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    I won't do it again! Anelka finished with controversial 'quenelle' celebration after West Brom demand answers from striker
    • Anelka sparked controversy with celebration against West Ham
    • Gesture is said to be an inverted Nazi salute
    • Frenchman Anelka insists it was a dedication to a friend
    • He faces a minimum five-game ban as the FA investigate
    By Laurie Whitwell
    PUBLISHED: 10:29 EST, 30 December 2013 | UPDATED: 12:42 EST, 30 December 2013 8 shares
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    Nicolas Anelka has vowed not to repeat his controversial 'quenelle' goal celebration after West Brom demanded he explain his actions at West Ham on Saturday.
    Anelka celebrated a goal by touching a shoulder with one hand, keeping the other arm pointed downwards, in a gesture that is said to be an inverted Nazi salute.

    The striker said after the match that the action was a tribute to his friend, French comedian
    Dieudonne M'bala M'bala, and insisted that he did not mean to cause any offence.

    A statement from West Brom on Monday read: 'Nicolas was asked to explain his goal celebration by caretaker head coach Keith Downing within minutes of the game finishing at West Ham.

    'Nicolas said that he performed the gesture to dedicate his goal to a friend and vehemently denied having any intention to cause offence.
    'Upon reporting for training this morning, Nicolas was asked by sporting and technical director Richard Garlick to give a full explanation about his goal celebration, during which he again strongly denied intending to cause offence.

    Watch Nicolas Anelka's alleged racist goal celebration







    Gesture: Nicolas Anelka celebrates the first of his two goals against West Ham in the 3-3 draw

    Level best: Anelka scores West Brom's first equaliser, the goal which he celebrated controversially



    WEST HAM 3 WEST BROM 3


    Read the match report from Upton Park here


    'The club fully acknowledge that Nicolas' goal celebration has caused offence in some quarters and has asked Nicolas not to perform the gesture again. Nicolas immediately agreed to adhere to this request.
    'The club is aware that the FA is investigating the matter and has offered its full cooperation. The club will continue to make its own enquiries - a process which will remain confidential between the club and Nicolas.
    'Nicolas is eligible for matches whilst the FA carries out its investigation. Therefore Nicolas will remain under consideration for first team selection whilst the FA and the club continue their enquiries.'
    Downing added: 'Nico has trained normally. He has been out there on Monday and trained like he did last week.

    'He has made the comment in terms of the situation. He didn't mean to offend anyone. That's all we can say.
    'It would have been nice to have talked about his performance but there is a distraction to it and we will have to find out on Tuesday how it all is.'
    When asked if the row had taken the shine off his spell in charge, Downing said: 'I would like to have concentrated on the football, it has been a real examination for the football club - including myself and the players.






    Friends: West Brom acting head coach Keith Downing says that the gesture was a dedication from Anelka (right) to his French comedian friend Dieudonne (left), which Anelka reiterated on Twitter


    Doubling up: Anelka (left) is on the spot to score West Brom's second goal of the afternoon




    CAUGHT UP IN THE RACE ROW


    Mamadou Sakho

    The Liverpool defender was pictured twice doing the gesture, once with Dieudonne, last
    month. But he later said he did not know what it meant and had been ‘tricked’.

    Yannick Sagbo

    The Hull forward tweeted a picture of Anelka’s celebration and wrote: ‘Anelka is a legend i love him is a best french striker’ and included a message of support for Dieudonne.


    'We have come through a very difficult period after the shock news of the manager going and the players have responded positively.'

    Anelka faces a minimum five-match ban from the FA. He is set to become the first player sanctioned under rules brought in by English football’s governing body in May to combat racist behaviour.

    The European Jewish Congress have called for police involvement and for Anelka to receive the same punishment that would be handed down for a Nazi salute.
    On Sunday night the Metropolitan Police said it takes all allegations of hate crime seriously and will consider whether action is required.
    The FA are consulting anti-racism campaigners Kick It Out and Jewish community groups.

