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    Until he returned to the manager's job he wished he had never left, Kenny Dalglish had an ambassadorial role for Liverpool. He had a range of suitable qualities - the Scot's natural diplomatic skills have shone through, especially in his handling of the Luis Suarez affair, and he always has a ready supply of Ferrero Rocher on hand - but most of all he is steeped in the club where he enjoyed such success on the pitch and in the dugout from 1977 to 1991. Since he succeeded Roy Hodgson he has become synonymous with Liverpool again, eclipsing even his captain, Steven Gerrard.
    This has had its advantages. He took over a side with genuine concerns about relegation, freshly beaten by Wolves and Blackburn, and about to go down at Blackpool in his first league game as caretaker. But in his initial deep embrace he was able to galvanise the squad from late January to mid-May last year and seemed on course for a European place until Tottenham won at Anfield in the penultimate game. Sceptical outsiders such as myself had doubted the wisdom of the appointment - "It is unlikely that New England Sports Ventures, or their representatives on earth - the Fenway Sports Group - consider the 60-year-old Scot to be a candidate to be the long-term manager" - but he found the magic wand that Hodgson had maintained did not exist, and thereby won the permanent job.
    The downside has come this season, as he has destroyed large quantities of goodwill with cack-handed attacks on referees and by so badly mismanaging events arising from the confrontation between Suarez and Patrice Evra. There have been good moments - the Carling Cup victories against Chelsea, Manchester City and Cardiff, and reaching the FA Cup semi-finals - but in the recent league slump the analyses have concentrated on the Scot and players who can be held against him. Match Dalglish's Premier League run in 2012 with Hodgson's from August to December 2010 and the Reds really would be heading for relegation, leading naturally to questions about the manager's future, the cup runs notwithstanding.
    One thing Dalglish has not shied away from is yoking his name to whatever has happened at Anfield. However poorly a player has fared, the backing he has received has been full to the point of fulsome, at times nauseating to many. If we stick to perceived footballing failings, then Dalglish has embraced responsibility for Andy Carroll unfailingly, despite the fact that at the time the Newcastle forward was signed the Scot was four weeks into his spell as mere caretaker.
    The principal owner has also tried to shoulder some of the burden placed on the record signing, John Henry saying that Liverpool named their price for Fernando Torres as £15m plus Andy Carroll, with Chelsea paying what Newcastle wanted. £50m for Torres, given his performances since, certainly looks like a good deal in mitigation. But there remains the question of the identifying of Carroll as the man to bring in, even if there was a shortage of candidates as deadline day approached. It is the manager who faces the press week in, week out and is asked and, when he chooses, answers the questions. When they have been about his players he has been unequivocal. Everyone else in a club's hierarchy lives in the shade when that manager personifies the club to this extent.
    This, naturally, is why the person who nominally inspired this article does not get a mention until a few hundred words in. Damien Comolli has left the club, the director of football saying: "I am grateful to have been given the opportunity to work at Liverpool and am happy to move on from the club and back to France for family reasons."
    It is safe to say that "family reasons", like the "mutual consent" mentioned by the club, will carry quotation marks unless proved otherwise and immediately Comolli's name is being linked with that of Carroll - the hero of added time at Blackburn but of too little else. Yet, oddly, such has been the success of Dalglish's embrace of Carroll, Comolli all but escaped mentions in some recent analyses of the failings of the players so expensively signed since Hodgson's departure (Paul Little's piece here was of course an honourable exception).
    On Carroll, Comolli cannot have it both ways, despite Dalglish's backing of the player. Either the striker was signed with the Frenchman's full recommendation and endorsement or else he allowed himself to be railroaded into the purchase by a mere caretaker (if Dalglish can be a "mere" anything). A machiavellian manager could take the opportunity of such a senior colleague departing to making sure that his cases were well-stuffed with past, present and possibly future blame.
    Yet Dalglish, asked about the Frenchman, was as solid in his fraternité with Comolli as with anyone else at Anfield. "I had a fantastic working and personal relationship with Damien since he came here," he said. "It is disappointing but I suppose there is not much in football which comes as a surprise."
    The Scot could have left it at that, leaving plenty of wriggle room for his allies to place the blame for certain signings on someone who was no longer there. But he proceeded to back Comolli with the determination he has supported Carroll, Suarez, Jordan Henderson and Stewart Downing.
    "He has been really helpful in every transfer target we've gone for," the manager continued, doubling down on every fresh member of his squad. "Everyone who has come into the club since Damien has been here was of my choice. Once I made the choice who I wanted Damien went away and did a fantastic job of bringing them in. It is sad to see anyone leave the football club and he goes with my best wishes and hopefully it is not long before we meet again. We wish him well with everything that he does."
    Speculation will centre around whether Comolli is replaced, and whether the continental model of using a director of football will ever be truly established at Anfield or anywhere in this country. Where does the development leave Fenway Sports Group's modified version of baseball's Moneyball? Does Comolli's French leave strengthen or weaken the position of the manager?
    Definitive answers to these questions will remain elusive until the summer at least. What we can say for sure is that Comolli will be no more than a footnote in Liverpool history compared to the manager's many chapters and that, while Dalglish may have many faults, insufficient loyalty is not one of them.


