiiiiieeeeeee...enjoy u Xmas.

[Peter R]

He's on the other side of the room, painted himself into a corner and waiting for the paint to dry. By then, maybe all of this will have passed.

[Gamma]

Not one response from X to this thread. Nth at is so unlike him

[Jangle]

X tell me off-the-air that Klopp is a better coach than Rafa

[Stonigut]

Truth is the goalie screwing up and skrtel being outhustled by Ighalo and cans mistake are tough to take but truly the real eye opener was the lack of conviction, lack of enterprise and hustle, where were Coutinho and firmino today, they were Mia if this was war they would get court martialed for going awol!! The Igahlo goal was amazing and in 99.99 % of the times Skrtels action was more than sufficient but Ighalo is another type of player.

[Paul Marin]

The key issue today was it exposed players who rely on passionless opponents, that four that pool dropped on mcity doesn't count for much as mcity played without any conviction there and have been playing thusly recently.

This is why I love aggressive defenses and pressing the opponent as it creates an unusual dynamic and gets even the most skilled player, tentative and unsure, Watford showed that Klopp need to get passionless players off that squad.

I completely agree. I asked X a question about the difference between how we played to day and how we played under rodgers - then I started to answer the question in anticipation of his tripe (not trhype ) I've posted it here instead.

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...my concern remains the same - the players just are NOT doing the business. You can't blame the manager for Bogdan dropping the ball, or for Can frigging up on the 3rd goal, or Skrtel allowing the forward to out muscle him on the second. The fact of the matter is that we don't have ANYONE that can score from midfield, nor are we doing what we need to do to create chances for our forwards. Our overall play lacks the passion we were accustomed to when Gerrard bossed the midfield. Klopp needs to go shopping!

[Stonigut]

The key issue today was it exposed players who rely on passionless opponents, that four that pool dropped on mcity doesn't count for much as mcity played without any conviction there and have been playing thusly recently.

This is why I love aggressive defenses and pressing the opponent as it creates an unusual dynamic and gets even the most skilled player, tentative and unsure, Watford showed that Klopp need to get passionless players off that squad.

[Stonigut]

It is not just sloppy, it is a lack of energy, a lack of conviction, a lack of courage, As I have always contended Coytinho is most overrated played outside of Chicharito, when the time gets tough they disappear. I love the way Igahlo play ball, he us so passionate and driven, always driving to get his shot off, almost Suarezlike, we can't find a few of those for Jamaica.

[Peter R]

Goal drought! and having to chase goals leaves the defence exposed! How soon before Sturridge is fit? The problem of a twenty goal scorer when there are no goals is a huge problem that JK will have to try and address during the transfer window!

We need to rise above the -2 GD we now find ourselves in.

[Peter R]

Ok boss... well none a dem fi get no Crismus bonus, ham nor turkey!!

[Paul Marin]

Watford playing possessed!!

Deserved win by Watford. A good example of "doing more with less". Wheel an tun my side...practice everyday this week including Christmas morning 6:00AM. See unu pon the fields. We have work to do.

[Stonigut]

A play on words Higgins, a play on words!! on 'ay' on both, paid is correct form but payed is also used occasionally with somewhat similar intent. In this case the title would not have conveyed the idea quite as well as I intended with 'play vs paid' relative to 'play vs payed'....ok you got me!!!

[Paul Marin]

..and possession... and outplaying us on all fronts!

I rushed home to watch the match, got here ten minutes in to see us one down.. and now two?!

But there is the second half... Jesus at the Kontrols...

Could you clarify your thread lead-in..." vs. who getting "payed" (sic) Is that supposed to be a play on "paid" or did you leave out an "l"?

Just curious

we are playing way way too sloppy. It is horrible. JK better give some a dem some in them headback. Sloppy in all areas to be honest - forward, midfield, defense. Not good enough.

[Paul Marin]

But Jesus in Kontrol now but he's not following script.

Those empty barrels that usually make so much noise are silent... cyaan seh sh!t cause they put so much pressure and expectations on the manager without any serious thought.

Wiser and saner heads understand that JK needs time and therefore no meaningful evaluation can be made of his tenure at this time. The two goals , well the first was a disaster, and the second the mid field effed up!

Let' see what period two brings... Go LFC!

We can get something out of this...Bogdan redemtion - save 1 v 1 - really great. I remember him when he was playing with Bibi at Bolton, good journeyman keeper; sorry he made that mistake, it put us in a big hole.

[Peter R]

But Jesus in Kontrol now but he's not following script.

Those empty barrels that usually make so much noise are silent... cyaan seh sh!t cause they put so much pressure and expectations on the manager without any serious thought.

Wiser and saner heads understand that JK needs time and therefore no meaningful evaluation can be made of his tenure at this time. The two goals , well the first was a disaster, and the second the mid field effed up!

Let' see what period two brings... Go LFC!