Los Ticos!!

[Tilla]

Campbell is not Jamaican or Caribbean, it is Scottish in origin. I read somewhere where they said that Campbell is one of the most common Scottish names in Jamaica.

[Dunny]

Also because they need to get the youngsters and this is a problem because of FIFA rules and immigration policies towards Jamaicans.

We could have a great player but with the CAPS.and Jamaica's ranking

Barnes and Sterling are good examples of the age to expose them. Can you imagine if Whitmore, Boyd and Lowe had that opportunity?

Gamma, there is talent in Jamaica but not an abundance as we think other developing countries face the same issue with visa etc. I had an interesting chat with a French guy the other day, I keep telling this guy we have so many talented players in Jamaica bla bla bla, this guy controls all player recruitment at Olympic Lyon. He said to me Dunston how many players have Jamaica exported over the last 30 years to important leagues, this guy was very knowledgeable about our players that went to the Youth World Cup in Mexico a few years ago, I won't call any names but there was 1 player who they tracked for a while but didn't think he was good enough to make it at the top level. So please guys do not think scouts are not watching our players. These big clubs look at players in every nook and cranny world wide.

[Karl]

My argument with this load of talent argument is how many Jamaican home grown players are playing in La Liga, EPL, Bundesliga Liggue 1 or even in Holland, Portugal or Turkey? Why are our players are not being scouted if there is so much talent? We Jamaicans just over hype the thing.

Have you reviewed the %age passes subject by subject on academic results?
Do you know the %age scoring above 45% on each subject? (Not limited to those who sit exams...but those who completed academic courses in each subject at each school?).

Do you really believe TALENT DOES NOT ABOUND?! Do you really think we churn out consistently 50+% of failing students?

Do you think the way our footballers perform/play is not a reflection of the teaching received in the subject "Way to play the Game"?

Do you think the players play in the indisciplined manner they do is a result of the teaching on, "discipline needed while playing football"?

Do you think our passing is so poor, because "we were taught the how to be great passers"?

Do you think we "buss" during games because we were taught to be supremely fit such that at the end of the game our endurance would have fallen off only a 'wee bit'?

Do you think we move about the field so poorly because we were taught to move in 'wonderful manner'?

Dunny: Our talented perform below that comparable to the best in the World not because we lack physical capability or because we lack mental ability...but because our 'experts' are as the great Peter Tosh would say, in the ****-sym have been feeding us ****!!! ...and worse, those 'experts' think they are teaching great stuff!

[Islandman]

Yeah but if a person of African descent in Latin America has a British-sounding surname like Campbell or Brown, they are probably of recent Caribbean lineage.

[Sir X]

You think its coincidence that the us college circuit is the biggest factor in developing our youth,that says it all,no names get bussed or have a better chance of developing than a youth in the national program,doesnt that say something.

[Don1]

No as players they are poor!
Why? - Ignorant to the game!

Follow me - We are as 'bright' as people elsewhere in the world but our academic results are awful.

Why?
The delivery of educational instructions to the children is poor.

You may ask: why is it some of our children perform well when compared to the countries with top education systems?

My answer would be there are factors which allow some of our children to surmount the tremendous hurdle 'poor delivery of education' puts in their path.

...and so it is that some small...minuscule numbers of our footballers overcome in-spite of the obstacles they face caused by poor delivery of football education.

In both cases, academic results and football quality, TALENT ABOUNDS and so does poor delivery of/by the education system!!!

The fix?
Good education system...first rate education system!!! The TALENTed will then flourish!!!

1000% correct

Amazing that most are ignorant of this.... so their easy (i.e. hurry-come-up) fix is supporting mass snow balla importation and not mass player development

[Gamma]

Look how so many French players and Dutch players are from the former colonies? Why because travel is not as restrictive.

Let us agree to disagree Dunny because the argument of how many etc etc is a fallacy. Do you recall Omar Cummings potential move to England? Why did it fall through even though the deal cost much less than what was eventually pains for Bent?

[Dunny]

Look how so many French players and Dutch players are from the former colonies? Why because travel is not as restrictive.

Let us agree to disagree Dunny because the argument of how many etc etc is a fallacy. Do you recall Omar Cummings potential move to England? Why did it fall through even though the deal cost much less than what was eventually pains for Bent?

Gamma we can't continue to kid ourselves or else our football will stand still for the next fifty years, my eyes are wide open, I am seeing players being produced in some impoverished countries with little or no coaching and are ending up in the best leagues.

[Tilla]

OK, there are also Jamaican migrants in Costa Rica and Panama, so he could have some Caribbean roots.

[Mosiah]

Campbell is not Jamaican or Caribbean, it is Scottish in origin. I read somewhere where they said that Campbell is one of the most common Scottish names in Jamaica.

Come on, Tilla! There is no real Jamaican name. Not even "Tilla" is Jamaican.

But over the years, certain names can surely be associated with certian countries.

Campbell I would certainy identify as Jamaican, also Bennett and Rohan. Fact is there was quite a bit of Scottish influence over the years in Jamaica.

If you met a West Indian with the name Cumberbatch where in the Caribbean would he/she most likely be from? What about Rolle?

[Paul Marin]

What is Joel Campbell's ancestry like? I could be wrong but Campbell is not a Latin name, neither is Nathan or Samuels..... Just curious

Based on what I have seen myself in Costa Rica, i would bet my bottom dollar that he is one of the Costa Ricans of Jamaican descent. Many Jamaicans went to their to work on the banana plantations and settled in Limon. http://jamaica-gleaner.com/gleaner/2...ead/lead5.html

[Karl]

Talent is there in Jamaica, but it is also all over CONCACAF.

Nice!
Talent Abounds...everywhere!

[Paul Marin]

Nice!
Talent Abounds...everywhere!

Talent "development" however...ain't so easy to find.

[Gamma]

Tilla felt like playing the as$. He's allowed

[Tilla]

Tilla felt like playing the as$. He's allowed

Not that I felt like playing the ass. I will change my position on things if valid arguments are presented or if I come upon info which forces me to change my stance. I am not one of those people to hang on for dear life and defend a position even when I no longer believe in it.

If that is playing an ass, then sorry, I will continue to do so.