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    Local footballers cry foul
    Published: Sunday | February 23, 2014


    Boys' Town's Michael Campbell. - File

    Marvin Morgan of Waterhouse. - File

    Ryon Jones, Staff Reporter

    The promise of fame and fortune has fuelled many a youngster's dream of becoming a professional footballer. The realisation of such dreams is epitomised by the likes of Real Madrid's Cristiano Ronaldo, Barcelona's Lionel Messi and Manchester United's Wayne Rooney, whose skills have made them household names and landed them some of the most lucrative contracts football has ever seen.

    Those footballers are handsomely compensated for being the best players in their respective leagues. They have no difficulty providing for their families. The same, however, cannot be said for those who ply their trade in Jamaica's top flight.

    Though the pay scale varies among the 12 Red Stripe Premier League teams, there is not much disparity, with the average player earning between $15,000 and $40,000 monthly.

    "Right now, the young ballers will get $15,000 or $20,000 for the month; I am the captain and a $35,000 mi get," bemoaned Boys' Town's Michael Campbell, a league veteran. "It stress mi out more time ... because I don't benefit from it (playing football)."

    Campbell, a father of four, has been forced to find additional means of income. This has impacted negatively on his playing career.

    "A lot of times these days I am on the bench or do not play some games, but it is because of the work, as a that really a provide the food," 35-year-old Campbell said. "Worse, I am getting up in age so I have to just be concentrating on that (work) than playing for Boys' Town."

    Dicoy Williams of defending league champions Harbour View had the privilege of playing in the United States Major League for two years where he represented Toronto FC. Williams believes the disparity between salaries locally and abroad is an apples and oranges situation.

    "It (salary) is not even something that you can compare from Toronto to Jamaica or any professional league in the world."

    The 27-year-old defender revealed that from his salary at Toronto Football Club (FC) - which is 80 per cent more than he earns representing Harbour View - he was able to purchase a car, which he would not be able to do now, as it is mere love for the game which pushes him on.

    "Not because there is no money here we are going to stop play ball; this is what we love, our pride and joy," Williams argued. "To stop play football and just sit down, what are we going to do? Most of the ballers don't have anything else."

    Another player whose sole income is from meagre league earnings is Bahamian Lesly St Fleur, who plays for Montego Bay United. Despite not feeling the full pinch due to benefits, such as free accommodation at the team's house, he still yearns for greener pastures.

    "Someone advised me to come and play in Jamaica and try another level (of football)," the 24-year-old who previously played in Canada told The Sunday Gleaner. "However, I am working hard to get out and live a better life and follow my dream."

    Campbell too is hoping for a better standard of living after years of loyalty to his club, remuneration for which he argued has been insufficient at best.

    "We will play and get paid some months and some months we only get half of our salary and some months we don't get anything at all," Campbell said. "A joke thing!"

    Harbour View's general manager, Clyde Jureidini, concedes that compensation is "inadequate"; but he went on to say that it is "extraordinary as it relates to what the clubs can afford."

    Edward Seaga, president of the Premier League Clubs Association and chairman of the Professional Football Association of Jamaica, also believes that the clubs are doing the best they can.

    "They (clubs) are at the ceiling of what can be done; because we wouldn't withhold anything further which could be done," Seaga, who is also president of Tivoli Gardens FC, reasoned.

    He added: "A number of clubs are at their maximum. So while it is a job that is not going to pay you handsomely, we did not really expect it to be a job; you turn out to practice at four o'clock and play on a Sunday or Monday. So you can get other jobs if you can. There is no way you can blame that on the league, because jobs are just not available or you are not job capable."

    Wrong approach, says 21-year-old Marvin Morgan of Waterhouse who believes the situation has to be remedied, as the players form the backbone of the league.

    "I think the governing body of football has to honour the players, because it is really the players that make everything possible. They have to look out for the players that are doing the work out there and make them comfortable."

    ryon.jones@gleanerjm.com

    http://jamaica-gleaner.com/gleaner/2...0xUWs.facebook
    "Never doubt that a small group of thoughtful, committed citizens can change the world. Indeed, it is the only thing that ever has."

  • #2
    Originally posted by Karl View Post

    Marvin Morgan of Waterhouse. - File
    Going to stray off topic for a while.

    The Gleaner could not find a pic of Morgan in his Waterhouse gear? How long now him playing for Waterhouse? Why so damn lazy!!!


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    • #3
      This is a nonsense article. What exactly is its purpose? If you look at the MLS salary scale, you have footballers making as little as US$35k per year. This would equate to the little chump change that Jamaican footballers make.
      Hey .. look at the bright side .... at least you're not a Liverpool fan! - Lazie 2/24/10 Paul Marin -19 is one thing, 20 is a whole other matter. It gets even worse if they win the UCL. *groan*. 05/18/2011.MU fans naah cough, but all a unuh a vomit?-Lazie 1/11/2015

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      • #4
        Originally posted by Jangle View Post
        This is a nonsense article. What exactly is its purpose? If you look at the MLS salary scale, you have footballers making as little as US$35k per year. This would equate to the little chump change that Jamaican footballers make.
        I have never quite understood the listed salaries as to breakdown. Players in MLS may receive contracted salary from MLS and or plus (?) also from contracted salary with the club.

