Why all this uproar over the U17 competition?

[Mac]

<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt">First, is it unusual to change the competition format during the competition, yes.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>Is there some rule against making this change, no.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN><P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><?xml:namespace prefix = o ns = "urn:schemas-microsoft-comfficeffice" /><o></o><P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt">This U17 competition is the qualification for the CONCACAF U17 final round qualification.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN><?xml:namespace prefix = st1 ns = "urn:schemas-microsoft-comffice:smarttags" /><st1:country-region><st1lace>Jamaica</st1lace></st1:country-region> is hosting one of the two final groups so <st1:country-region><st1lace>Jamaica</st1lace></st1:country-region> is already qualified for the final round.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>So the goal for <st1:country-region><st1lace>Jamaica</st1lace></st1:country-region> should be to use this <st1lace>Caribbean</st1lace> competition to prepare for qualification for the U17 World cup.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>CONCACAF now has 5 spots for the U17 world cup so <st1:country-region><st1lace>Jamaica</st1lace></st1:country-region> has a GREAT chance to make it.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>So the goal should be preparation.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>Winning the title of <st1lace>Caribbean</st1lace> champion means nothing unless you have no ambition to make it to the World cup.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>The second placed <st1lace>Caribbean</st1lace> team will also qualify for the final CONCACAF round qualifying games.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN><P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><o></o><P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt">So, with this change, the only <st1lace>Caribbean</st1lace> team that benefits is <st1:country-region><st1lace>Jamaica</st1lace></st1:country-region> because we now get to prepare against better quality team that we will have to mean in the CONCACAF qualifying rounds and be better prepared for the U17 World cup.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>The team that are hurt are the other <st1lace>Caribbean</st1lace> team who now lose the chance to play against better quality team to improve their own play. <SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"></SPAN><P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><o></o><P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt">These current set of games should be used to prepare our team for the final goal of qualification to the U17 world cup and as such, playing better quality team will only be a benefit.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN><st1:country-region><st1lace>Mexico</st1lace></st1:country-region>, <st1:country-region><st1lace>Canada</st1lace></st1:country-region> and <st1:country-region><st1lace>Panama</st1lace></st1:country-region> are using these games as part of their preparation and so the change in format also benefits them because they now get to play against better teams.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>People should be complaining about the format change because it is less of a benefit to the whole <st1lace>Caribbean</st1lace> teams as a whole to play against quality teams.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>Winning the <st1lace>Caribbean</st1lace> championship in this competition means nothing.<P class=MsoNorm

[Mosiah]

RE: Why all this uproar over the U17 competition?

Mac (8/22/2006)<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt">First, is it unusual to change the competition format during the competition, yes.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>Is there some rule against making this change, no.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN><P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><?xml:namespace prefix = o ns = "urn:schemas-microsoft-comfficeffice" /><o></o><o></o><P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt">Respect

<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt">Are you serious? There is no rule against changing...why bother.<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt">sigh

[Reggae-Fan]

RE: Why all this uproar over the U17 competition?

[quote]Mac (8/22/2006) <P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt">First, is it unusual to change the competition format during the competition, yes.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>Is there some rule against making this change, no.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN><P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><?xml:namespace prefix = o ns = "urn:schemas-microsoft-comfficeffice" /><o></o><P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt">This U17 competition is the qualification for the CONCACAF U17 final round qualification.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN><?xml:namespace prefix = st1 ns = "urn:schemas-microsoft-comffice:smarttags" /><st1:country-region><st1lace>Jamaica</st1lace></st1:country-region> is hosting one of the two final groups so <st1:country-region><st1lace>Jamaica</st1lace></st1:country-region> is already qualified for the final round.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>So the goal for <st1:country-region><st1lace>Jamaica</st1lace></st1:country-region> should be to use this <st1lace>Caribbean</st1lace> competition to prepare for qualification for the U17 World cup.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>CONCACAF now has 5 spots for the U17 world cup so <st1:country-region><st1lace>Jamaica</st1lace></st1:country-region> has a GREAT chance to make it.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>So the goal should be preparation.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>Winning the title of <st1lace>Caribbean</st1lace> champion means nothing unless you have no ambition to make it to the World cup.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>The second placed <st1lace>Caribbean</st1lace> team will also qualify for the final CONCACAF round qualifying games.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN><P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><o></o><P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt">So, with this change, the only <st1lace>Caribbean</st1lace> team that benefits is <st1:country-region><st1lace>Jamaica</st1lace></st1:country-region> because we now get to prepare against better quality team that we will have to mean in the CONCACAF qualifying rounds and be better prepared for the U17 World cup.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>The team that are hurt are the other <st1lace>Caribbean</st1lace> team who now lose the chance to play against better quality team to improve their own play. <SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"></SPAN><P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><o></o><P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt">These current set of games should be used to prepare our team for the final goal of qualification to the U17 world cup and as such, playing better quality team will only be a benefit.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN><st1:country-region><st1lace>Mexico</st1lace></st1:country-region>, <st1:country-region><st1lace>Canada</st1lace></st1:country-region> and <st1:country-region><st1lace>Panama</st1lace></st1:country-region> are using these games as part of their preparation and so the change in format also benefits them because they now get to play against better teams.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>People should be complaining about the format change because it is less of a benefit to the whole <st1lace>Caribbean</st1lace> teams as a whole to play against quality teams.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>Winning the <st1lace>Caribbean</st1lace> championship in this competition means n

[Lazie]

RE: Why all this uproar over the U17 competition?

