Developing footballers in Jamaica..........

[Don1]

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The question to be answered is: WHY don't we have the professional program.. somebody must be benefiting from this dysfunction...

Mi hear dem seh Is Manley..no.. Is JC Fault

[Mosiah]

Forgive if this has been said before, but after 4 short weeks, the football season for 80% of the participating schools has come to a screeching halt.

Is a good ting Alvas Powell could have singlehandedly taken Paul Bogle High to the second round, because it's quite likely he would never have been seen by the selectors.

Imagine how many very good players have been lost to the world overnight because their schools never made it to the second round. Imagine how many players are losing out on fulfilling their potential because the season, even if they qualified for the second round, is just so short.

[Karl]

Forgive if this has been said before, but after 4 short weeks, the football season for 80% of the participating schools has come to a screeching halt.

Is a good ting Alvas Powell could have singlehandedly taken Paul Bogle High to the second round, because it's quite likely he would never have been seen by the selectors.

Imagine how many very good players have been lost to the world overnight because their schools never made it to the second round. Imagine how many players are losing out on fulfilling their potential because the season, even if they qualified for the second round, is just so short.

Good post!
...very good post!!!

It is sooooooooo very important that the vast numbers going down the drain=being denied access to developing potential hits home=is considered as thinking on development model is being done.

[Mosiah]

Some will say that's why recruiting is necessary, allowing the star at say, Belair, to move to a Manchester High, and avoid being lost. And I would agree. (Of course, the way it's done is important to me, but that's for another thread.) But there aren't enough schools for these recruits to move to. And what if the player is unable to be transferred, for whatever reason?

Schoolboy football, daCosta and Manning Cups, was never meant to be the official developer of the country's football stock. It has a role to play but needs serious help.

[Bricktop]

what role does schoolboy football have to play in developing the country's football stock?

[Mosiah]

Yuh nuh seeit?

[Bricktop]

nope...yuh might get the odd player here and there that can compete with top level players...but i don't see many high school players supplanting academy trained players on Jamaican youth teams...

[Muadib]

Bob Marley write ah song with your yapping in mind...

This could be the first trumpet, might as well be the last:
Many more will have to suffer,
Many more will have to die - don't ask me why...

It must be a curse to rhatid...

[Stonigut]

What is unmanageable and unsustainable you ask?

336 trained and qualified coaches in the blink of an eye, even if you had the money and the very best project managers it would take two years to get such a program on the ground and sustaining such a program with basic labor costs of $7m per year is just not realistic and that is paying these guys an average of $20 k per year plus 15percent for benefits, your average yard teacher is making about $15k USA, a real qualified coach and trainer is probably more like twice that amount.

Anyway let's assume $7 millions per year just for labor, that would probably not even make the year before that program is disbanded, real change will come with a small well figured operation that is geared for longevity using infrastructure already on the ground.

Program would be geared to exposing all the best from every single school, ensuring a wide selection process.

[USAF]

Karl!!!.......In 2007 MLS officially started their academy system which would be part of US Soccer's national academy program. The goal is to have the top youth talent coached & challenged in a professionally managed system where they can play with & compete against the best identified youth players. The academies felt that when their players played high school soccer there was some drop off in performance & focus, so in 2012 the academy program switched to a 10 month schedule and prohibited players from high school competition.
***If you want to produce top class footballers you have to put them in an environment that will challenge them to be the best/do their best & focus on their development & growth.

[Karl]

Karl!!!.......In 2007 MLS officially started their academy system which would be part of US Soccer's national academy program. The goal is to have the top youth talent coached & challenged in a professionally managed system where they can play with & compete against the best identified youth players. The academies felt that when their players played high school soccer there was some drop off in performance & focus, so in 2012 the academy program switched to a 10 month schedule and prohibited players from high school competition.
***If you want to produce top class footballers you have to put them in an environment that will challenge them to be the best/do their best & focus on their development & growth.

What is the size of the USA 6 through 12 youth players?

...of the USA current national teams how many of the players were in a "professional academy" at 6 through 12 years (pre-high school years)?

...and for the senior women - TOP OF THE WORLD - and men team - within FIFA TOP 20: what of the 12 through 17 years (high school years)?

...and finally - year 18 and above? ...college or academy?

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Aside: It seems to me that Klinsmann is not interested in where his (the USA's) best talent lies. He just wants the best!

Earlier watched the USA v Ecuador. Great potential and of a standard at or near CONCACAF's top...but still too naive. The rate of improvement on quality of the players...technically...suggests the USA will be awesome TEAM come next World Cup.

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Ohhh? ...totally agree with ***If you want to produce top class footballers you have to put them in an environment that will challenge them to be the best/do their best & focus on their development & growth.

...but not all academies fit that bill of "best environment" and specific to Jamaica our schools are currently our - "best environment" - most suited to building even far...very far better environment.

There are many reasons why in Jamaica currently our schools are ideal for developing our youth players. Among these are:-
- available talent pool...captive talent pool;

- physical & human resources;

- open to transfer of knowledge as schools by being schools have been most receptive to new ideas and are always seeking to improve on knowledge and teaching methods;

- financial investment - past and annual recurring.