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    "It therefore is useless and pointless, unless it is for share malice and victimisation to arrest and charge a 92-year-old man for such a simple offence. There is nothing morally wrong with this man smoking a spliff; the only thing wrong is that it is still on the law books," said Chevannes.

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    As has been pointed out to me by lots of lovely people on Twitter, in the F365 Mailbox, and via the comments pages, the Winners & Losers prediction that Everton would beat Liverpool in the FA Cup semi-final hasn't exactly gone to plan.
    Of course, in the first half it wasn't looking a bad bet, with Jamie Carragher and Daniel Agger conspiring to present Nikica Jelavic with a simple finish to put Everton ahead. Indeed, the defensive mix-up was indicative of the mistakes that have blighted the Reds in recent weeks and seen them slip below their Merseyside rivals in the Premier League.
    However, what I didn't count on - rather foolishly - was the incredible spirit Kenny Dalglish has instilled in his Liverpool team. Despite the disappointing league position, deserved criticism of his prickliness, and doubts surrounding his future, ultimately it should be acknowledged that Dalglish has achieved, not wonders, but at least a great deal since his return in January 2011.
    The Reds were on their knees, divided and self-destructing under Roy Hodgson, when King Kenny answered the call. In just 15 months he has transformed them from a team devoid of fight to one that doesn't know when to give in. And this doesn't only apply to the cups, for although Liverpool have at times been clueless in their quest for Champions League football, they haven't failed for a lack of effort, typified by the guts the ten men showed against Blackburn.
    Dalglish has created a striking unity within the squad. He has backed his players to the hilt and they have followed suit to defend their teammates. Steven Gerrard's first thoughts after the semi-final success were to praise the contribution of Andy Carroll following the intense scrutiny of the striker. Gerrard said: "He doesn't hide and he takes criticism on the chin. Certain players have had criticism this week but they've stood up today."
    Brad Jones joined the captain in his sentiments, and it was touching to see Steve Clarke wait behind for the goalkeeper to give him a congratulatory hug, after everyone else had already made their way to the changing rooms. There was a warmth about Liverpool at the end and, for a moment, we 'outsiders' were allowed to enjoy it. To appreciate it, even. David Moyes may have believed that every neutral was rooting for Everton, but few would have begrudged Liverpool their win, especially after the rousing fight-back. Perhaps the Reds' first-half performance meant they usurped Everton's claim as the underdogs.
    If there is a 'Liverpool way', then Dalglish knows it better than anyone. Even the departed Damien Comolli has felt the reassuring arm of the manager's loyalty, which at times has seemed misguided. For all his belligerence, though, the Scot is a man of principles. It's a moral code that many of us may struggle to understand, but nevertheless it always serves to protect Liverpool, and somewhere in the middle of that Dalglish deserves credit.
    The striking unity is also coming along. Before Saturday's game, Dietmar Hamann said of Carroll on Talksport: "If he doesn't come up with a big performance tomorrow I think you have to give up on him because I think people have been watching (his performances) for 15/16 months and he's just not done it." But Carroll's contribution has improved markedly in the past two months, with two winning goals in a week reward for his efforts. There are early signs of a partnership developing between the England international and Luis Suarez, with next season providing a final opportunity for Dalglish's chosen front two to function.
    Before we reach that point, though, Liverpool have another final to contest and will feel confident against either Chelsea or Spurs, with both potential opponents exerting themselves in pursuit of fourth place. There will be a tinge of envy in the Reds in that they don't find themselves in a similar position, but their achievements elsewhere are to be savoured. League Cup victory brought a first trophy in six years and was already a significant return this season, but FA Cup success would considerably upgrade the evaluation in Dalglish's end-of-year report.
    Despite their league woes, Liverpool are piecing their winning mentality back together. If Dalglish can cultivate confidence in the cups, in time it can be transferred to the league. He deserves another season for what has been achieved so far. In ten years' time, will fans look back on the current campaign and care about missing out on fourth, or will it be the memories of two finals that count? Even as an outsider, I'm certain of what the answer will be.
    Matthew Stanger - continue to give him stick on Twitter.
    Yeah lets not get carried away with the fact they just beat a team that paid for a team put together with shirt buttons and toffee wrappers and have excelled and punched far above their weight due to arguably one of the best managers ever to be in the league....could you imagine if Liverpool had Moyes as a manager?? frankly the thought would be unimaginable as the trophy cupboard would need reinforcing he is that good...and possibly the glory years of title winning dominance would return...Sadly liverpool is being managed by a has been whilst Everton is being managed by a Has nothing... But it won't stop the kop from crowing in besting their arch rivals.....
    THERE IS ONLY ONE ONANDI LOWE!

