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  • Liverpoolites lets huddle ...Peter&Paul !

    What is going on with FSG,we have no one running the ship.Are they trying to scuttle it and build it anew , with a new direction and philosophy,No director of football no communication manager?

    Players might revolt!come on 2 cup finals, true 8th isnt acceptable but the character of KD play was to fight,players hitting the woodwork isnt his fault ?

    True i had issues with the midfield, something I am sure he would have fixed.

    We dont need another manager , spending a season buttering Ferraud and carragher egos , only to find out they have passed their prime from 2009, like KD did.


    If not Rafa, then dutch or german for me.
    THERE IS ONLY ONE ONANDI LOWE!

    "Good things come out of the garrisons" after his daughter won the 100m Gold For Jamaica.


    "It therefore is useless and pointless, unless it is for share malice and victimisation to arrest and charge a 92-year-old man for such a simple offence. There is nothing morally wrong with this man smoking a spliff; the only thing wrong is that it is still on the law books," said Chevannes.

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    The King is gone: what next for LFC?
    By Si Steers On May 17, 2012 · Add Comment · In Opinion
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    A look at the departure of Kenny Dalglish from Liverpool and what the potential next moves might be by FSG

    So, the King has gone. Long live the King. The latest twist in the FSG ‘grand plan’ has taken another turn; but what does it mean for the future of Liverpool? On the face of it; the club looks a complete and utter mess at this point; there is no clear leadership and the lack of communication has created a void which is being filled by rumour and speculation.

    Ian Ayre claims that the ‘Liverpool Way’ is to keep things in house; away from the prying eyes of the media. But the landscape football operates in has changed completely since the days of Shankly; it is our failure to adapt with it that
    has seen so many wrong decisions and a lack of progress over the past two decades.

    It is important to start at the heart of the matter: by sacking Kenny Dalglish FSG have taken a huge gamble; the power of Liverpool’s fan base should never be underestimated, as Hicks and Gillette found out. Whilst many Liverpool fans were asking for a change: Dalglish is a hero and idol to those at the core of the support; he embodies the culture of Liverpool; he is the club’s heart and soul. To dispense with him in such a ruthless way is a clear sign that the ‘Liverpool way’ is changing.

    Was sacking Dalglish the right decision? In the longer term, maybe it was. But what was wrong was the clinical nature of it; the leaks through twitter and the media before there had been any official confirmation. Dalglish leaving the club was always the biggest fear I had about him coming back, especially if it was against his wishes. Any parting of ways should have been far more dignified; and in a manner that recognised the service given to Liverpool by one of its greatest ever servants. But, as with a number of other PR disasters this season, the club and the owners let themselves down, and more importantly they let Dalglish down.

    The manner in which FSG operate is very much unique to private equity; ruthless. Having worked in a communications role for a firm owned by a private equity house; I do have a bit of an insight into how decisions are made; and also some ideas about how the future may unfold. I have written a few articles on the structure at Liverpool FC and how I see it playing out. I genuinely believe the new structure at Liverpool will be similar to the one I suggested a few weeks ago.

    The frustrating thing is that I believe FSG are a progressive owner; I believe they are looking long term and the decisions they are making are the tough decisions to take the club forwards. But; what is missing is the context to decision making. From a communications perspective; the owners have failed to articulate the journey the club is on to its most important stakeholders, its supporters. This means that decisions are taken at face value; with no real understanding of why they have been taken or what they mean. If you want supporters to understand; you have to take them on the journey with you: thus far, FSG have failed to do that.

    I know that is probably a communications failure: the departure of Cotton was not just related to Suarez. I have recently written an article for Paul Tomkins on PR & Comms at Liverpool FC that looks at some of the issues the club faces from a communications perspective. But, to summarise, the club desperately needs to get better at taking hold of its messaging and narrative. The lack of messaging coming out of the club is leading to a breakdown in trust: very easy to lose, but much harder to build.

    I have spoken before about the need for a cultural shift at Liverpool; for everyone connected with the club to stop looking backwards and start looking forwards. We have got to find a way to integrate our past with our future; everybody from the owners through to the supporters needs to start thinking ‘what needs to be done to progress the club’. That will sometimes mean tough decisions; we shouldn’t shy away from them, but on the flipside we should also be respectful and true to our values when making and announcing them; which is where I believe we failed with Dalglish.

    What next?

    As I touched upon in my ‘fit for the future’ article I believe that either AVB or Martinez would be progressive appointments. But neither would work in isolation; they would both need a strong Director of Football behind them. In the FSG ideology the Director of Football role is the vital one. The manager is there to deliver the strategy on the pitch; but the DoF is there to devise it.

    That is why I believe there will be no announcement on the manager role until a Director of Football is appointed. Whilst the media and supporter focus will be on the manager in the UK; the owners focus will be on a DoF in the US. Whilst I’d love to see Rafa back, I don’t believe it is a reality, not least because I don’t think he is the right fit into FSG’s preferred structure.

