Dem tief Mexico...

[Peter R]

The "incompetence" in many cases is due to having humans enforce a law with inadequate equipment, the human eye...

[Paul Marin]

the goals were onside...i know because dos santos was in line with the defender when the ball was played on the first goal...on the second goal you can't be offside from a corner kick or a deflection from a defender...not rocket science at all...calls that should have been easily made by the linesman...obviously icnompetent linesman as the plays werer not bang bang plays...the referee cannot wave off an offside call by a linesman...cannot...he can for a foul call...

So therefore, a review would make the incompetence of linesmen irrelevant. Duh! And by the way - this is wrong: "he referee cannot wave off an offside call by a linesman" - the ref can ignore it all day long if he wants. Don't is true Karl?

[Peter R]

And how did you know he was onside on the first goal? you saw that with your naked eye first time? or did the replay confirm it for you?
In my case I couldn't say until the replay showed him offside. The correct decsion then should be, another official pressing a button (within less than ten seconds) and saying to the ref, : Ey boss, that's a good goal. Ditto on the second.

I am not advocating machines taking over, but using the technology to right, OBVIOUS to the billions watching, what is a wrong!

If they want a side could be limited to ask for two reviews in one match, like in tennis or cricket. It's not revolutionary. BUT, it should just be done as a matter of course.

[Bricktop]

the goals were onside...i know because dos santos was in line with the defender when the ball was played on the first goal...on the second goal you can't be offside from a corner kick or a deflection from a defender...not rocket science at all...calls that should have been easily made by the linesman...obviously icnompetent linesman as the plays werer not bang bang plays...the referee cannot wave off an offside call by a linesman...cannot...he can for a foul call...

[Peter R]

Okay boss... just answer me this question. Were the goals that Mexico scored offside or not and how did you know? And knowing that information could you not then make the correct decision to award a goal or not?

It's simple really, not rocket science.

OH and BTW, you could react to the flag all you want, if the whistle don't blow it's play on. Ask Karl if you don't believe me.

[Bricktop]

Nobody reacts to the linesman's flag? are you kidding me? Goalkeepers and defenders stop all the time when a linesman's flag is up...the referee can't ignore a linesman's flag for offside...the ref is in no position to call offside...once again...why not just do away with human officiating then?

[Peter R]

It's called a review star. We are talking about either upholding the decision or denying it. NOBODY generally, reacts to the flag. The scorer does not see the flag nor does the keeper. In any case, THE WHISTLE is what stops play. The only time the TV HAS to be involved is when a goal results! Don't you understand that??? THAT is the point.

AND, it is precisely that we are human that we need the help that the technology we have created be put to constructive use. You drive a car don't you?

[Dunny]

You saw that too Dunny? The Cameroon coach should be fired on the spot.

What a silly plan with a team with so much individual talent!!

Indeed, him must be reading Stoni's coaching manual

[Bricktop]

so then there is no need for a referee or a linesman...let a computer ref the game...what about defenders or goal keeper reacting to a linesman's flag? both calls against dos santos were not even close...officials just need to do their jobs...

[Paul Marin]

then might as well do away with officials altogether...what you going to do ignore the linesman's flag till the play is over then go to the tape? makes no sense...the officials just need to stop making calls they are not 100% sure of...if there is doubt keep the flag down...or take the whistle from your lips...

BT - how you mean it makes no sense? After Dos Santos's goals, what would have been wrong with a video official upholding the linesman's calls? If Dos Santos missed the goal, it would be a non event and you carry on. In the time between the ball hitting the back of the net and the plays being restarted, the world saw that these were both clearly not offside about 5 times to Sunday. Sorry - it does make sense when the ball goes into the goal.

[Bricktop]

then might as well do away with officials altogether...what you going to do ignore the linesman's flag till the play is over then go to the tape? makes no sense...the officials just need to stop making calls they are not 100% sure of...if there is doubt keep the flag down...or take the whistle from your lips...

[Rockman]

Nike came out with a commercial about machines vs human beings.
I do not think that commercial was helpful to the grand scheme of things.

[Paul Marin]

And they seem to be proud a peacocks rolling out goal-line technology, which probably needs to be applied in one in a hundred goals... yet existing "old" technology (replay) can INSTANTLY demonstrate whether a goal is offside or not...settah jokers!!! Can't we start a campaign of some sort for this?

Peter, the campaign would be to replace the status quo ... they are a private organization; the only way to really get at them is to get their sponsors behind such an initiative. The other problem is that the football fans are not easy to organize; they are like crack addicts, cyan do without dem ball, and FIFA is their crack dealer.

[Peter R]

And they seem to be proud a peacocks rolling out goal-line technology, which probably needs to be applied in one in a hundred goals... yet existing "old" technology (replay) can INSTANTLY demonstrate whether a goal is offside or not...settah jokers!!! Can't we start a campaign of some sort for this?

[HL]

You saw that too Dunny? The Cameroon coach should be fired on the spot.

What a silly plan with a team with so much individual talent!!