    "Good things come out of the garrisons" after his daughter won the 100m Gold For Jamaica.


    "It therefore is useless and pointless, unless it is for share malice and victimisation to arrest and charge a 92-year-old man for such a simple offence. There is nothing morally wrong with this man smoking a spliff; the only thing wrong is that it is still on the law books," said Chevannes.

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      Moneyball Statistics and Damien Comolli
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        By Andrew Beasley.
        (Statistics correct up to and including matches played on 8th April 2011. Stats sourced from EPLIndex.)
        In the latest ‘Secret Footballer‘ column in The Guardian, the unnamed Premier League player made some very interesting claims about which statistics are valued by Liverpool’s former director-of-football Damien Comolli:
        “At Liverpool Comolli has relied more heavily on the so-called “Moneyball philosophy” (which, irritatingly, has also infiltrated my club), which argues, among other things, that a team that wins more than 40 headers, or crosses the ball more than 30 times or makes 12 regains in the final third, will nearly always win”.
        I found this information fascinating, as it is (to my knowledge at least) the first set of hard numbers regarding Moneyball and its potential influence upon recruitment and tactics that have made it out from behind closed doors and into the wider world. (Moneyball seems to be the term given to statistical analysis of any kind these days, whether or not it fits into what the actual Moneyball baseball philosophy was. For this piece, I will refer to it as such, simply because the Secret Footballer uses it.)
        If it has infiltrated the Secret Footballer’s club then it’s reasonable to assume that he knows what he’s talking about, even if he doesn’t appear to be a fan himself.
        Whilst the data for number of headers won is sadly not available to me, I have been able to compile figures both for crossing and final third regains (which I will refer to as FTRs) to attempt to establish if the Secret Footballer speaks the truth about the match-winning numbers, and also to try to ascertain how much influence Comolli had at Anfield.
        Having read the above theory that the target for FTRs is twelve per match, I was disappointed to see that Liverpool have yet to achieve that at all this season (the 0-0 draw at Anfield with Tottenham Hotspur saw this season’s best performance on this metric, with nine). The Reds’ average of 3.31 per match also seemed hugely underwhelming.
        Until I looked up the figures for the rest of the Premier League that is; whilst a long way short of the supposed figure of twelve required to potentially win a game, it turns out that Liverpool have the highest number of FTRs per match in the division.
        The Secret Footballer may perhaps have his figures for this particular metric wrong, or perhaps twelve FTRs is a much harder target to achieve per match than thirty crosses or forty headers, but it certainly appears to be a statistic of interest to Comolli as the Reds are currently the best team at it.
        Unfortunately the figures are only available for this season, so there are only twenty sets of data for the following graph, but the correlation between points-per-game and FTRs-per-game does appear to justify Comolli’s stance:

        As with quite a few things this season (woodwork hits and clear-cut-chance scoring to name but two), Liverpool are a statistical outlier here who have earned fewer points than they have probably deserved. Whilst acknowledging that the data available here is limited, it is apparent that fifteen of the twenty teams in the division are fairly closely correlated using these numbers. Therefore, if Liverpool can continue to be the best team in the Premier League at FTRs, then I am confident that results can take a turn for the better.
        Due to last season’s data being unavailable, I am unfortunately unable to consider if the players that were bought last summer fared well at FTRs previously. However, a look at this season’s figures illustrates that the new boys (and especially Jordan Henderson) are outperforming a few of the old guard at Anfield:

        While Shelvey has performed well at this during his limited pitch time, the real star here is Luis Suárez; his figure of twenty-three FTRs is the highest of any player in the Premier League this season, and indeed only five other players in the division have more than fifteen. If these statistics are as important as they appear, then Suárez is absolutely essential to how Liverpool should play.
        Obviously we have no way of knowing how much influence Comolli had in Liverpool’s impressive record surrounding FTRs, though the figures do at least back up the Secret Footballer’s claims about him. But about crosses? Here’s a look at how many crosses the Reds have attempted per league game in the last four years:
        It’s clear that Liverpool have been crossing more during this campaign (which was the first full season that Comolli had at the club, don’t forget) than in the previous three years, and it’s very interesting to note that the average figure per game has been 30.3, putting the Reds in line with the magic number provided by the Secret Footballer in his column. From the previous four seasons of Premier League football, only the Manchester United team of 2009/10 crossed the ball more than this year’s Liverpool side, and only 0.1 times more per game at that.
        To break last season’s figures down further, Roy Hodgson’s team averaged 22.8 crosses per game, as opposed to the 20.5 attempted by Kenny Dalglish’s 2010/11 side. Whilst we don’t know who exactly is responsible for the various changes in tactics and personnel since last season, for a manager to have seen an almost 50% increase in the number of crosses per game is clear numerical evidence of a radical switch in how his team plays.
        This supposed Moneyball theory states that by making more than thirty crosses in a game a team will more than likely win, but has that been the case for the Reds this season? Interestingly, not one opposing team has broken the thirty cross barrier against Liverpool during this campaign. Here are the league matches from this season where the Reds have attempted over thirty crosses:
        Whilst Liverpool might be adhering to this Moneyball statistical theory relating to crossing, it doesn’t appear to have done them too much good; only two wins from fifteen matches – and none from the nine games with the highest number of crosses – and a disappointing overall points-per-game tally of 0.93, which is relegation form in anyone’s language.
        Conversely, the Reds have taken 1.71 points-per-game from their league matches when they have crossed the ball thirty times or less; as that points figure has been enough to secure fourth place in three of the last five seasons, it’s clearly a lot closer to where Liverpool want to be, and so suggests that this particular Moneyball strategy may not be entirely the right way to go. Could this large difference in points-per-game have played a part in the dismissal of Damien Comolli?
        That said, of the thirteen games listed above that Liverpool failed to win, there are quite a few that they should have won on the balance of play, so perhaps there’s life in this crossing theory yet. I have plotted a graph of the crossing data against the points-per-game for every team in the last four Premier League seasons, and it does show a degree of positive correlation:

        If we make the not-too-radical assumption that Manchester United will win the Premier League this season, then we can say that the champions from the last four seasons (and also the Liverpool side of 2008/09, the best performing runners-up on a points-per-game basis in history) have all crossed the ball at least 26.3 times per game, compared to a league average of 23.1. Perhaps there is something in this particular Moneyball crossing theory after all?
        Suggesting cause-and-effect on this would be unwise though, as merely crossing the ball will obviously not win games on its own (the quality of the cross being clearly relevant too, as is the amount of players in the box to receive any pass from out wide). Or do the best teams cross the ball more often simply because they have so much more possession and territorial advantage that even if they infrequently cross by their standards, the overall numbers will still be high? Whether in reality it’s a valid way to play or not, the figures back up the Secret Footballer claims.
        A look at who has crossed the ball most frequently this season for Liverpool can perhaps explain why certain players have been favoured in Kenny’s team selections:
        Pure speculation on my part here, but if Comolli and Dalglish decided that frequent crossing was the way to go, and the stats suggest that the possibility that they did, then the above figures could go a long way to explaining why the likes of Downing and Henderson have seen more time on the pitch than Kuyt and Maxi for instance.
        Similarly, if we look at the figures for 2010/11, both for a selection of the Liverpool players from that season, as well as the players that were brought in last summer, it’s hard not to think that crossing frequency played a part in the recruitment process:

        It’s also worth noting that Downing, Henderson and Adam were all the most frequent crossers at their respective clubs last season. Whilst it has long been assumed that chance creation was the primary reason behind the purchases Liverpool made last summer, these figures certainly suggest that how the chances were created was relevant too. If that is the case however, shouldn’t the fact that Downing and Henderson have been crossing less frequently than last season be a cause for concern? Or is it down to the fact that they are now just one crossing option, whereas at their previous clubs they were the main crosser, including set-pieces and corners?
        Having now crunched the numbers myself, I may not know who the Secret Footballer is, but I’m certain he knows his stuff regarding a specific Moneyball theory, and its possible influence upon Liverpool FC, too.
        Regarding the apparent switch in tactics from last season to this, my personal theory is that the stats Comolli provided showed that playing as we have in this campaign would be more successful, so he convinced FSG and Dalglish that this was the way to go. As the tactics have in fact proved less successful than last season, Comolli was sacked whilst Dalglish remains.
        That’s not to say that I think Comolli has picked the tactics and the players entirely on his own with Dalglish as a figurehead; far from it. But I do think that he could easily have made a convincing argument to a board with a history of using statistics to their benefit, and that Dalglish could have bought in to it too.
        The acid test for my theory will obviously be how Liverpool play in the future; if the Reds revert to the type of football that lead them to be the third best team in the division during Dalglish’s tenure last season, and with similar results, then the decision to dump Comolli will be justified. It’s a big ‘if’ at this point though.
        For Paul Tomkins’ take on the Comolli exit yesterday, read here.

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      THERE IS ONLY ONE ONANDI LOWE!

      "Good things come out of the garrisons" after his daughter won the 100m Gold For Jamaica.


      "It therefore is useless and pointless, unless it is for share malice and victimisation to arrest and charge a 92-year-old man for such a simple offence. There is nothing morally wrong with this man smoking a spliff; the only thing wrong is that it is still on the law books," said Chevannes.

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        This story is such tripe. Who gives a **** why Comolli left? Who cares whether it was Comolli or Dalglish or John Henry to blame? At the end of the day - TEAM - means that everyone lives or dies by another team member's actions. And their ain't nothing wrong with that.
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        X DESCRIBES HIMSELF - Stop masquerading as if you have the clubs interest at heart, you are a fraud, always was and always will be in any and every thing that you present...

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