The Assasination of Claffy

[Peter R]

1st thing you have to do ,to be able to make an honest assessment of Klopp is admit that his predecessor left him an unbalanced team , then you and I, can see eye to eye.It makes no sense you critique Klopp as having same problems as B.R when he obviously didnt start at the same starting point.

I have always said Pool has a good team under B.R but lack a manager that can get the most out of it, you see this in the players used, how they are used ,formation set up and tactical adjustments.

Its not coincidence we looked like a team under B.R content on passing the ball 90 minutes for a draw and one in the space of 3 games beating the wall down for a win ( with all those injuries).

If you can be honest in your examination about this, you will admit a change in tactics- formation ,subs,philospohy and of course mental adjustment of players, staff played a role in this .This is the qualatative effect that B.R did not have.Simply the nuance to implement this.

To you its all excused by B.R not having a 20 goal a season striker, as if he has the qualatative effect of purchasing (eyeing) one and molding one.Given what we know now ,as a friend told me who was an ardent Rodgers supporter and now a Klopp believer, B.R needed more time at a smaller club.

Confession good for the soul.

One question: Why do you state that (bolded) as if they are mutually exclusive?

[Paul Marin]

If you agree that Klopp inherited an unbalance team then obviously the task at hand for the new manager is to rectify that,and surely you hope he he does it in a timely manner,how loooong was BR the manager?

So the team was unbalanced under Rodgers? (Yes or No)

[Paul Marin]

OK Sir, I won't call ? name

If you have followed Paul's comments on Sakho, there is no retrofitting. He has written about how he looks when he plays while at the same time giving him props for doing a good job back there.

You have to produce some evidence of "retrofitting" if any exists because as I pointed out, the use of quotes is equally (and correctly) explained by what I told you.

This does not prevent anyone from changing their mind about a player, or coach, as time goes by. Paul said as much with respect to Lucas.

Tenk u sah....the barrista have competition if I need to go to court!

[Rockman]

Inherited or the team he built?

[Paul Marin]

Inherited or the team he built?

I didn't ask about inheritance, the question is very simple, was the team unbalanced under Rodgers? Yes or No? (regardless of if he built it or not). Secondly (forgot to ask you this but I asked Demagogue) what is meant by "unbalanced"? Xlax fraid fi ansa, but it is not a trick question.

[Rockman]

Klopp inherited an unbalanced team from BR,it goes without saying that BR ended his tenure with his team being unbalanced
I am the poster that responded to your post that mentioned the word unbalanced,you should be the one defining that word given you are the one that used it(the post I responded to).

[Paul Marin]

Klopp inherited an unbalanced team from BR,it goes without saying that BR ended his tenure with his team being unbalanced
I am the poster that responded to your post that mentioned the word unbalanced,you should be the one defining that word given you are the one that used it(the post I responded to).

If you were following the thread - you would have seen that it wasn't my word "unbalanced" - so if you are gonna pick up the light sabre for your bredrin, make sure it have a full charge. All now me a wait fi unu fi tell me what unu mean by "unbalanced".

[Sir X]

That's the problem,you change like the direction of the wind-flipping,yes you are entitled to it,as I am of pointing it out to you.

The Lucas thing.....ahhhhh sahhh.

[Paul Marin]

That's the problem,you change like the direction of the wind-flipping,yes you are entitled to it,as I am of pointing it out to you.

The Lucas thing.....ahhhhh sahhh.

Again - what about Lucas did I say that is flip-flopping? LOL!! Klown - intelligent people can see right through you. LOL!!

[Rockman]

Seems like answering your primary question did not help in making the dialogue meaningful after all.,and now you are demanding an answer to your secondary question.
The side is as good as necessary regarding some positions but insufficient in other positions of equal importance.

[Peter R]

1. Original opinion: This man is a rux
2. Some time passes, the man's team is excelling, new opinion: this man is astute
3. More time passes, the man's team is not doing so well: This man is a rux

The above is generally considered to be flip flopping!

1. Player comes in, first season original opinion: This guy going to cost us goals ! him not good enough
2. Time passes, player's performance vastly improves and plays consistently well: New opinion: this guy is actually good and we can use him
3. No change.

The above is a change of opinion.

This is just to demonstrate how that works!

And as a parting thought (for all forumites) It is misleading and frankly bordering on outright lying to ascribe a characteristic (e.g. flip flopping) to someone, without evidence, because it suits your agenda. Sadly, many of us follow politics too closely AND think that this is ethically and morally acceptable.

If the person genuinely believes that he/she is correct in his/her characterisation, and has not done the investigation to prove that it is in FACT so, demonstrates laziness and outright ignorance and earns himself/herself many of these:

[Paul Marin]

Seems like answering your primary question did not help in making the dialogue meaningful after all.,and now you are demanding an answer to your secondary question.
The side is as good as necessary regarding some positions but insufficient in other positions of equal importance.

Rockman - he said I have to admit that Herr Klopp inherited an unbalanced team. I asked:

1. Did the previous manager have a balanced or unbalanced team? and
2. What do you mean by unbalanced?

How on god's green earth do you (and your mentor X) manage to make this into anything more than a question? Answer the #@#$%$% question an' tap u nize!

[Sir X]

Unnuh righted?...The heading of the thread is THE ASSASSINATION OF CLAFFY.

E.g were given of flipping in quotations.Please read again.

[Rockman]

Maybe you are in the habit of looking for mentors,and that is okay, but, please do not think I am that way too.

Now for a surprise,I answered both of your questions.

[Paul Marin]

Maybe you are in the habit of looking for mentors,and that is okay, but, please do not think I am that way too.

Now for a surprise,I answered both of your questions.

Where did you define "unbalanced"?