- established competitions 'dying' for improvement...and available for same. (...as standards improve Academy TEAMs could be matched with Parish, Confederation and national TEAMs - for intra-island competition?)

All our current national coaches should be on exchange visits with top club academies and those academy teachers and administrators should have regular visits to Jamaica - to spread the 'gospel' - transfer knowledge=teach/coach our teachers/coaches and administrators.

Professionalism?
There are two definitions that we concern ourselves with on this board when discussing football development. They are - being paid for performing particular task. For example, a professional academy is seen as institution where financial reward is derived for teaching young footballers.

- behaving in a particular manner - behaving in a professional manner. This second demands providing of high level of skill at delivering a service or accomplishing a task.

Our Jamaica schools can be said to be failing on both counts. The financial reward for doing 'the job' is lousy. The delivery of service - educating our young - and in a general sense our teacher-administrators and teachers provide less than professional commitment and teaching-development of our young.

...but back to the topic under discussion: It is the provision of top quality delivery of service...i.e. educating our talented youth footballers that our schools are well suited to supply. Our schools could be easily transformed to provide professional guidance of the highest quality to assist in/on development of our best talents and thus graduate - at age-appropriate levels - top quality students.

The schoolboy and schoolgirl competition is ripe for raising of quality of play to top World national U-17 and Under 20 teams. It just takes introduction of professionalism in the schools in the area of subject 'football'. ...if that happens professional academic delivery of services shall follow. Teachers of mathematics, the sciences, languages, etc. shall become jealous of the success of the teachers of football and raise their approach and output to professional grade standard. Success breeds success! ...football following the trajectory of improved delivery in subject *"Track and Field"?

*Track and Field? ...on ever improving trajectory. Nowhere near where it can be...but improving spread of professionalism in delivery. ...many schools needing to play "catch-up" even as the top schools should keep improving on professionalism.

[Karl]

What is unmanageable and unsustainable you ask?

336 trained and qualified coaches in the blink of an eye, even if you had the money and the very best project managers it would take two years to get such a program on the ground and sustaining such a program with basic labor costs of $7m per year is just not realistic and that is paying these guys an average of $20 k per year plus 15percent for benefits, your average yard teacher is making about $15k USA, a real qualified coach and trainer is probably more like twice that amount.

Anyway let's assume $7 millions per year just for labor, that would probably not even make the year before that program is disbanded, real change will come with a small well figured operation that is geared for longevity using infrastructure already on the ground.

Program would be geared to exposing all the best from every single school, ensuring a wide selection process.

Errors! Areas your above did not take into account -
1. ...blink of an eye! Rome was not built in a day (I have been proposing such a build out on this board since 2000! ...that is now lost opportunity going into working through the 15th year!!!!

2. Please check with the Ministry of Education in Jamaica on total figures already invested in "football" by the Ministry - monies sunk into school & colleges and add to that amount subsidies provided by private sector sources.

3. The number of teachers of subject "football" you envision at least 200% too small. In each school there has to be a team-teaching and administration of any development program. Look it follows the already tried and true methods used in planning and implementing teaching any subject. I worked in Jamaica at the Primary, Preparatory, Junior High school, Secondary high school and College for various periods. - Not one did not follow the
team-teaching model. Syllabus - Age appropriate and sequential increased progress level, form through to higher form & year to succeeding year was planned. Appropriate reviews and modifications worked at. It must be the same for subject "football".

There was also the various "professional" improvement meetings, courses, seminars and individuals taking leave to improve education.

The fact is:- Arriving at an end point is a journey! ...never a blink of an eye journey although the aim is always to progress as fast as humanly possible.

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Please make the connections - Aside: Gamma, please take note of the consistency? -

Bring in/work with the schools -
- http://www.reggaeboyzsc.com/editorials.aspx?val=%&id=72

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The aim of the JFF must be to be at the forefront of the creation of the FOOTBALL INDUSTRY envisioned. That vision must speak to the creation of a United States multi-billion dollar football industry. If that goal is to be 'rapidly achieved' tremendous changes in thinking within the JFF will have to occur. If the posts on our discussion forum are a guide, there are many tasks to be attempted and mini plans to be developed that will fit within the concept of ongoing phases of perpetual renewal. It stands to reason that if the aim of 'rapid development' is to be realized, simultaneous 'rapid progress' in many areas will have to take place. Can the largely inexperienced Executive Committee of the JFF accomplish this relying on only their members? One answer - Impossible!

At the earliest youth levels there are a number of self-evident activities crying out for action.
1. The development of a model for the institution of an all-island, village by village, competitive football structure that will spawn mini leagues that will leave no teaching institution from age 7 upwards out of the mix. These structures will prove to be the breeding ground(s) where the earliest identification of talent will occur.

2. The development of teaching 'models' which will provide formal training for those who would administer and otherwise be involved in the running of the various competitive structures.