    I believe the time to judge whether FSG have got it right over Dalglish or not will be when announcements are made on new appointments. If it is a Cryuff / AVB combination: that on paper looks appealing for example. Whilst I think it is right that owners have attracted criticism for how they managed Dalglish leaving; it is the next stage in the story where they really have to be judged.

    It is also essential that we get the right appointments in place in the administrative functions as soon as possible. Key to that is the appointment of a CEO; and as I have repeatedly said I believe that there is a possibility that will be Brian Barwick. He is already working in an advisory capacity (fact); and his understanding of the FA, media past, and leading an organisation through change in an attempt to modernise seem to me to be exactly what Liverpool needs; especially if you consider his lifelong support of the club.

    Also important is the vacant Director of Communications role. It is an area that the club needs to nail; I expect to see a big hitter come in either from the sporting sector or perhaps an ex-journalist. Somebody that understands the media landscape; and how modern communications work. I then expect to see a far more integrated approach to communications; with far more control over messaging and narrative.

    I expect all of this to happen soon, days and weeks rather than months.

    The key message to supporters I think is that the destabilising effect of change is sometimes a false mask to progress. Whilst nobody knows what is happening (yet); I do believe that the FSG methodology is analytical and strategic: these decisions will not have been taken without a clear plan in place.

    The way I am trying to look at the current situation is that the club is entering a new phase of development. We have stabilised our finances, and we now have a clear idea of what needs to be done on the pitch and off it. In my article the transition from digression to progression I touched upon how a change in direction may be the path to progress: and I believe that is the view of the owners.

    One thing is clear; the owners have to now start delivering. The natives are restless; and unless a clear plan is put in place for the club to progress soon, those noises will only get louder.

    Finally: it is important to say that Kenny Dalglish will always be my Liverpool hero. What he has achieved as a player and manager, what he has given as a man is up there with Shankly and Paisley. He is an architect of the Liverpool we have today, and always will be a Liverpool legend. He is the heart and soul of what Liverpool Football Club means. I have always worshipped Kenny Dalglish; and I always will. He came to our rescue in our hour of need; and he deserves our eternal thanks.

    It is important to remember that Liverpool Football Club is special to so many people for memories Dalglish has given us. That will never change.
    THERE IS ONLY ONE ONANDI LOWE!

    "Good things come out of the garrisons" after his daughter won the 100m Gold For Jamaica.


    "It therefore is useless and pointless, unless it is for share malice and victimisation to arrest and charge a 92-year-old man for such a simple offence. There is nothing morally wrong with this man smoking a spliff; the only thing wrong is that it is still on the law books," said Chevannes.

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    • #3
      Originally posted by X View Post
      What is going on with FSG,we have no one running the ship.Are they trying to scuttle it and build it anew , with a new direction and philosophy,No director of football no communication manager? Players might revolt!come on 2 cup finals, true 8th isnt acceptable but the character of KD play was to fight,players hitting the woodwork isnt his fault ? True i had issues with the midfield, something I am sure he would have fixed. We dont need another manager , spending a season buttering Ferraud and carragher egos , only to find out they have passed their prime from 2009, like KD did. If not Rafa, then dutch or german for me.
      X, Dalglish is gone. He should be gone. The article you posted gives the impression that he was let go ruthlessly. I would beg to differ. As I understand it, KD basically told them he manages or he leaves. Given the ultimatum, Henry and Werner have to stare him down or else you have the situation that AVB had with Terry/Lampard at Chelsea where the underlings run the club. I don't think there is a Liverpool fan alive that doesn't thank KD for his effort and his heartfelt commitment. But he failed. And it was an expensive failure. You just can't deny 37 points off the top, 6 home wins, the lowest goal return in our history etc. etc. All KD's issue. Did he deserve more time - no. He had a year and a half and 120m pounds, 8th doesn't cut it. We should thank him for his service, keep our arms and doors open for him forever and always respect his high station in our hierarchy.

      Okay, so what now? i agree with the article that the next steps are crucial. Were I running the club:

      0. Appoint a great PR person. Make sure they control the media on all developments at LFC.

      1. Appoint an interim or permanent COO or CEO. That person needs to be a recognized and respected person - even if you bring them on temporarily.

      2. Focus on retaining key players. This is where Gerrard and Carra need to step up and make sure that players like Agger, Kuyt, Reina, Suarez and Skrtel stay put. If I were John Henry, I'd call an immediate meeting with all of them and lay it out, hear what they have to say and take it seriously.

      3. Break open the check book for a PROVEN manager. I would stay away from the Brendan Rodgers, Martinez, Lambert crowd and look for a Rijkaard, Hiddink or Klopp. I would not bring in Rafa unless he was the only one available.

      4. Make it clear to the entire squad that while winning the Carling Cup was great, 8th place is beneath our ability. Next year it is a minimum 4th but that we are going to bust open the checkbook and challenge for the title.

      5. Give the supporters tangible signs that the club means business: 1) give clear direction on the new stadium 2) give a clear set of objectives and their role - e.g. image, support, feedback etc. and a clear understanding of what is minimally acceptable and what is not.

