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  • #16
    Paul i hear you, they are corrupt but that change will come from within,Fifa has solidified a game of solicitation by pitting rich against poor, east against west, north against south, christian against muslim,ole europe against new europe,government against government and they will exploit it to their gain.its a beast that plays on the humans instinct of fear of domination by another, class creed , religion and greed exploited under the banner of bringing the world together and spreading football to uplift poor people.

    How do you defeat that ? dem affi fall pan dem sword and they will implode.tief nuh love tief wid lang bag.

    I for one am not into western europe or america having a big say in FIFA , dem aguh lef poor people out.
    Last edited by Sir X; December 17, 2010, 11:38 AM.
    THERE IS ONLY ONE ONANDI LOWE!

    "Good things come out of the garrisons" after his daughter won the 100m Gold For Jamaica.


    "It therefore is useless and pointless, unless it is for share malice and victimisation to arrest and charge a 92-year-old man for such a simple offence. There is nothing morally wrong with this man smoking a spliff; the only thing wrong is that it is still on the law books," said Chevannes.

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    • #17
      Originally posted by X View Post
      Paul i hear you, they are corrupt but that change will come from within,Fifa has solidified a game of solicitation by pitting rich against poor, east against west, north against south, christian against muslim,ole europe against new europe,government against government and they will exploit it to their gain.its a beast that plays on the humans instinct of fear of domination by another, class creed , religion and greed exploited under the banner of bringing the world together and spreading football to uplift poor people.

      How do you defeat that ? dem affi fall pan dem sword and they will implosion.tief nuh love tief wid lang bag.

      Well, if we have to wait until they fall on their sword, you and me will be long gone before that happens. The old guard will be replaced by a new set of cronies as the system feeds on corruption. In other words, no replacement for Blaater will come to power without using corrupt methods, and so the cycle will repeat itself.
      "H.L & Brick .....mi deh pan di wagon (Man City)" - X_____ http://www.reggaeboyzsc.com/forum1/showthread.php?p=378365&highlight=City+Liverpool#p ost378365

      X DESCRIBES HIMSELF - Stop masquerading as if you have the clubs interest at heart, you are a fraud, always was and always will be in any and every thing that you present...

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      • #18
        A suh it set, how long it a gwaan already?
        THERE IS ONLY ONE ONANDI LOWE!

        "Good things come out of the garrisons" after his daughter won the 100m Gold For Jamaica.


        "It therefore is useless and pointless, unless it is for share malice and victimisation to arrest and charge a 92-year-old man for such a simple offence. There is nothing morally wrong with this man smoking a spliff; the only thing wrong is that it is still on the law books," said Chevannes.

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        • #19
          this is the house that joao havelange built!

          Infidelity does not consist in believing, or in disbelieving; it consists in professing to believe what he does not believe. Thomas Paine

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          • #20
            Dem jus cyaan win everytin argument done. Dem nuh get cup inna recent times aready. "Di bull buck an duppy conqueror attitude nah guh wuk inna everyting sarry. Yuh know how dem feelings hurt when dem kyaan tell people wah fi duh, an nuff country haffi wait suh dem haffi wait to. Mek dem guh siddung, Englan hab a case more dan dem.

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            • #21
              hinglan' fi shaddup and siddung tuh!!

              Infidelity does not consist in believing, or in disbelieving; it consists in professing to believe what he does not believe. Thomas Paine

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              • #22
                Yuh may right bout dat, an yuh know seh mi ah nuh Englan supportah. But, at least dem hab di time since dem last host di ting pan dem side. Ah tink yuh was a stanch EPL an Englan fan like most

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                • #23
                  Jack Warner (football executive)

                  From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

                  The Honourable
                  Austin Warner
                  MPMinister of Works and Transport
                  IncumbentAssumed office
                  28 May 2010Prime MinisterKamla Persad-BissessarPreceded byColm ImbertMember of Parliament
                  for Chaguanas West

