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    Mid table mindset, mid table position
    An improved performance but the same result, another away day defeat for Roy Hodgson's side.
    Written by Alex Malone on November 29th, 2010 View Comments

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    Tottenham 2-1 Liverpool

    So, another away game, another defeat. It’s a familiar story for any supporter of a club managed by Roy Hodgson. As everyone knows, his away record as a top flight manager is nothing less than abysmal. Today we were ‘unlucky’ – just like we were ‘unlucky’ at Old Trafford. But then there’s also the Eastlands, Goodison and Brittania shockers to add to the list of away day defeats, where we were anything but unlucky. We were also outplayed by the mighty Wigan at fortress DW. The solitary away win at Bolton wasn’t exactly convincing either was it?

    At home, it’s a somewhat different, but not unexpected, story. Blackburn and West Ham were played off the park. 10 men almost beat Arsenal, and we even outclassed Chelsea for 45 minutes. However, beaten and outplayed by Blackpool and a lucky win over West Brom were more in keeping with Roy’s Liverpool 2010.

    If you remove the name ‘Liverpool’ from this article, this is exactly the kind of form you would expect from your average mid table team. Erm, like….Fulham, for example. In the 2009/10 season, they had 11 wins at home and 11 defeats away. Roy Hodgson’s Liverpool 2010/11? 5 wins at home, 5 defeats away. Coincidence? I don’t think so.

    Today’s ‘unlucky’ defeat was the first time this team has even looked like competing away from home. Well, for 45 minutes anyway. But like all mid-table clubs with no real belief that they really can compete, they backed off and backed off until the inevitable happened. The same can be said even at Anfield when, 2-0 up against Chelsea, we survived an onslaught and had Pepe to thank for preventing a capitulation.

    There is absolutely nothing defensible about the Hodgson approach whatsoever. This is NOT a mid table squad! Roy, THIS IS NOT A MID-TABLE SQUAD!!! This is a club packed with Internationals, with one of the world’s best strikers, world’s best midfielders and world’s best goalkeepers. It has England’s right back, Portugal’s central midfielder and a plethora of other class players….. and we are level on points with 2 of last year’s promoted teams after almost half a season.

    This has nothing to do with the long gone American idiots anymore. It has nothing to do with last year’s manager anymore. It has everything to do with a manager who does not have BELIEF. The first half display against Chelsea and the demolition of West Ham proves what this team is capable of when they are allowed to go for it. Sadly, under Roy, we will NEVER truly ‘go for it’ away from home. His extensive track record proves it. Even today, where we did ‘go for it’ until we took a deserved lead, the objective from the beginning of the second half was clearly to hang on to it. We didn’t, and it wasn’t a surprise. Spurs are an open book of a team. Vibrant and dangerous in attack and on the wings, somewhat weak in the centre of midfield, and most definitely weak at the back. This was the 14th successive league game where they have failed to keep a clean sheet. Only Man City on the opening day have failed to score against them. In their last 5 league games prior to today they’ve conceded 2 or more goals 4 times.


    So what do we do at 1-0 in the second half? Play EXACTLY how you DON’T play against Spurs and let them come at you. If you do, they WILL score…. and they did – twice. Even with Spurs visibly tiring late on after their European game, what did we do to try to win the game? We took a striker off and put a left back on playing out of position, that’s what. We failed to introduce the 3rd sub who could have instilled some life in to the team and actually tried to attack the tiring Spurs players. Yes folks, Ryan Babel made the 250 mile journey to yet again warm his arse on the bench for the entire 90 minutes. Meanwhile, the mid-table liability at left back did exactly what I knew he would do. He allowed a player to get behind him for the umpteenth time, and the game was lost. Paul Konchesky – a virtual ever present under Roy – gets laced more times than a pair of 1970s AirWair, yet he remains first choice. If one player embodies the mindset and limitations of his manger, it’s Konchesky.

    Today was typical and predictable Liverpool 2010. A talented squad being undermined by an inexplicable lack of belief shown by a manager who will always do enough to secure a mid-table position for his team and has no clue what it takes to take a club any further than that. So were we really ‘unlucky’ today? No, we weren’t. We were unlucky we weren’t 2 goals up for sure. We were unlucky to concede a penalty from the manc-loving cheat Martin Atkinson. We were also unlucky not to get a penalty when Kuyt was bundled over. But in the end, we weren’t unlucky to lose because who dares wins and as the game wore on, it became the familiar story of not wanting to lose taking precedence over wanting to win. Until that changes, we are going nowhere, and I have no faith whatsoever that Hodgson is capable of changing it.


    Player ratings:

    Reina – 6 – didn’t look his usual confident self and was caught flapping a couple of times. No chance with the goals.

    Johnson – 7 – did well shackling Bale for the most part. Decent game where he wasn’t allowed to get forward as often as he likes.

