Boyz or who ?

[Twan]

http://jamaica-gleaner.com/article/s...nager-responds

[Sir X]

Good piece .

[Sir X]

Don’t Undermine Foreign Boyz
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Published:Monday | August 10, 2015

Lascelve Graham
Every once in a while, I find myself at odds with the views of some of my very good friends. Such is the case now with respect to the views expressed by Tony Becca in his Gleaner article ('Reggae Boyz, or who?', August 2, 2015).

Mr Becca expressed disagreement with the composition of the Jamaican contingent, coming as most of them did from England. This is, of course, the view of many football enthusiasts in Jamaica, that Jamaican representatives should, for the most part, be born and bred in Jamaica.

http://jamaica-gleaner.com/article/c...e-foreign-boyz

[Mosiah]

I have great respect for Roy Simpson, who is perhaps the longest serving manager of the Boyz. He's not the kind of manager who would have the entire team sharing two towels!

If his article was to prove the Jamaicaness of the players, well, perhaps he did, but I'm not sure how many people were concerned about that or their eligibility to play for the Boyz.

If it was about fairness in choosing the team, you can always expect the locals to far outnumber the Snowaz, as not too many Snowaz will want to be making up numbers. At the end of the day, despite the large number of local ballaz called to the squad, a great deal of them were cut from the final list and even more from the actual starting line up.

If this article was to prove their quality...a good deal of premiership ballaz are there only because many ballers can't get work permits. Some are actually quite ruxy!

What the article certainly avoided was to demonstrate how this practice is a good thing for the development of Jamaica's football. I believe Roy was responding to an article that touched on that subject and, as such, he could have addressed that issue, if is even likkle bit.

[Gamma]

Becca did the same thing in 97-98 by pronouncing that the Boyz would not qualify with the addition of burton hall and Simpson. He ate humble pie .... It seems that it is that time again

[Gamma]

It doesn't aid in the development. If they were not in the squad, would the development be any further along? If the answer is no then the whole debate is fraught with fallacy

[Sir X]

Xactly thats why it should be debated or touched to expose the fallacy be it for or against development , be it inclusion or exclusion,the more steakholders voice a position the better for our football developmnent.Lets not forget the UB40s have failed post WC 98 ,reaching a GC final almost 20 years later isnt improvement in my eyes , more like luck.C. Rica qualified to two WC since (98) and

CONCACAF Championship / CONCACAF Gold Cup
Winners (1):: 1989 they won it twice before that
Runners-up (1): 2002
Semifinalist (7): 1965, 1971, 1985, 1991, 1993, 2003, 2009
Copa América
Fifth place (1): 2001

Panama Post WC 98 has GC
United States 2005 Runners-up
United States 2007 Quarter-Finals
United States 2009 Quarter-Finals
United States 2011 Semi-Finals
United States 2013 Runners-up
United States 2015 Third Place


I fear another reality check this campaign.Panama was on its way to another WC final in 20 15 when it was robbed ,it would have met Jamaica in the finals, I think they would have fancied their chances to lift their 1st GC.

[Don1]

What the article certainly avoided was to demonstrate how this practice is a good thing for the development of Jamaica's football. I believe Roy was responding to an article that touched on that subject and, as such, he could have addressed that issue, if is even likkle bit.

Yes....This is the key issue. They cannot substantiate ANY lasting relationship between SnowBall and the development of our football.

Why? Because there is none

So the Lemmings are left with nonsensical bleating about "who is a Jamaican" A total Red Herring with which they hope to avoid the critical development issue .

We see the Empty-Headed Lemmings on this site and elsewhere echoing this nonsense argument. Dem tink Big Man fall fi dem eediat argument??

All Heathen fi get bun out....Starting with the Jamaica Fraud Federation

[Don1]

It doesn't aid in the development. If they were not in the squad, would the development be any further along? If the answer is no then the whole debate is fraught with fallacy

A debate cannot be properly called fallacious by reliance on a hypothetical The issue under debate is either valid or not valid on its own merits

What may be fallacious is the thinking behind policymakers (and ignorant supporters)who totally ignore their key mission of creating a football industry centered around well developed players

[Gamma]

If ..... then ... You saw that?

[Gamma]

Luck?! Nuh you sMe one seh this stretch was the best you had seen ANY Jamaican team play?!!!

The play was consistent throughout. If anything the luck was against us as we should have scored first against Mexico ....

[Don1]

If ..... then ... You saw that?

Yep I saw that hypothetical

[Assasin]

The UB40 have failed or the Jamaican National team, coach and JFF have failed???

How you put the failure on UB40???

[Gamma]

Ok good. Now what makes you THINK that if they were not in the squad there would be more development in Jamaican football?

[Don1]

Ok good. Now what makes you THINK that if they were not in the squad there would be more development in Jamaican football?

Given the stupid JFF leadership...I actually don't think so