        Is there ever a case where the entire salary is met by one or the other of MLS or club?

        Could salary from one party be less that the $35M/per low you referenced?

        I just
        Last edited by Karl; February 24, 2014, 11:50 PM.
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        • #5
          The real issue is the league does not generate revenue.. So show can it pay players. They may need a collective sponsorship approach and natl televison deal and other revenue tools to make that work.

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          • #6
            Simple economics, the leagues pays what it can afford. They must develop themselves educationally so they have something else to rely on for a source of income.
            Winning means you're willing to go longer, work harder, and give more than anyone else - Vince Lombardi

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            • #7
              The salaries are just low,Williams earning 80% more at Toronto isn't anything to make a big deal.
              Proportionately..., that salary too is alarmingly low too.
              Nevertheless,pathetic salary being paid a yard.

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              • #8
                Yet the RSPL clubs hold the player hostage with ridiculous transfer fee demands but only pay them chicken feed and sign them to long term contracts with poor buyout clauses.
                - Jamatl


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                • #9
                  i am sure it is more like 800%.

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                  • #10
                    It has to be 800% or the local salary is somehow good.

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                    • #11
                      Going know where

                      Originally posted by OJ View Post
                      The real issue is the league does not generate revenue.. So show can it pay players. They may need a collective sponsorship approach and natl television deal and other revenue tools to make that work.
                      The senior leagues are going now where and all these leagues will not generate much in in cash to senior football because players are not developed. Did any one watch the first Monday night football match? I did while I was in Jamaica and it was horrible and a sin to be shown to say we are developing players and the kids watching this match are not learning. Senior football has gone backwards and we see the results internationally. The league structure is not right and the entire country is loosing because it is attached to the JFF making it worst. They do not care about development or players. We are supposed to be fooled by a few crumbs given to club and the expectancy is to one day have pro football. Dream on. If the leadership remains in tact it will go further down the drain making football worse. Hammer on.......

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                      • #12
                        Going to stray off topic too,

                        This balla's legs and thighs look rather small though...

                        Bet i'm fulla mad skills....

                        Boys' Town's Michael Campbell. - File
                        The only time TRUTH will hurt you...is if you ignore it long enough

                        HL

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                        • #13
                          We're talking football, HL. Stick to sports you know.

                          Thanks!


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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by Pbanta View Post
                            The senior leagues are going now where and all these leagues will not generate much in in cash to senior football because players are not developed. Did any one watch the first Monday night football match? I did while I was in Jamaica and it was horrible and a sin to be shown to say we are developing players and the kids watching this match are not learning. Senior football has gone backwards and we see the results internationally. The league structure is not right and the entire country is loosing because it is attached to the JFF making it worst. They do not care about development or players. We are supposed to be fooled by a few crumbs given to club and the expectancy is to one day have pro football. Dream on. If the leadership remains in tact it will go further down the drain making football worse. Hammer on.......
                            As you have rightly alluded...ooooh so often...it is amazing that the JFF and other football stakeholders either cannot see or are too lazy to do anything about that relationship sales has with quality of 'the product'

                            I have been for years at opportunity lost. Tried my best to make input through refereeing (how quality refereeing assists in type/quality play), administration - active and representation to administrations (JFF and affiliate administrations on need to improve 'the product').

                            Also amazing to note attitudes held: These 2 also have had me cussing inside -
                            a) We cannot improve the product as we have no money or need more money;

                            b) Professionalism = being paid for work done.

                            I put it all down to failure within our education system.
                            i) We are taught at school...we have inculcated from our greatest learning years (early childhood period of our lives through young adulthood 18 - 23 years old) both formally (verbally and class work on) and by one of the greatest of teaching tools, physical example - 'adults doing and the young aping same' - note Mosiah, Gamma, etc. pronouncements on EDUCATION - that the sports discipline requires no high quality use of 'brain power', is a waste of time being given professional attention in our schools; a distraction...etc.

                            *Did anyone see Mosiah's recent post that to succeed at being a professional athlete is difficult when compared to becoming a Medical Doctor?

                            Did anyone see that knee-jerk reaction and wonder on why he did not equate the difficulty at achieving 'success' with a thought on comparison with other disciplines, say Nuclear Scientist, Astronaut...Real Estate Sales Representative - USA figures suggest 5% of Sales Agents make above $35,000/annually (or not a stretch to put another way - just about 94.9% earn at starvation rate) and only 1% make above $100,000/annually?

                            Context the general population: Anyone wondered on how %age population and we can be specific to JA - make more than U$35,000/annually? ...how difficult it is to financially succeed - PERIOD?