3. The outlining and articulation of the role for each competitive structure as it relates to the JFF's vision.

4. The development of closer working relations with the Preparatory and Primary schools. This must be on a two-tiered front. A) Relations with the local Parish FA and B) Relations with the JFF. These relationships would make for the provision of technical resources such as referees, lecturers, training camps personnel, training venues (mini 'Centres of Excellence), medical personnel, models to study, etcetera. In short the development of 'replica club structures' and mini academies.

5. Support fellowships, grants, and etcetera, relationships with institutions outside of the island where the administrative personnel and providers of technical knowledge would attend to gain new insight and experience.

6. Encouragement of regional games involving the best of the talent.

7. Promotion of international games involving the Caribbean and the wider world as the best talent is channeled into national age group teams. --
Source:http://www.reggaeboyzsc.com/views.aspx?val=%&id=45

Recognition for private sector academies - JFF is a private sector entity!
- http://www.reggaeboyzsc.com/editoria...x?val=%&id=102

What the REGGAE BOYZ means to 'our football'
- http://www.reggaeboyzsc.com/editorials.aspx?val=%&id=40

Why good teachers are vital to improving players and teams quality?
- http://www.reggaeboyzsc.com/views.aspx?val=%&id=232

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Bricktop: A name by itself does nothing!
There is Campion and there is KC! ...or let's make the disparity wider: There is Campion and there is Penwood!

Similarily your academy is nothing without top quality teacher-coaches!!!! There is academy and there is academy!!!

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The program?
http://www.reggaeboyzsc.com/views.aspx?val=%&id=117

A case study?
Lulu opines on Scotland
- http://www.reggaeboyzsc.com/views.aspx?val=%&id=106

[Muadib]

ahm.. our schools can't even produce what they are supposed to produce.. academically qualified people..

Now yuh want add Professional Football Players to dem portfolio ?

lol ! woieee !!

Profundity mussi your miggle name to rath...

[Stonigut]

Way too much Karl, for continuity, sustainability and just plain financial survival we must start simple and must create a hierarchical type system based on performance, talent and will so that the top ten percent of football possible athletes go through the Academy system with the best teachers, best techniques etc etc, this is just a starting point. But starting points that are sustainable create the basis for longevity and institutionalization.

You make an interesting point on previous investment made, however the bottom line on that is that investment is sparse and like throwing a thousand seeds of fertilizer across Jamaica and expecting growth. Growth must be targeted and focused on reaping the cream of the crop and Spartans make!

Achievement and competition to get to the peak high academy system will create energy untold and if well managed is the only thing that can get Jamaicans moving as we know Jamaicans can move and aspire for the highest mount.

Believe me when I tell you that any bottom up catch every player at the start of their football life is inconceivable for Jamaica for at least the next twenty years, we have neither the resources, financial, educational system to produce such trained personnel or enough talented people willing to sacrifice their future for meager returns in coaching in such a system to sustain such a thing and such a program will fail miserably or hobble along on crutches with little or no impact, we must have the tip of the spear strategy, focused, sharp, aggressively identifying the best, developing the best at each age group and still retaining enough fluidity in the system to recycle dropouts that nature, get stronger and faster and wiser and can displace those who got the better of them in years past, such a system is manageable and very possible and can be started immediately with strong and visible impact within five years. Export of players to foreign leagues, building a better national team, creating a Jamaican style football which can permeate every crevice and recess within the whole as you are hoping to do in reverse and spending untold millions in a program destined to fail miserably like all great big idea jamaican programs in the past.

[Don1]

Way too much Karl, for continuity, sustainability and just plain financial survival we must start simple and must create a hierarchical type system based on performance, talent and will so that the top ten percent of football possible athletes go through the Academy system with the best teachers, best techniques etc etc, this is just a starting point. But starting points that are sustainable create the basis for longevity and institutionalization.

You make an interesting point on previous investment made, however the bottom line on that is that investment is sparse and like throwing a thousand seeds of fertilizer across Jamaica and expecting growth. Growth must be targeted and focused on reaping the cream of the crop and Spartans make!

Achievement and competition to get to the peak high academy system will create energy untold and if well managed is the only thing that can get Jamaicans moving as we know Jamaicans can move and aspire for the highest mount.

Believe me when I tell you that any bottom up catch every player at the start of their football life is inconceivable for Jamaica for at least the next twenty years, we have neither the resources, financial, educational system to produce such trained personnel or enough talented people willing to sacrifice their future for meager returns in coaching in such a system to sustain such a thing and such a program will fail miserably or hobble along on crutches with little or no impact, we must have the tip of the spear strategy, focused, sharp, aggressively identifying the best, developing the best at each age group and still retaining enough fluidity in the system to recycle dropouts that nature, get stronger and faster and wiser and can displace those who got the better of them in years past, such a system is manageable and very possible and can be started immediately with strong and visible impact within five years. Export of players to foreign leagues, building a better national team, creating a Jamaican style football which can permeate every crevice and recess within the whole as you are hoping to do in reverse and spending untold millions in a program destined to fail miserably like all great big idea jamaican programs in the past.

Stoni yuh almost reach Damascus to ****!!

Good ting mi dun outline how an affordable academy system cyan werk.. including expert foreign technical assistance, long term funding sources, student accommodation & academic fulfillment