                  IncumbentAssumed office
                  05 November, 2007Preceded byConstituency establishedMajority18,352 (93%)
                  May 24, 2010CONCACAF President
                  IncumbentAssumed office
                  1990Preceded byJoaquin Soria TerrazasBorn26 January 1943 (age 67)
                  Arouca, Trinidad and TobagoPolitical partyUnited National Congress(UNC)Alma materUniversity of the West IndiesAustin "Jack" Warner (born January 26, 1943) is a Trinidad and Tobago football executive and businessman and a FIFA Vice-President and CONCACAFPresident. He is also the Minister of Works and Transport of Trinidad and Tobago and an elected member of that country's parliament. A former school teacher (history), he is the owner of Joe Public F.C., a professional football club based in Tunapuna, Trinidad and Tobago.[1] He also is acting prime minister of Trinidad and Tobago whenever the prime minister is out of the country.
                  Warner has been a member of the FIFA Executive Committee since 1983, and CONCACAF President since 1990. His Presidential term will end in 2011.[2]
                  Contents

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                  [edit]Early life

                  Austin Jack Warner was born in Rio Claro, south Trinidad on January 26, 1943. One of three brothers and three sisters, they were brought up almost single handedly by their mother Stella.[3] Warner attended the St Theresa’s Roman Catholic School, and after his parents moved to Longdenville in 1953, transferred to Longdenville primary school. After gaining a scholarship from Trinidad Clay Products, he attended the College of St Phillip’s and St James, which in 1958 became Presentation College, Chaguanas. After attending Teachers Training College, he then graduated with a BA degree from theUniversity of the West Indies at St Augustine, and subsequently earned a Diploma in International Relations from the same institution.[4][not in citation given]
                  [edit]History lecturer

                  In 1971, Warner became a teacher at North Eastern College, and was also at this time until 1973 a part time sociology lecturer at UWI. From 1972 until 1993, he was a lecturer in history at the Polytechnic Institute.[5]
                  [edit]Football administrator

                  In 1966, Warner became General Secretary of the Central Football Association, and from 1971-73 was General Secretary of the Central St. George Football Association.[5]
                  Warner became the secretary of the Trinidad and Tobago Football Federation (TTFF) in 1973. In 1990 he was elected President of the Caribbean Football Union, resigning his post at TTFF but was immediately appointed a special advisor, a position that he still holds.[3]
                  In 1983, Warner became a CONCACAF Vice-President and also joined the FIFA Executive Committee[5]. Warner was elected CONCACAF President in 1990, unseating Joaquin Soria Terrazas who had held the seat for twenty years[6]. Warner and the new CONCACAF General Secretary, Chuck Blazer ,took over an organization with U$140,000 in annual revenue[7] and Blazer has claimed that they now have revenue of more than U$40 million. Warner was appointed as a FIFA Vice-President in 1997[5]. In 2010, Warner stated his intent to stand for re-election in 2011, he highlighted CONCACAF's financial strength and the federation's resulting ability to provide support to its members.[8].
                  Jack Warner is the chairman of the Joe Public Football Club which he founded in 1996, in the aftermath of Trinidad and Tobago's failed World Cup qualifying campaign. Warner also helped to found Trinidad and Tobago's Professional Football League (PFL), then the first professional football league in the Caribbean, which has since been superseded by the TT Pro League.
                  In 1998, Warner purchased the Scarlet Ibis Hotel in St Augustine for TT$6 million,[9] which he renovated and renamed the Emerald Apartments and Plaza. Run by Warner's son Daryl, the Emerald Apartments and Plaza sponsor local football competitions, including the 2010 Eastern Football Association Emerald Apartments & Plaza Cup. Warner also owns Kantac Plaza[9] in Arouca, which was used as the base for Trinidad and Tobago's successful 2006 World Cup qualifying campaign.[10] Warner had other real estate holdings in the twin island republic, including the offices used by TTFF andCONCACAF. Warner also claims business interests in Costa Rica and the United States. Warner states that his investments were funded from "the salary and allowances I received from FIFA"[9].
                  [edit]Controversies