      That's pretty much it. I think as with all businesses, getting the "right people on the bus" is critical. We can't go another 3 years without UCL football or we'll end up like Leeds (note that JW Henry is taking out 120m loan on the club to fund transfers). It is all pretty simple to see, but execution will require serious nerves and steel.

      YNWA
      "H.L & Brick .....mi deh pan di wagon (Man City)" - X_____ http://www.reggaeboyzsc.com/forum1/showthread.php?p=378365&highlight=City+Liverpool#p ost378365

      X DESCRIBES HIMSELF - Stop masquerading as if you have the clubs interest at heart, you are a fraud, always was and always will be in any and every thing that you present...

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      • #4
        I wont argue about him leaving , although i disagree with it , my thing is what next ?as you said that is crucial, 4 managers in two years !
        THERE IS ONLY ONE ONANDI LOWE!

        "Good things come out of the garrisons" after his daughter won the 100m Gold For Jamaica.


        "It therefore is useless and pointless, unless it is for share malice and victimisation to arrest and charge a 92-year-old man for such a simple offence. There is nothing morally wrong with this man smoking a spliff; the only thing wrong is that it is still on the law books," said Chevannes.

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        • #5
          Originally posted by X View Post
          I wont argue about him leaving , although i disagree with it , my thing is what next ?as you said that is crucial, 4 managers in two years !
          I can't see Martinez being the answer. Oh boy...hold on to your seats!!! It's gonna be one hell of a ride!!!!
          "H.L & Brick .....mi deh pan di wagon (Man City)" - X_____ http://www.reggaeboyzsc.com/forum1/showthread.php?p=378365&highlight=City+Liverpool#p ost378365

          X DESCRIBES HIMSELF - Stop masquerading as if you have the clubs interest at heart, you are a fraud, always was and always will be in any and every thing that you present...

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          • #6
            My fear also , cant deal with jangle mouth fi annada year.
            THERE IS ONLY ONE ONANDI LOWE!

            "Good things come out of the garrisons" after his daughter won the 100m Gold For Jamaica.


            "It therefore is useless and pointless, unless it is for share malice and victimisation to arrest and charge a 92-year-old man for such a simple offence. There is nothing morally wrong with this man smoking a spliff; the only thing wrong is that it is still on the law books," said Chevannes.

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            • #7
              Originally posted by Paul Marin View Post
              I can't see Martinez being the answer. Oh boy...hold on to your seats!!! It's gonna be one hell of a ride!!!!
              Him cant do any worse than king Kenny!!

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              • #8
                Stop Dunny, the man dem already in depression.

                Nuh tell them Martinez is going to talk with Liverpool FC. LOL
                • Don't let negative things break you, instead let it be your strength, your reason for growth. Life is for living and I won't spend my life feeling cheated and downtrodden.

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                • #9
                  Yuh think it easy winning titles ? Ask Arsenal dem win any in 7years Btw ask Sass ow im rate Shelton ..a was dis psychic and trim?
                  THERE IS ONLY ONE ONANDI LOWE!

                  "Good things come out of the garrisons" after his daughter won the 100m Gold For Jamaica.


                  "It therefore is useless and pointless, unless it is for share malice and victimisation to arrest and charge a 92-year-old man for such a simple offence. There is nothing morally wrong with this man smoking a spliff; the only thing wrong is that it is still on the law books," said Chevannes.

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by X View Post
                    Yuh think it easy winning titles ? Ask Arsenal dem win any in 7years Btw ask Sass ow im rate Shelton ..a was dis psychic and trim?
                    A how many Premiership title Liverpool win?

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by Dunny View Post
                      A how many Premiership title Liverpool win?
                      We have been loafin' on purpose. By the way, a how much Champions League unuh win? Jes axin...
                      "H.L & Brick .....mi deh pan di wagon (Man City)" - X_____ http://www.reggaeboyzsc.com/forum1/showthread.php?p=378365&highlight=City+Liverpool#p ost378365

                      X DESCRIBES HIMSELF - Stop masquerading as if you have the clubs interest at heart, you are a fraud, always was and always will be in any and every thing that you present...

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                      • #12
                        None,Champions League titles are a no go for London clubs LOL!!

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                        • #13
                          man how you can make up things so? What you mean rate Shelton?

                          What you talking about?
                          • Don't let negative things break you, instead let it be your strength, your reason for growth. Life is for living and I won't spend my life feeling cheated and downtrodden.

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                          • #14
                            twist turn and burn,so who you want to lead the Rbyz forward line.
                            THERE IS ONLY ONE ONANDI LOWE!

                            "Good things come out of the garrisons" after his daughter won the 100m Gold For Jamaica.


                            "It therefore is useless and pointless, unless it is for share malice and victimisation to arrest and charge a 92-year-old man for such a simple offence. There is nothing morally wrong with this man smoking a spliff; the only thing wrong is that it is still on the law books," said Chevannes.

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                            • #15
                              next time you ask before you start making up stories.
                              • Don't let negative things break you, instead let it be your strength, your reason for growth. Life is for living and I won't spend my life feeling cheated and downtrodden.

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