Jangle, the more I think about it I think LvG

[Lazie]

made a mistake in naming Rooney as team captain. I think it should have been DeGea. As captain Rooney expects to start most games? What if he isn't producing?

[Rockman]

Yup,someone at the back(full view of his players)but DeGea never took command of his defense,he merely retrieves tge ball from his net.If LvG insists on finding a starting spot for Fletcher,then he should be the captain.

[Lazie]

Yup,someone at the back(full view of his players)but DeGea never took command of his defense,he merely retrieves tge ball from his net.If LvG insists on finding a starting spot for Fletcher,then he should be the captain.

Yuh mad? Which Fletcher?

[Rockman]

If he still figures in LvG's starting lineups then why not?
Fketcher would have been an ideal captain afew seasons ago,the same for former player Park.
They both have strong work ethics and so would demand that of their teammates.

[Assasin]

Who say you can't bench captain?

Rooney deserve it. The man history at Manu said it all. Hopefully it will inspire him for awhile longer. Captain is about on the field motivation, inside the locker room, motivating young and new players etc.

[Jangle]

Rocky me seriously wonder about you more times. LVG was faced with a dilemma when he came. All the leaders left the team - Vidic, Ferdinand and Evra. Carrick is like Scholes and shy away from the captaincy so that leaves Rooney, Fletcher and RVP. He certainly couldn't give it to any of the 3 stooges round a back - Smalling, Evans or Jones. You should be flogged for mentioning Mr. Chin (Park) and the word captain in the same sentence.

[Rockman]

You can tan deh,you were NOT paying attention,Park and Fletcher were absolutely phenominal,the very essence we are missing today.If Fletcher was, at the very least, half the player today that he was prior to serious medical conditions,he would be my pick.mazing how Rooney is at his best today and RvP is no less the player he was at Arsenal and we can't win a game,the steel Jangle.
What we should REALLY do is revisit the past,how did we feel when Pogba was sold,was it similar to how we feel about Welbeck being sold?
England sucks but did Welbeck have a bad WC?

[Jangle]

Ok Rockman, let me straighten you out. Thank God that you are not the manager or else we would be playing in League 1. There is no way you can give the captaincy to a player who is a bit part player in the squad. Park was like a headless chicken. His technical abilities were very limited and all he brought to his game was energy and tenacity in his tackles. However, it would have been easier if you asked him to cook a plate of Kimchi rather than ask him to create a goal-scoring opportunity. SAF knew exactly how to use Park and when to bring him into a game.....and Park was comfortable playing his role. Kudos to him.

Fletcher today, is playing better than Fletcher prior to his illness AND during SAF's days. He was never given the role as the anchor midfielder and the leader in our midfield as he's being used now by LVG. There was always Scholes or Carrick and when he played with either one, our midfield was slow and ponderous. Fergie used him all over the field and he was one who also knew his role. Now, I see Fletcher spraying passes all over the field and getting the most touches on the ball. His problem though is that he doesn't have the engine to boss the midfield and loses steam after 30 minutes into the game. If you are going to reminisce about the past, then a bit-part player who could have been a candidate for the captain could have been John O'Shea. However, that would have been difficult back then. The team 5 - 6 years ago was ram-packed with leaders - Neville, Ferdinand, Van dar Saar, Ferdinand, Vidic, Evra, Giggs, Carrick. There was absolutely no way Park or Fletcher could ever be considered for captain.

Today, the candidates were very limited. Rooney was the most obvious and logical choice. Welbeck is an upgrade to Park in that he offers a lot of energy upfront that troubles defender, but his finishing is woefully lacking. If he's given the opportunity at Arsenal then he can improve. However, given the depths that we have fallen, we needed to spend big to get us back to the top where we belong as quickly as possible, and Falcoa is a Bugatti to Welbeck the Ford Mustang. We are in this position today because Fergie was too sentimental and used emotions to wring juice out of the dead rocks that were in the team.

[Rockman]

Park indeed had Scholes in front of him,his role was to be defensive mid as clearly Scholes wasn't.He has played on the left wing without affecting the fluidity of his team.It was not a shockerr when he scored too,and Rooney did not have to fall bacl filling a void.
Fletcher really isn't even half the player..,if he is only good for 30 minutes then that is a far cry from being the tireless warrior.....
Forever etched in my mind is that game against Arsenal when Fletcher made all attempts to prevent a ball from going outside,he failed and was obviously disappointed.Pires indicated to Fletcher he is taking things too serious,Pires went on to leave his club whilst Fletcher remained.
Both players are unsung heroes,with their teammates benefiting...
Oh by the way,we never had a problem when Fletcher was fielded as a right back player,unlike today when tweaking is desired regarding wingbacks,and he never missed a beat wearing the boots of Beckham and Veron.Tall order and he rose to the occasion.Both players figured in a squad of illustrous players,why?

[Jangle]

25-man squad list (Home Grown *)

Amos, Benjamin Paul
Blind, Daley
*Carrick, Michael
De Abreu Oliveira, Anderson Luis
De Gea Quintana, David
Di Maria, Angel Fabian
*Evans, Jonathan Grant
Fellaini-Bakkioui, Marouane
*Fletcher, Darren Barr
Garcia Zarate, Radamel Falcao
Herrera Aguera, Ander
*Jones, Philip Anthony
Lindegaard, Anders Rozenkrantz
*Lingard, Jesse Ellis
Mata Garcia, Juan Manuel
*Pereira da Silva, Rafael
*Petrucci, Davide
Rojo, Faustino Marcos Alberto
*Rooney, Wayne Mark
*Smalling, Christopher
Valencia Mosquera, Luis Antonio
Van Persie, Robin
*Vermijl, Marnick Danny
*Young, Ashley Simon
Under-21s list (Contract and Scholars)

Blackett, Tyler Nathan
Borthwick-Jackson, Cameron Jake
Byrne, Oliver Joseph
Castro Pereira, Joel Dinis
Croskery, Ruairi
Dorrington, George Edward
Dunne, James Gerard
Evans, Callum Leeroy
Fletcher, Ashley Michael
Goss, Sean Richard
Grimshaw, Liam David
Harrop, Josh
Henderson, Dean Bradley
Henriquez Iturra, Angelo Jose
Hoelgebaum Pereira, Andreas Hugo
James, Reece
Janko, Saidy
Januzaj, Adnan
Johnson, Travis Conroy
Johnstone, Samuel Luke
Keane, Michael Vincent
Keane, William David
Love, Donald Alistair
McConnell, Ryan Peter
McNair, Patrick James Coleman
Mctominay, Scott
Mitchell, Demetri Karim
O’Hara, Kieran Michael
Pearson, Benjamin David
Poole, Regan Leslie
Powell, Nicholas Edward
Rashford, Marcus
Redmond, Devonte Vincent
Reid, Tyler
Riley, Joe
Rothwell, Joseph Matthew
Scott, Charlie Thomas
Shaw, Luke Paul Hoare
Thompson, Jordan Andrew
Thorpe, Thomas Joseph
Tuanzebe, Axel
Varela Olivera, Guillermo
Weir, James Michael
Willock, Matthew
Wilson, James Antony