                  [edit]Trinidad and Tobago 2006 World Cup bonuses

                  Before the 2006 FIFA World Cup, Warner, as special advisor to TTFF, brokered a deal between the Federation and the players on Trinidad and Tobago's 2006 World Cup team to share the proceeds from their participation in the World Cup. After the tournament the Federation declared revenue of TT$18.25 million, costs of TT$17.9 million and offered the players a split of TT$5,644.08 per player. The players rejected this figure, disputing the Federation's numbers. Warner criticized the players for refusing to accept the TTFF's unaudited statement, saying “What Trinidad is suffering from is from a situation whereby 16 or 18 players are holding a country and a federation to ransom because of greed.”[11][12]
                  Shaka Hislop, the interim president of the Football Players Association of Trinidad and Tobago, responded with a letter to Warner writing “You have continually proven yourself heavily biased and opinionated in this matter.” In 2010, Hislop added that ""Jack Warner, though not on the TTFA officially, makes every single decision: how much bonus should be paid, who is the right coach."[13]
                  The Trinidad and Tobago government revealed that the Federation received in excess of TT$173 million for their part in the tournament in Germany.
                  TTFF proposed that the bonus dispute be heard before the UK Sports Dispute Resolution Panel, which the players agreed to. Arbitrator Ian Mill QC heard the case and ruled that Warner had “the authority of the TTFA to commit it to financial transactions" and that the players were entitled to 50 per cent of the FIFA World Cup participation money and the commercial revenues gained from Trinidad and Tobago's qualification, as well as half the net income from World Cup warm-up matches.[14]
                  The players' lawyer, Michael Townley, said "At the moment, the players have not received a single cent" and alleged that the T&TFF defaulted on its payment to the arbitration body.[15]
                  [edit]England World Cup bid

                  Warner once again caused controversy in an interview with the BBC about England's chances of holding the 2018 FIFA World Cup. He asserted that "England invented the sport but has never made any impact on world football" despite being one of only (then) seven nations to ever lift the world cup, "For Europe, England is an irritant", and that "Nobody in Europe likes England". Furthermore Warner proposed that, if the World Cup were to be held in Europe, it should be held in Italy, Spain, or France (countries that last hosted the competition in 1990, 1982 and 1998 respectively). He said that he would "battle to bring...the tournament to his region"[16] where the US last hosted the finals in 1994. Mexico hosted in 1970 and 1986.[17][18]
                  However, on February 14, 2008, Warner retracted this stance. England's Football Association agreed to visit Trinidad and Tobago to play a friendly against the Trinidad and Tobago national football teamon the condition that Warner apologize.[19]
                  Warner argued that, "The time has come. The fact is they invented this sport [...] They last held the World Cup 42 years ago. That is almost two to three generations. There are guys in England who have never seen a World Cup on English soil." Warner maintained that the choice of England would not be popular among mainland Europe though.[20]
                  During the bidding process to host the 2018 and 2022 FIFA World Cup's Warner continually supported the English bid, promising to vote in England's favour at the draw in December 2010. Warner approached the England bid team through David Beckham, offering to hold off on bringing out the vote for Russia in exchange for promises in relation to CONCACAF.[21][not in citation given] Russia won the vote to hold the FIFA World Cup in 2018, with Warner widely reported to have voted for the Russian bid.[22]
                  [edit]Dwight Yorke

                  In September 2008, after Sunderland player Dwight Yorke had withdrawn from the Trinidad and Tobago national football team, Warner attacked the club and the manager, Roy Keane. In a letter leaked to the press, Warner accused Keane of disrespecting "small countries" and having a "mean streak".[23][24] Keane responded by repugning the allegation, accusing Warner of being a "clown" and a "disgrace", and insisted that Yorke was retired from international football.[25]
                  [edit]Corruption Charges