    The new guidelines mean that Anelka, if found guilty, can receive at least five matches and it could be ‘significantly’ longer. No timescale has been placed on when a decision will be reached. It is not a fast-track case and could take some time due to the sensitivities and seriousness of the allegations.

    Anelka, 34, a practising Muslim, is said to be astonished at the controversy and tweeted that he was only giving a ‘special dedication’ to his comedian friend M’bala M’bala, who regularly uses the gesture on stage.

    Dieudonne has convictions for spreading race hate, and last week interior minister Manuel Valls announced that ‘all legal means’ to ban Dieudonne from making public appearances were being considered, saying: ‘He attacks the memory of Holocaust victims in an obvious and unbearable way.’


    Controversial: This picture of Samir Nasri (left) apparently performing the 'quenelle' was on social media sites


    Dieudonne and his supporters claim it is merely an anti-Zionist, anti-establishment signal and the 47-year-old has threatened to sue those suggesting otherwise.

    The gesture has gone viral on social media and two soldiers were sanctioned by the French army in September for performing it in uniform in front of a Paris synagogue.
    A Facebook page in support of the pair published a picture in November of Samir Nasri apparently performing the gesture outside Manchester City's training ground.
    The picture was republished on Twitter the day after Anelka's celebration at Upton Park but Sportsmail understands Nasri was unaware of the anti-Semitic or political connotations surrounding the gesture.


    Support: QPR defender Benoit Assou-Ekotto tweeted a message to Anelka after his celebration


    He is believed to have performed the act because of its popularity among people in France. He is also believed to know nothing about the controversy surrounding it.

    And QPR defender Benoit Assou-Ekotto was on Twitter supporting Anelka after the West Ham game.
    The message is difficult to translate as it is in French text speak but it is close to 'I congratulate you on the beautiful Quenelle.'

    Anelka was also on Twitter on Sunday night to insist that his gesture had no religious or anti-Semitic connection. He wrote: ‘Meaning of quenelle: anti-system. I do not know what the word religion has to do with this story!’

    Downing: Anelka celebration "dedicated to a French comedian"








    Fooled: Liverpool defender Mamadou Sakho (right) was pictured making the same gesture as Anelka but later claimed he was tricked into doing it


    ‘The quenelle is a dedication to Dini. With regard to the ministers who give their own interpretations they are the ones who create the confusion and controversy without knowing what the gesture really means! I shall therefore ask the people not to be duped by the media. And of course, I am neither anti-Semitic nor racist.’

    Dieudonne applauded Anelka in a post on his Facebook page. ‘Excellent live quenelle by Anelka,’ he wrote. ‘Thanks for the support.’
    But Anelka’s actions were roundly criticised elsewhere. Valerie Fourneyron, the French sports minister, said: ‘Anelka’s gesture is a shocking, disgusting provocation. There is no place for anti-Semitism and incitement to hatred on the football pitch.’


    Controversial: French humorist Dieudonne arriving for a trial at the Paris courthouse on December 13

    Chantal Jouanno, the former sports minister and a senator in Paris, said: ‘The quenelle is a Nazi gesture, clearly anti-Semitic and known as such. It is not worth arguing about interpretation. We must be clear about our values. He must be punished.’

    European Jewish Congress president Dr Moshe Kantor wants Anelka dealt with as if he ‘had made the infamous outstretched arm salute’ of the Nazis.

    ‘It is sickening that such a well-known footballer would make such an abusive and hateful gesture in front of tens of thousands of spectators. We expect that the English Premier League officials as well as the police will give Anelka the appropriate punishment.’

    Political protest: A man poses with a drawing showing a Jew character covering the mouth of an other character with a gag reading 'freedom of speech' during a protest in support of Dieudonne



    Defiant: A group performs the 'quenelle' salutes in front of the theatre Dieudonne's performing at
    A lengthy ban for Anelka may signal the end of his career, with rumours of his retirement already emerging earlier this season.
    Hull forward Yannick Sagbo tweeted a picture of Anelka’s celebration and called him a ‘legend’ while expressing support for Dieudonne.
    Other footballers have been pictured making the gesture, including Mamadou Sakho last month. But the Liverpool defender later said he had been tricked.