    Konchesky – 3 – absolutely out of his depth at this level. I’ve never seen a Liverpool left back beaten for pace, guile and ability more than this player. A liability in every game as players go past him with ease. Hopelessly exposed for the Spurs winner.

    Skrtel – 6 – an average display from an average central defender. Loads of heart but is he really what we need back there?

    Carragher – 7 – you know what you’re gonna get from Jaime these days. Heart like a lion, multiple aimless punts to no-one in particular, one amazing block and the odd glaring error. This game was no different. We will, however, miss his passion for the next 6 weeks.

    Maxi – 5 – I’m not at all sold on this player. Doesn’t really have one big weapon in his armoury, and his finishing is awful. Could have won us the game today but bottled it.

    Meireles – 8 – had a tremendous impact during the time we were on top. Found lots of space and used the ball well. Almost scored with a corker of a shot. A bright light so far this season. And he IS NOT a right half!!

    Lucas – 7 – typically neat and tidy and was given a lot of space. A player who polarises opinion and my opinion is that he’s not what we need to get back to where we need to be because he simply offers too little as either an attacking or a creative force.

    Kuyt – 5 – there’s more to football than running around aimlessly for 90 minutes. There has to be an end product and you have to pass to a man in the same colour shirt.

    Ngog – 4 – 6 foot 2 and barely wins a header, barely holds the ball up, barely shoots and has little effect on any game. Can someone explain why we have Ngog and Spurs have Crouch to me again please, because I’m still trying to figure that one out.

    Torres – 4 – Fernando, if you can’t be arsed, please leave. A world-class player is one who not only has the skill, but also has the heart, the determination and who cares about the club whose shirt he wears and the supporters who sing his name.

    Subs:

    Aurelio always seems to add a little extra to our options when he’s playing and should be first choice ahead of Konchesky every day of the week.

    The Mad Greek – will be disappointed in his part in the goal. Should have been more decisive on Crouch.
    THERE IS ONLY ONE ONANDI LOWE!

    "Good things come out of the garrisons" after his daughter won the 100m Gold For Jamaica.


    "It therefore is useless and pointless, unless it is for share malice and victimisation to arrest and charge a 92-year-old man for such a simple offence. There is nothing morally wrong with this man smoking a spliff; the only thing wrong is that it is still on the law books," said Chevannes.

  • #2
    Another Roy fallacy & further evidence he doesn’t know his squad
    The next few weeks could be long, but at least Roy's got his excuses in ahead of time - citing another fallacy -a lack of centre halves.
    Written by Matt Ladson on November 29th, 2010 View Comments

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    Following the injury to vice-captain Jamie Carragher in Sunday’s defeat at Tottenham, manager Roy Hodgson told how, in his opinion, “we’re not overly blessed with centre-halves”.

    Such a statement ranks alongside other failures to know his own squad. In the summer we were “overstaffed”, more recently we had a small squad. A few weeks ago we badly needed new players, now he admits he underestimated his squad and doesn’t need to sign anybody. Yet now we are not blessed with centre-halves, apparently. And we don’t have enough strikers.

    Hodgson said “We’ll miss his (Carragher) leadership skills and we’ve got Agger still injured and we’re not overly blessed with centre-halves.”

    Aside from whether the statement is true – it’s not – it again shows huge disrespect to those will now be asked to step in and replace Carragher in his absence. Roy’s continual pessimism and undermining of his own players is not the attitude accustomed to previous occupants of the Liverpool manager’s position.

    As for the actual content of the statement, let’s take a look. We can include Carragher in the list of centre-halves, of whom we are supposedly not blessed, so that’s a Champions League winning defender with 450 Premier League appearances to his name. Next we have Slovakian captain Martin Skrtel. Then there’s one of the most cultured centre halves in the league in Daniel Agger, albeit sidelined now but the statement Roy made was that we aren’t blessed with centre-halves.

    Then there’s the very much in-form Soto Kyrgiakos, whom Roy has praised heavily this season. So four experienced and reliable centre halves so far. Usually four is enough for most top clubs but ill come to that later.

    Then there’s the youngsters for cover; England under 21 Martin Kelly, recently capped by Scotland Danny Wilson, and even the promising Daniel Ayala who is on loan to Hull at the moment. So seven in total.

    So let’s compare that with the other traditional ‘big four’ clubs, using players whose ‘natural’ position is centre back, and who have made appearances for their club this season.

    Liverpool Man United Chelsea Arsenal
    Jamie Carragher Rio Ferdinand John Terry Thomas Vermaelen
    Martin Skrtel Nemanja Vidic Alex Sebastien Squillaci
    Daniel Agger Jonny Evans Branislav Ivanovic Laurent Koscielny
    Soto Kyrgiakos Chris Smalling Jeffrey Bruma Johan Djourou
    Martin Kelly Wes Brown
    Danny Wilson John O'Shea
    The Mancs aside, it’s fair to say Liverpool have the best available number of centre halves comparably to Arsenal and Chelsea – who, of course, have had to resort to playing full backs at centre back recently.

