I always said the truth

[Jawge]

is akin to a flaming sword. I recall telling many on this board that most of the time it's not the coach where Ja is concerned.I don't want to hear that Ja played too many high caliber teams (what would that say about Ja). You are a professional football player not an amateur hence playing four or five games across the Atlantic shows that you belong (if you can manage).

Now the truth:Since WCQ I've been noticing that most teams Ja played were technically superior to Ja (even Panama). This in turn says something about Ja's game. I watched some of the game with Egypt and the same thing popped up Egypt was more technical. I hear people crying for a local player to be on the team. In the Egypt game; in the last four mins a player won a ball and made a pass to this top player. guess what? the ball could not be controlled.If this player had a good first touch it would mean turning and be one and one with the keeper. Possibly scoring and winning.

Remedy: JFF sanction scrimage/Futsol (with a size four ball) as a tournament up to age 14. Players have to be registered with the JFF. If you are caught playing any games on the big field before 14 you will be de-registered and ineligible to play for the national team (at any level). The best of the above players now then transition to clubs where you play a youth tournament.You will train at the club and attend evening classes in order to obtain a high school diploma. If you play manning cup or dcup you will not be eligible for the national team.

All futsol/scrimage teams must have certified coaches. The above is not hard give Ja's population size and the computing power available today.
Anything else is wasting time and money; to only end up being badly beaten by teams that are serious about the game.

[Karl]

Remedy: JFF sanction scrimage/Futsol (with a size four ball) as a tournament up to age 14. Players have to be registered with the JFF. If you are caught playing any games on the big field before 14 you will be de-registered and ineligible to play for the national team (at any level). The best of the above players now then transition to clubs where you play a youth tournament.You will train at the club and attend evening classes in order to obtain a high school diploma. If you play manning cup or dcup you will not be eligible for the national team.

All futsol/scrimage teams must have certified coaches. The above is not hard give Ja's population size and the computing power available today.
Anything else is wasting time and money; to only end up being badly beaten by teams that are serious about the game.

This is a recipe for disaster.
It is a suggested 'policy' wherein is imbedded the thought that the teachers/coaches and players in the school system are incapable of learning acceptable standard norms of the game. Incapable of grasping concepts and applying same.

It is a suggested system of condemning generations to poor quality teachers/coaches and thus learning.

Look kids...we all need...need to be surrounded by healthy learning environment. It encourages greater and greater levels of understanding and raises the level of literacy of a society...makes for new additions being able to easily adapt to situations within which they find selves and maximizing on what is available.

Imagine - a society where all understood well say...pick a subject matter...what would that do for the 'experts' in that area within that society? Could be the 'experts'...would take definition of 'expert' "to another level"?

Subject: Football?
Understanding the game...? The general population? ...and specific to the players? Yup! "taking it to another level". Could be that holds to a large degree in a Brazil and say, an England? ...and the other top football playing countries?

Cho Jawge, man?
We need to have the specialist football schools (academies)...but we also need very best teaching/coaching of football 'right across our football pyramid'. That kids playing for national teams cannot represent their schools is retrograde step.

[Jawge]

Karl, I'm going to pick out the two top guys in the game (Brazil and Germany).
How many of their youth players represent their high school team? Did Robinho play for a high school (given that he started to play pro at 17) Did Neymar (who nike signed at 15) play for a high school? Did Klinsman play for a high school or the Boateng Bros?

Karl what are high schools for; to teach sports or academics? Is it that sports and academics are one and the same Karl?

[Karl]

Karl, I'm going to pick out the two top guys in the game (Brazil and Germany).
How many of their youth players represent their high school team? Did Robinho play for a high school (given that he started to play pro at 17) Did Neymar (who nike signed at 15) play for a high school? Did Klinsman play for a high school or the Boateng Bros?

Karl what are high schools for; to teach sports or academics? Is it that sports and academics are one and the same Karl?

Jawge we all start out attending school. There must have been some formal introduction to the game at some time along the way...and it must have taught us something.

Now if you grant me the above...then the question you must ask yourself is; Is it better to have as your teachers mar...ers ...or proficient teachers/coaches?