    WHAT IS 'LA QUENELLE'?


    When West Brom striker Nicolas Anelka scored the first of his two goals in Saturday's 3-3 Premier League draw at West Ham, he celebrated by making a gesture largely unfamiliar to fans of English football.

    But the salute, known in France as 'la quenelle', is the subject of a fierce national debate that has reached the French interior ministry and stands accused of sparking a spate of attacks across Anelka's homeland.

    Here, we explore the origins of the controversial gesture and the motives of its self-proclaimed inventor, the stand-up comedian and political activist Dieudonne M'Bala M'Bala:
    • 'Quenelle' means 'scoop' or 'dumpling' and is performed by holding one arm straight by one's side while touching that arm's shoulder with the opposite hand.
    • It has been described by its critics as a 'Nazi salute in reverse' and, thusly, as an expression of anti-Semitism.
    • Forty-seven-year-old M'Bala M'Bala, who goes by the stage name of Dieudonne, has turned the 'quenelle' into something of a viral trend since first performing it four years ago.
    • Once a committed anti-racism campaigner, Dieudonne has since been linked to the political far right in France.
    • French interior minister Manuel Valls is considering banning all public performances by the comedian. In the wake of Anelka's public use of the gesture, which the player stated was simply a 'special dedication' to his good friend Dieudonne, French minister for sport Valerie Fourneyron described his actions as 'shocking' and 'disgusting'.
    • Anelka has previously been photographed performing the gesture alongside Dieudonne but Saturday's events brought the debate to England while provoking further outrage and debate in France, where the match was televised.
    • Dieudonne, who has past convictions for making anti-Semitic remarks, insists the 'quenelle' is merely 'an anti-establishment gesture' but his critics are concerned about its motivation.
    • When Dieudonne insulted Jewish radio presenter Patrick Cohen this week, French interior minister Manuel Valls vowed to use any legal means necessary to ban any future public appearances by the comedian. Valls told newspaper Le Parisien: 'Dieudonne has been repeatedly condemned for defamation, insult and incitement to racial hatred. He is a repeat offender and I intend to act with the greatest firmness, under the law.'
    • The English Football Association is considering opening an investigation into the possible connotations of the salute. FIFA rules state: '1. a) Anyone who offends the dignity of a person or group of persons through contemptuous, discriminatory or denigratory words or actions concerning race, colour, language, religion or origin shall be suspended for at least five matches. Furthermore, a stadium ban and a fine of at least CHF 20,000 shall be imposed. If the perpetrator is an official, the fine shall be at least CHF 30,000.'




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    Hey .. look at the bright side .... at least you're not a Liverpool fan! - Lazie 2/24/10 Paul Marin -19 is one thing, 20 is a whole other matter. It gets even worse if they win the UCL. *groan*. 05/18/2011.MU fans naah cough, but all a unuh a vomit?-Lazie 1/11/2015

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    • #32
      Sorry, I thought it was Bolt there for a moment. Second take I see it was not.
      "Only when you drink from the river of silence shall you indeed sing. And when you have reached the mountain top, then you shall begin to climb. And when the earth shall claim your limbs, then shall you truly dance." ~ Kahlil Gibran

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      • #33
        All Black people look alike???
        Hey .. look at the bright side .... at least you're not a Liverpool fan! - Lazie 2/24/10 Paul Marin -19 is one thing, 20 is a whole other matter. It gets even worse if they win the UCL. *groan*. 05/18/2011.MU fans naah cough, but all a unuh a vomit?-Lazie 1/11/2015

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        • #34
          Come on Jangle! I was here posting without my glasses on.
          "Only when you drink from the river of silence shall you indeed sing. And when you have reached the mountain top, then you shall begin to climb. And when the earth shall claim your limbs, then shall you truly dance." ~ Kahlil Gibran