                  [edit]Black market ticket sales

                  Via a private family company, Warner owned shares in Simpaul, a travel and holiday company. In late 2002, various global media publications alleged that Warner had made a profit of $350,000 selling2002 FIFA World Cup tickets.[26]
                  In a series of exposes, during Christmas 2005 the Trinidad and Tobago Express exposed that Simpaul was offering $30,000 packages to the 2006 FIFA World Cup in Germany, which effectively marked-up match tickets at a high rate.[27] In response to the expose, Simpaul removed the cost of the tickets from their packages, by reducing the cost of the packages by $3,000. They then referred clients to the Trinidad and Tobago Football Association, who at that time had an exclusive distribution deal for local and World Cup tickets with Simpaul.
                  In response, FIFA started an investigation, and asked their auditors Ernst & Young, to investigate. In a report submitted to FIFA in March 2006, E&Y estimated that Warner's family had made a profit of at least $1 million from reselling 2006 World Cup tickets, that Warner had directly ordered or sold on behalf of the T&TFA.[28][29] In consequence of being found guilty of breaking FIFA's Article 5, minutes of FIFA’s executive committee indicate that a fine of almost $1 million, equal to the expected profiteering, was imposed on the family. Warner also agreed to severe all family links with Simpaul immediately.[30][31]
                  However, Warner's son Daryan remained a director of Simpaul throughout World Cup 2006, while his personal assistant remained the company secretary of Simpaul.[26] Despite numerous reminders from FIFA, only $250,000 has been paid.[32] The BBC's Panorama repeated the allegations in a November 2010 programme during the week Warner and his fellow FIFA ExCo members voted to decide the hosts for the 2018 and 2022 World Cups.
                  [edit]Request for personal payments

                  Scottish Football Association President John McBeth said Warner asked that monies owed to the TTFF be sent to Warner's personal account. According to McBeth, after Trinidad and Tobago visited Scotland for a friendly match at Easter Road, Edinburgh on May 30, 2004, Warner asked that the cheque for the game be made out to him. McBeth said Warner also approached other members of the Scottish FA in an attempt to collect money due to the TTFF.[33] [34]
                  [edit]Political career

                  In October 2007 Warner was appointed United National Congress Alliance chairman and co-leader, to lead the party into Trinidad and Tobago's 2007 General Election.[35] They won 15 of 41 seats and Warner was elected as the Member of Parliament for Chaguanas West. Patrick Manning's PNM government, which had comfortably won the 2007 election, called an election less than three years into its mandate. Warner's UNC party formed a coalition with four other parties and won the 24 May 2010 elections by a landslide margin of 29 of 41 seats in parliament. Warner was re-elected in Chaguanas West with the highest national vote total. Warner has described the previous Trinidadian administration as the "most corrupt ever", and has pledged to enforce hanging as a method of execution. Warner has said that it is "It is inconceivable to have 295 on death row awaiting the hangman...when no one is trying to apply the law".[36]
                  After the 2010 election, Warner was appointed the Works and Transports minister in Prime Minister Kamla Persad-Bissessar's government. Opposition leader Dr. Keith Rowley wrote to the Integrity Commission questioning Warner's ability to be a FIFA Vice President, while also the Trinidad and Tobago Works and Transport minister[37]. Government counsel concluded that Warner was not breaking any laws, Attorney General Ramlogan also pointed out that Warner does not receive a salary from FIFA, Trinidad benefits from Warner's appointment and his two positions were unlikely to conflict.

                  THERE IS ONLY ONE ONANDI LOWE!

                  "Good things come out of the garrisons" after his daughter won the 100m Gold For Jamaica.


                  "It therefore is useless and pointless, unless it is for share malice and victimisation to arrest and charge a 92-year-old man for such a simple offence. There is nothing morally wrong with this man smoking a spliff; the only thing wrong is that it is still on the law books," said Chevannes.

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                  • #24
                    premier league and hot buttered scones with clotted cream and jam are my only 2 likes about england as a whole. ok...maybe the cottswalds in summer as well...

                    Infidelity does not consist in believing, or in disbelieving; it consists in professing to believe what he does not believe. Thomas Paine

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                    • #25
                      Ah hear yuh sah, gimmi some fish an chips an mi criss.

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                      • #26
                        Originally posted by myYout View Post
                        Ah hear yuh sah, gimmi some fish an chips an mi criss.
                        ...an one ah dem 2nd generation jamaican-english gyal dem dat talk patois wid a english accent Now dat is criss...betta dan fish an' chips
                        "H.L & Brick .....mi deh pan di wagon (Man City)" - X_____ http://www.reggaeboyzsc.com/forum1/showthread.php?p=378365&highlight=City+Liverpool#p ost378365

                        X DESCRIBES HIMSELF - Stop masquerading as if you have the clubs interest at heart, you are a fraud, always was and always will be in any and every thing that you present...

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                        • #27
                          er...i don't know what yuh talkin' bout .....

                          Infidelity does not consist in believing, or in disbelieving; it consists in professing to believe what he does not believe. Thomas Paine

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