Big Bad Usa Like I said the USA

[Time]

Dwayne could have done a business marriage to a Jamaican. What do you tek this thing for? Business marriage to Jamaican a real runnings

[Tilla]

Who can talk after Chung-Fah. When th good Captain was interested in starting a serious campaign for the 1998 World Cup, he said it could not be done.

Anyway OJ, you have made some good points.

[Tilla]

You know OJ, I was thinking today that Julian DeGuzman may not have been a player to make the Jamaican side back in the day. The thing is, his development has continued. Look at Kelly who is more or less lost from the game. It is a damn shame.

[Mosiah]

I think it's easy to feel that the local (Jamaican) football "gurus" messed up when they "ignore" people who have gone on to "great" things elsewhere. (Please excuse the Karlesque "quotations".) The list is long - De Guzman (perhaps), Cunningham, Wolde Harris (yes, he played for us a little bit), one or two who play for the USA now, and we could go on. But I think this happens all over the world and is not necessarily a reflection on the "guru" status of any official.

A lot of things are at play. Players can have really ordinary trials, no fault of their own, but perhaps how the trial was structured while they were there. An off first day can doom the rest of your trial by placing you with the scrubs when next you scrimmage. They coaches might not have been looking for that type of player right there and then.

I think it happens on both sides where the USA also turns away players who were actually good. Good to know that someone like Wolde is not bitter about his short association with the national program.

I think we need to give players more than one tryout but because we don't have a continuous program, we are usually rushing to look at the next player or just get a team together that we don't have time for second chances. Because certainly, I think there is/was good quality in Cunningham, Wolde, Nicholas Addlery and others who I can't remember right now.

[Tilla]

You have made some good points and I agree. Still what have you to say on how we seem to have lost the talent of KK?

[Redz]

This is the team we should be worried about, maybe you should be worried about them I would never get caught up in the hype remember we are in the USA & they can make some people believe what ever they want them to some people that is not all.

Like I said there are 3 1/2 places available when qualifiers come around. Like I said before if you hear some music over & over then you will begin to like it I find myself singing chicken noodle soup sometimes what silly song do you sing oh you are just hypnotized by the hype the is MLS & US Soccer.

This is not friendly games nor Concacaf qualifying or the Gold Cup these are real referees. This was one of the best ref's I have seen in a long time he was very fair.

The Korean's should have won by 4 clear goals they were that much better than the USA. Like I also said before no one is going to sit back & watch the USA get better they may have you think that if you have your eyes & ears closed.

Also these teams have it harder than the USA because they dont get breaks in thier qualifying & that is a big advantage.

Remember this also the Roman Army finally started to get defeated everywhere & were chased out all over the World when they started to hire mercenaries paid fighters this is another problem for the USA start to develop your own true talents 7 players on this team are none US they grew up in other countries & honed their skills thier & when they came to the USA they were in their own ethnic communities.

They will always lack the fight of these other countries that grew up in their own country & therefore have something that you can never buy.

If you ever get a chance to speak to Altidore you will hear he wishes he could have played for Haiti he hangs out with Wycleff allot & his heart is with Haiti. I must say also Fredy Adou should not be the Captain of this team this kid Bradley should be the Captain.

[Zeppo]

We have natual skills we dont need anyone from any where else & yea 7 players on the USA's under 20 team are Jamaican born & bred went to high school there & were all scooted by the USA colleges & came here to go to school then the USA drafted them into thier team some were even drafted from high schools here after getting scholoships to attend high schools in the US.

Name them.

[Karl]

Redz thats not True, Julian left Canada at 16 to France. He is from my previous club so take this not as fact but as someone who reasonalbe know the kid and his parents. At this time he was not part of the Canadian setup. He is a short kid mabe shorter than Jermanie Hue but powerful legs. He was being overlooked and at a camp with Chung Fah they broached the subject of him playing for JA. to which the now infamous words of winston was.. I can find one of him on any corner a Jamaica.

Chung-Fah might have been correct...but, herein lies the problem, what are we doing with our talent?

No proper teaching/coaching!
No continuation in continuous teaching/coaching system!
No NATIONAL TEAM PROGRAM - a 'stop-start-stop' type thing is NONSENSE!

Soooo our talent stagnate! ...or, die! ...perpetuating the 'one step forward-two steps backward' monotonous repetitive beat! Which gives FAILURE at and through the JFF and our football!

[OJ]

yah,,, true he had the same role has keith kelly at the time.. played against each other too but then he would have made it. He was not flash then but ran hard, but you are right. His continue development in pro clubs Hanover in germany did not hurt.