"Winning the <?xml:namespace prefix = st1 ns = "urn:schemas-microsoft-comffice:smarttags" /><st1lace>Caribbean</st1lace> championship in this competition means nothing."

Maybe not to you Mac ... what about the players? People can play blind all dem want ... it is abundantly clear what the aim of Jack ... sorry, the CFU is.

[Siya]

RE: Why all this uproar over the U17 competition?

They have proven time and time again that they will try to win competitions by taking the easiest route possible and then brag for years how only Brazil are better than them. If this is about giving the Caribbean teams a better chance at qualification then WHY WERE BOTH CUBA AND JAMAICA PUT INTO THE SAME FIRST ROUND GROUP WHEN THERE WAS ONLY ONE CERTAIN QUALIFIER FROM EACH GROUP.

See Mac the reason I ask this question is because Cuba has been spanking Trinidad at almost every level over the last few years so I dont think it is a stretch to say that if the "CFU" was looking to help the Caribbean do well in the qualifiers they would have been promoting Cuba to get there... and please don't tell me it's the luck of the draw that Cuba and Jamaica were placed in the same group because we see that there is no real 'draw' going on here... the only thing draw right now is a nasty card. But I give you props on one thing they always help Jamaica prepare better by giving us the supposedly harder draw in most competitions that we enter. HAITI JAMAICA AND CUBA WILL NOT GET AWAY FROM TOUGH FIRST ROUNDS ANYTIME SOON at least as long as the man from that little cesspool of a country is the President of the CFU.

[OJ]

RE: Why all this uproar over the U17 competition?

I see both arguments. I would rather the tougher competition. However I could see where one could argue that Burrell oops I mean the CFU dont want Jamaica to repeat. Having said that I think it will make the boys stronger but at the crux of the issue is you cannot change the format in the middle of the competition.

[Mitty]

RE: Why all this uproar over the U17 competition?

I think we should see how this thing plays out before we start attacking Jack. Jamaica has advance to the CFU U-16 final and concacaf U-16 final group stage.

[Gamma]

RE: Why all this uproar over the U17 competition?

so this is what nyamdirt has been up to!!!!!!?!!!

we should take this out on them on september six and give them one of those behind the woodshed deals!!!

[Sickko]

RE: Why all this uproar over the U17 competition?

I wonder where the CFU's Senior VP was when all this was going down? I assume since I have no other evidence to the contrary that the decision was taken at a full meeting of the CFU executive since Jack the Ripper could not just consult with his son and decide to make the switch like that.



Maybe the Forum can show some teeth and demand the Senior VP show some accountability.



Afterall the RBz forum must serve some purpose other than to serve as a blog.

[Mosiah]

RE: Why all this uproar over the U17 competition?

<DIV>I wonder if you'd be willing to wait and see if we hadn't beaten Canada yesterday. Or if T&amp;T hadn't lost, sorry, drawn with Barbados.</DIV><DIV></DIV><DIV>Like I said before, it matters not if we give or receive 10-0 with Mexico, the rules should never have been changed. And I can appreciate their (CFU) believing that this format is better, but it still should not have been done! Follow through with the structure in place. You've got to! </DIV><DIV></DIV><DIV>Thereafter, you deal with the idiot who messed up with the format in the first place.</DIV>

[Karl]

RE: Why all this uproar over the U17 competition?

Sickko (8/22/2006)I wonder where the CFU's Senior VP was when all this was going down? I assume since I have no other evidence to the contrary that the decision was taken at a full meeting of the CFU executive since Jack the Ripper could not just consult with his son and decide to make the switch like that.

Maybe the Forum can show some teeth and demand the Senior VP show some accountability.

Afterall the RBz forum must serve some purpose other than to serve as a blog.

Not hitting you directly...but, the anti-Burrell faction wants to have it all sort of different ways all at once.

a) Jack is a bitch! He has always been doing 'things' to benefit Trinidad and Tobago. (Which ofcourse means he has done this to Jamaica during Burrell's reign)...

...and, also at the same time...

b) It is Burrell's fault he is working behind the scene to haveBoxhill fail...

The logic is crazy!

I am still asking, how was thedecision to make the change done?

I am happy to see that, after "a" &amp; "b" aboveyou are suggesting adding of thetheory that the decisioncould have been one made by the CFU Executive?

I am sure there are other possible ways the decision could have been made.I would love to know that "the how"?

[Peter R]

RE: Why all this uproar over the U17 competition?

FYI I believe that Sep 6 is a REGGAEGIRLZ game, not that it should make a difference.

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