                            Wondered on what Mosiah was thinking?
                            ...but it is not about Mosiah - It is about our Education system that produces educated individual...with a first degree...who thinks as does a Mosiah when he puts his mind to discussing football.


                            Are our football leaders the products of the education system? ...what they absorbed? Were they brain-washed and now have a deep-seated imbedded reflexive through-process that displays self in a 'cho! 'the football' not worth professional attention' an attitude and that drives how they lead?

                            ii) poor teaching both classroom (academic subjects - inclusive of what was known as GP when I attended school in 6th form) and/plus specific to 'teaching the game of football'.

                            It is the same problem we have in producing consistently high levels of academic results - poor teachers followed by/with/resulting in poor results poor results. See - Stats on exam results; academic performances graph earliest grades through graduations; Trends published in our local media outlets.

                            Contact: Ministry of Education & Satistical Institute of Jamaica, Google articles on Jamaica education as published by our Media outlets and speeches by our Minister of Education.

                            iii) The inculcated and possible subconscious deep-seated position that to be a professional has little to do with conscious action but that being well paid makes one a suddenly act/perform/become a professional/start acting as top quality professional do. [Laughable nonsense!...dismissive...painful...].

                            Paul you are correct - We need new thinking within our 'football system'...and we need 'new leadership'.

                            Either the present leadership has 'eureka moment' or entirely new persons with entirely new approach to developing 'the football'...entire product from top to bottom.
                            Last edited by Karl; February 25, 2014, 10:47 AM.
                            "Never doubt that a small group of thoughtful, committed citizens can change the world. Indeed, it is the only thing that ever has."

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                            • #15
                              Cheers

                              Originally posted by Karl View Post
                              As you have rightly alluded...ooooh so often...it is amazing that the JFF and other football stakeholders either cannot see or are too lazy to do anything about that relationship sales has with quality of 'the product'

                              I have been for years at opportunity lost. Tried my best to make input through refereeing (how quality refereeing assists in type/quality play), administration - active and representation to administrations (JFF and affiliate administrations on need to improve 'the product').

                              Also amazing to note attitudes held: These 2 also have had me cussing inside -
                              a) We cannot improve the product as we have no money or need more money;

                              b) Professionalism = being paid for work done.

                              I put it all down to failure within our education system.
                              i) We are taught at school...we have inculcated from our greatest learning years (early childhood period of our lives through young adulthood 18 - 23 years old) both formally (verbally and class work on) and by one of the greatest of teaching tools, physical example - 'adults doing and the young aping same' - note Mosiah, Gamma, etc. pronouncements on EDUCATION - that the sports discipline requires no high quality use of 'brain power', is a waste of time being given professional attention in our schools; a distraction...etc.

                              *Did anyone see Mosiah's recent post that to succeed at being a professional athlete is difficult when compared to becoming a Medical Doctor?

                              Did anyone see that knee-jerk reaction and wonder on why he did not equate the difficulty at achieving 'success' with a thought on comparison with other disciplines, say Nuclear Scientist, Astronaut...Real Estate Sales Representative - USA figures suggest 5% of Sales Agents make above $35,000/annually (or not a stretch to put another way - just about 94.9% earn at starvation rate) and only 1% make above $100,000/annually?

                              Context the general population: Anyone wondered on how %age population and we can be specific to JA - make more than U$35,000/annually? ...how difficult it is to financially succeed - PERIOD?

                              Wondered on what Mosiah was thinking?
                              ...but it is not about Mosiah - It is about our Education system that produces educated individual...with a first degree...who thinks as does a Mosiah when he puts his mind to discussing football.


                              Are our football leaders the products of the education system? ...what they absorbed? Were they brain-washed and now have a deep-seated imbedded reflexive through-process that displays self in a 'cho! 'the football' not worth professional attention' an attitude and that drives how they lead?

                              ii) poor teaching both classroom (academic subjects - inclusive of what was known as GP when I attended school in 6th form) and/plus specific to 'teaching the game of football'.

                              It is the same problem we have in producing consistently high levels of academic results - poor teachers followed by/with/resulting in poor results poor results. See - Stats on exam results; academic performances graph earliest grades through graduations; Trends published in our local media outlets.

                              Contact: Ministry of Education & Satistical Institute of Jamaica, Google articles on Jamaica education as published by our Media outlets and speeches by our Minister of Education.

                              iii) The inculcated and possible subconscious deep-seated position that to be a professional has little to do with conscious action but that being well paid makes one a suddenly act/perform/become a professional/start acting as top quality professional do. [Laughable nonsense!...dismissive...painful...].

                              Paul you are correct - We need new thinking within our 'football system'...and we need 'new leadership'.

                              Either the present leadership has 'eureka moment' or entirely new persons with entirely new approach to developing 'the football'...entire product from top to bottom.
                              Well today a former member of the JFF 98 W/C administration mentioned to me the new appointments for the coaches for the JFF. Nothing has changed and we go back into the past vs the future. I'm sure it will be in the news soon. God can only save our football in Jamaica but He will not until the foolishness is gone.

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