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          • #35
            Originally posted by Tilla View Post
            Come on Jangle! I was here posting without my glasses on.
            Old Age have you running pass Karl.....lol.....how often do I get to pull Tilla's legs.
            Hey .. look at the bright side .... at least you're not a Liverpool fan! - Lazie 2/24/10 Paul Marin -19 is one thing, 20 is a whole other matter. It gets even worse if they win the UCL. *groan*. 05/18/2011.MU fans naah cough, but all a unuh a vomit?-Lazie 1/11/2015

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            • #36
              "Only when you drink from the river of silence shall you indeed sing. And when you have reached the mountain top, then you shall begin to climb. And when the earth shall claim your limbs, then shall you truly dance." ~ Kahlil Gibran

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              • #37
                yaad fowl easy fi ketch.....
                Hey .. look at the bright side .... at least you're not a Liverpool fan! - Lazie 2/24/10 Paul Marin -19 is one thing, 20 is a whole other matter. It gets even worse if they win the UCL. *groan*. 05/18/2011.MU fans naah cough, but all a unuh a vomit?-Lazie 1/11/2015

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                • #38
                  True, and I know it's more than semantics.. so if "discriminatory" or "prejudiced" or some synonym is appropriate, my point stands.
                  Peter R

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                  • #39
                    Gamma, these things are the purview of the anthropologists and I for one am sometimes confused. My understanding for example of who a "Caucasian" is, include whom we refer to as "Indian", i.e. from the Indian sub-continent.
                    Peter R

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                    • #40
                      Originally posted by Gamma View Post
                      why? who decided to exclude the arabs? that is where the headscratching comes in ... i have hear arabs being referred to as anti-semitic ... huh?
                      Read the article. It explains it.
                      "H.L & Brick .....mi deh pan di wagon (Man City)" - X_____ http://www.reggaeboyzsc.com/forum1/showthread.php?p=378365&highlight=City+Liverpool#p ost378365

                      X DESCRIBES HIMSELF - Stop masquerading as if you have the clubs interest at heart, you are a fraud, always was and always will be in any and every thing that you present...

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                      • #41
                        i don't know that it EXPLAINS it but yes it is addressed.

                        Infidelity does not consist in believing, or in disbelieving; it consists in professing to believe what he does not believe. Thomas Paine

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                        • #42
                          French comic Dieudonne 'must pay racism fines'
                          "Donovan was excellent. We knew he was a good player, but he really didn't do anything wrong in the whole game and made it difficult for us."
                          - Xavi

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                          • #43
                            Nicolas Anelka: West Brom sponsor Zoopla to end deal

                            West Brom sponsor Zoopla have decided to end their sponsorship of the club at the end of the season over Nicolas Anelka's "quenelle" gesture. Anelka, 34, made the sign, described as an inverted Nazi salute and declared by some to be anti-Semitic, after scoring against West Ham on 28 December 2013.

                            Zoopla, co-owned by Jewish businessman Alex Chesterman, will focus on other marketing activities.

                            (continue)
                            "Donovan was excellent. We knew he was a good player, but he really didn't do anything wrong in the whole game and made it difficult for us."
                            - Xavi

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                            • #44
                              I personally believe that athletes should not abuse/take advantage of (pick your term) their situation before literally millions to promote their own particular agenda, whether "worthy" or not (by community standards).

                              IF Anelka wants to be anti-system he should do that on his own time, not while on the job for his employer.
                              Peter R

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                              • #45
                                FA charges Anelka over gesture

                                West Brom's Nicolas Anelka faces a minimum five-match ban if found guilty by the Football Association of making the controversial "quenelle" gesture.

                                The striker made the sign, described as an inverted Nazi salute, after scoring against West Ham on 28 December.

                                Anelka was given a 34-page document detailing the allegations and has until 18:00 GMT on Thursday to respond.

                                (continue)
                                "Donovan was excellent. We knew he was a good player, but he really didn't do anything wrong in the whole game and made it difficult for us."
                                - Xavi

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