Then of course there is the matter of the math; The size of the pool within which there is talent...within which TALENT ABOUNDS... and the matter of culling the best of the best and still leaving the door open for the rest of late developers to learn under proficient teachers/coachers. Right?

Neymar

The story of Neymar is magnificent and spectacular in almost everyway you view it. We the spectators have been privileged to view his remarkable play. Now, at the young age of 19-years-old he is the youngest player ever to be eligible for Fifa World Player of the Year (FIFA Ballon d’Or). From a list of 23 players, he is the only player who doesn’t play in Europe. So what was the path of this soccer jewel?

As a youngster, Neymar lived in Mogi das Cruzes, São Paulo, and was studying at one of Brazil’s terrible public schools. Needless to say this wasn’t conducive for a young player’s cognitive and mental cultivation, much less for his family’s peace of mind. Neymar’s coach at the time Fino, from Portuguesa Santista, asked the principle of a private school, Tio Gil, to sponsor a young soccer star and the family so the kid can continue to evolve in the sport. Neymar and his sister received scholarships to the private school and Neymar’s path to stardom was forming.

Like so many great Brazilian soccer players, Neymar started his career on the court, not a field. Neymar played Futsal, a Brazilian style indoor game played with a very hard size-three soccer ball, which doesn’t have much bounce to it. Futsal is played on basketball courts and is said to help with ball skills.

Neymar - Press During School Tournament
At the private school he received accolades and press reviews for his ability with the ball during a tournament sponsored by a local television station TV Tribuna, affiliated with the network Rede Globo (Brazil’s NBC for example). Even though his team came in second place in the tournament, the most valuable player was not a doubt to anyone, Neymar. The next year they were champions.

During his time at school Neymar also attained respect from his teachers. They all say the same of their famous pupil. “He was fun, energetic and everyone enjoyed his presence. He was not a trouble-maker and he was always respectable and did his best in school.”

However, the only teacher who had a “hard time” with Neymar was, Mateus, the physical education teacher. In 2005, Neymar studied in the morning and practiced with Santos Futebol Clube in the afternoon, so he never showed up for the school soccer practice. The kids from the school complained Neymar never came to their practice. So one day Neymar was allowed to “skip” practice with the professional squad Santos, to practice with his school team. At that practice Neymar put the ball in-between players legs, put the ball over players heads, and made several goals. After that day, no one ever complained of his absence again.

Well? How much weight should go to his playing with his school team? ...Did it help to get him 'combat ready'? Did he learn anything from the experience?

...and what did he learn at his previous school?

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Jurgen Klinsmann -

Juergen Klinsmann, the new USA coach, played in his first organized soccer game shortly before his 9th birthday, in Gingen, a German village with a population of 400.

He sat on the bench until, with 10 minutes left, the coach realized he’d better put the youngster on the field before he burst with energetic enthusiasm. That’s how Klinsmann’s biographer, Hans Blickensdoerfer, described it.

But just before Klinsmann charged onto the field, he stopped and said to the coach, “Please sir, I don’t actually know what offside means. Can you quickly run it through with me?”

Once on the field, Klinsmann, inhibited by stage fright and fear of offside, ran around like a headless chicken, writes Blickensdoerfer.

Juergen played school and pickup soccer before joining the TB Gingen team.

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I leave you to research Robinho & The Beateng brothers?
Trust me they all went to and played at school. ..but knock yourself out.

It is time we all stop trying to change facts. Facts are stubborn things!

The weight you put on 'learning within school' is yours...but one thing you cannot deny (let me shout it out once more) ALL COUNTRIES WORTH THEIR SALT MAXIMIZE ON INSTRUCTIONS GIVEN IN SCHOOLS. Are we worthy of same?

Just saying!!!!

[Jawge]

At that practice Neymar put the ball in-between players legs, put the ball over players heads, and made several goals. After that day, no one ever complained of his absence again.

Karl you are only endorsing my point. Read the above. Wouldn't it be a waste of time for neymar to attend PE not to mention play for his school as opposed to Santos? What would he gain playing for his high school?