    Hodgson’s excuse mentality and lowering of expectations has gone on long enough. John Henry and NESV must put an end to this before we before a mid-table club due to our manager’s mid-table expectations.
    THERE IS ONLY ONE ONANDI LOWE!

    "Good things come out of the garrisons" after his daughter won the 100m Gold For Jamaica.


    "It therefore is useless and pointless, unless it is for share malice and victimisation to arrest and charge a 92-year-old man for such a simple offence. There is nothing morally wrong with this man smoking a spliff; the only thing wrong is that it is still on the law books," said Chevannes.

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    • #3
      Wait, are you jokers really going to blame Roy for this? Maxi had the perfect chance to make it 2-0, but some how think of himself as Maradona.


      The writer said unuh unlucky? Really? Those NFL blocks Peter Crouch encountered? He should have been awarded a penalty, plus unuh forget the Defoe miss?
      "Jamaica's future reflects its past, having attained only one per cent annual growth over 30 years whilst neighbours have grown at five per cent." (Article)

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      • #4
        Regardless, Liverpool had no right to lose this match given the chances that were presented... by my count we screwed up three excellent chances... add your defoe miss and Crouch business (which i didn't see) we should have won the match.

        I agree with you that the forwards did not take their chances.
        Peter R

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        • #5
          Having said that, I only saw the first half and listened to some of the 2nd half on the radio... tactically we retreated deeper into our half (according to the announcers) and paid the price... we should have kept the team higher up the park ... was that the team or Hodgson's tactics?
          Peter R

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          • #6
            Originally posted by Peter R View Post
            Having said that, I only saw the first half and listened to some of the 2nd half on the radio... tactically we retreated deeper into our half (according to the announcers) and paid the price... we should have kept the team higher up the park ... was that the team or Hodgson's tactics?
            Dude, give Spurs some credit nuh?
            "Jamaica's future reflects its past, having attained only one per cent annual growth over 30 years whilst neighbours have grown at five per cent." (Article)

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            • #7
              Lazie, the point I'm making is based on how i saw us play in the first half, we should have buried Spurs long time... of course credit is due to them for the victory, but the missed opportunities and the detrimental second half stance we took leaves a bitter pill in my mouth... I mean, not even a draw? it a hat mih )
              Peter R

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              • #8
                Originally posted by Peter R View Post
                Regardless, Liverpool had no right to lose this match given the chances that were presented... by my count we screwed up three excellent chances... add your defoe miss and Crouch business (which i didn't see) we should have won the match.

                I agree with you that the forwards did not take their chances.
                But wait so Spurs neva did anything to win the match...all a you LIverfools are some sour people.

                We won because we deserved to win, we were quicker to the ball in your 18 and by the way we had many chences to make it an even bigger scoreline without even counting the penalty.

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                • #9
                  From a neutral like myself, Spurs deserved the win, however, much kudos to Loserfool. They certainly looked much better than previous weeks and seems to be coming into their own. The side needs a overhaul. I just realized that the side is woefully short of recognised strikers. That is all down to XBoxx guy Rafa. What a failure he is.
                  Hey .. look at the bright side .... at least you're not a Liverpool fan! - Lazie 2/24/10 Paul Marin -19 is one thing, 20 is a whole other matter. It gets even worse if they win the UCL. *groan*. 05/18/2011.MU fans naah cough, but all a unuh a vomit?-Lazie 1/11/2015

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by Jangle View Post
                    From a neutral like myself, Spurs deserved the win, however, much kudos to Loserfool. They certainly looked much better than previous weeks and seems to be coming into their own. The side needs a overhaul. I just realized that the side is woefully short of recognised strikers. That is all down to XBoxx guy Rafa. What a failure he is.
                    I think Spurs was just waiting for them to score. I'm not aware of another team winning 3 points after going behind like Spurs .... Spurs has missed 4 penalties todate and still went on to win those games.

                    Team to be taken seriously. I hope they rattle Chelsea next week.
                    "Jamaica's future reflects its past, having attained only one per cent annual growth over 30 years whilst neighbours have grown at five per cent." (Article)

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                    • #11
                      Pool got the easier chances to convert. Rodriquez and Torres got another one in the first half. Pool shoulda come out 2-0 up inna the first half. You can't blame the manager for that. The came ready to play.

                      I was looking for Gareth Bale but is seems like Spur had about 5 Bales. Every body a dribble and beat man and a make long runs. It was a good game and when Defoe get back in form Spurs going to be one dangerous team. Liverpool better go out and buy one or two man who can put the ball in the back of the goal because right now they are lacking of good quality finishers.
                      • Don't let negative things break you, instead let it be your strength, your reason for growth. Life is for living and I won't spend my life feeling cheated and downtrodden.

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