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    Is Lionel Messi the King of Clubs? Watched

    Argentina again last night and Messi was simply ... missing.
    I could see the clear frustration on his face. I guess he was saying to himself he should have switched to Spain ... he would be a world cup winner right now.
    "Jamaica's future reflects its past, having attained only one per cent annual growth over 30 years whilst neighbours have grown at five per cent." (Article)
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    he has more chemistry with those guys ... the was basically trained to play with them ... argentina is a stranger to him

    Infidelity does not consist in believing, or in disbelieving; it consists in professing to believe what he does not believe. Thomas Paine

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    • #3
      Argentina has no midfield plain and simple, there's no way messi will be as productive when playing with the likes of Mascherano, Cambiaso and Banega in compariosn to xavi, iniesta and busquests.

      The great Pele would have problems scoring with that supply line.

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      • #4
        Pele would make then better.
        He was more into TEAM - i.e. passing and moving...than Messi.

        He was besides scoring goals..always making goals for his TEAMmates.

        Messi lives in a cocoon at Barcelona - many carriers of 'wood and water' around him.

        Playing for Argentina he must also do...more of the carrying...join in the carry to great degree...to make his TEAM better...and - surprise!!!!! - get for himself more goalscoring opportunities.
        "Never doubt that a small group of thoughtful, committed citizens can change the world. Indeed, it is the only thing that ever has."

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        • #5
          curious...how many assists di messi have last season? let me check.

          Infidelity does not consist in believing, or in disbelieving; it consists in professing to believe what he does not believe. Thomas Paine

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            hmmmm he led la liga in assists ... 18 .... more than xavi and iniesta ..... whaddaya know. an anti team player who leads in goals AND assists!! come to think of it ... that was what TH14 did year in year out....

            Infidelity does not consist in believing, or in disbelieving; it consists in professing to believe what he does not believe. Thomas Paine

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            • #7
              Originally posted by Gamma View Post
              hmmmm he led la liga in assists ... 18 .... more than xavi and iniesta ..... whaddaya know. an anti team player who leads in goals AND assists!! come to think of it ... that was what TH14 did year in year out....
              How many goals he scored for Barcelona? ...was that a result of 'the carrying and fetching around him'? ...and I wonder how many goals he scored when there were TEAMmates around that if he had 'rolled' the ball across...it would have been merely 'blowing on it' for a goal?

              Lowe scored a lot for Jamaica...

              Wonder how many times Barcelona lost the ball directly as a result of Messi's 'work'?

              TH14 in his last few years was great at breaking down the GUNNERS attack by 'hogging' the ball.

              Look give every goalscoring opportunity to any one player...he shall outscore every other person on his TEAM. Simple - He would have scored all the goals...he it was who got all the opportunities.

              ...so what do you think would occur if such a person got 90% of the goalscoring opportunities...or 80%...or 70%...or 60%...or 50%...???

              It does not necessarily mean the goalscorer played well. It just means he got nuff-nuff chances to score.
              Last edited by Karl; July 7, 2011, 12:56 PM.
              "Never doubt that a small group of thoughtful, committed citizens can change the world. Indeed, it is the only thing that ever has."

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              • #8
                karl...are you now arguing with facts?!!!! consistently inconsistent! in la liga, he scored 31... next was david villa who scored ... my my my 18 .... pedro score 13

                Infidelity does not consist in believing, or in disbelieving; it consists in professing to believe what he does not believe. Thomas Paine

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                • #9
                  One thing I never dispute are facts.

                  ...and once again just for the record - Messi is an extra-ordinary player!
                  "Never doubt that a small group of thoughtful, committed citizens can change the world. Indeed, it is the only thing that ever has."

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                  • #10
                    who not only scores but provides assists.... and leads the tem in both how damn selfish can one player be!

                    Infidelity does not consist in believing, or in disbelieving; it consists in professing to believe what he does not believe. Thomas Paine

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                    • #11
                      Much like last year at the world cup, after a long season he has nothing left in the tank.
                      Winning means you're willing to go longer, work harder, and give more than anyone else - Vince Lombardi

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                      • #12
                        barca football is unique and that is what he was fed on. it is easier for spain to replicate barca, than for messi to thrive outside of barca.

                        can you imagine if messi di play for spain?

                        Infidelity does not consist in believing, or in disbelieving; it consists in professing to believe what he does not believe. Thomas Paine

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                        • #13
                          They would have won the world cup in 2006.
                          Winning means you're willing to go longer, work harder, and give more than anyone else - Vince Lombardi

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                          • #14
                            karl, i am giving my greatest effort at understanding what you are arguing about... messi is CLEARLY an unselfish TEAM PLAYER... it doesn't matter where he plays, he is an UNSELFISH TEAM PLAYER... leads his club in scoring and assists... whats there to dispute...

                            he had a long season, it is undestandable if he not in his best form... further, he needs more time with his argentina teammates to gel... just not enough games together...
                            'to get what we've never had, we MUST do what we've never done'

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                            • #15
                              [quote=Baddaz;299056]karl, i am giving my greatest effort at understanding what you are arguing about... messi is CLEARLY an unselfish TEAM PLAYER... it doesn't matter where he plays, he is an UNSELFISH TEAM PLAYER... leads his club in scoring and assists... whats there to dispute...

                              he had a long season, it is undestandable if he not in his best form... further, he needs more time with his argentina teammates to gel... just not enough games together...[/quote]

                              but Baddaz, all the players in Europe nuh have long season too? Tevez, Jefe, Higuian to name a few all had long seasons too. I defended him same way in the world cup ... but now I have to wonder if he is ... as Jawge would say, King of Clubs.
                              "Jamaica's future reflects its past, having attained only one per cent annual growth over 30 years whilst neighbours have grown at five per cent." (Article)

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