Speaking of Jermaine Hue

[Mosiah]

RE: Speaking of Jermaine Hue

Stonigut (1/14/2007)

Now if Reid was beating Asafa back in the day in class 1 age group then he must be capable of close to 10.5 on a 100 or 4.4 on a 40yd, I don't see many football players especially on the Arsenal side that can run that type of time.

Karl thinks all Arsenal is at least as fast as Reid. Ridiculous to engage in such senseless conversation.

[Shatta]

RE: Speaking of Jermaine Hue

Mosiah can Reid possibly improve with proper coaching? Is it possible that all he needs is proper technique etc?

Just asking

[Mosiah]

RE: Speaking of Jermaine Hue

<DIV>Yes, why not. So, I shouldn't have been so harsh in my assessment of him. It's just that I feel his best game was the very first one he played for the Boyz and it's been downhill since. These days, all he wants to do is give a big kick from the left back position to the right wing. He has the strength to do it on a regular, but there must be more to a left back's role than that! </DIV><DIV></DIV><DIV>So, hopefully, Bora, sorry Velibor, that well-travelled... can make a difference and make something of him. Still though, that position is for Bibi Scarlett to give up.</DIV>

[Karl]

RE: Speaking of Jermaine Hue

Mosiah (1/14/2007)

Stonigut (1/14/2007)

Now if Reid was beating Asafa back in the day in class 1 age group then he must be capable of close to 10.5 on a 100 or 4.4 on a 40yd, I don't see many football players especially on the Arsenal side that can run that type of time.

Karl thinks all Arsenal is at least as fast as Reid. Ridiculous to engage in such senseless conversation.

Forget the 10.5! It is a waste to look at speed over 100yd/100M when we speak of football.

Most top class footballers...anI would bet 99.99% of the TOP OF THE WORLD footballerscan run on or about 4.4 - 4.9 for 40yards. Hell I could do that when I was in school.

Soooo. I am betting most of, not our 100M and or 200M runners at the schoolboy level...but, most of our 400M and 800M and some of our 1500M runners at our current schoolboy level can break 5 seconds for 40 yards.

Mosiah: I would suggest youleave 'speed across ground' out of your football discussions...excepting to say it is importantthat our footballers have goodspeed.

Aside: Boys running 10.5secs for 100 yards would have to be able to cover the first 40 yards faster than 5 seconds....and, we are talking about 100 yards not metres. As we all know 100M is somewhat longer than 100 yards.

[Karl]

RE: Speaking of Jermaine Hue

Stonigut (1/14/2007)Reid and Scarlett are really two of a very few LB's that I have seen in a long time out of Ja that consistently run off the ball and also make our opponents literally look like they are walking. I don't have the stopwatch times, butI know speed when I see it. the difference between Reid and Scarlett is that Reid seem to have KI! yes Killer instinct, Scarlett disappears to me the closer he gets to goal while Reid seems to be always dangerous.

I do not see how anybody can say that Fabgregas is fast, I have not seen any kind of separation in terms of pace from him, he is skilled and has a wonderful touch and vision but I do not see speed. Truthfully I cannot say I have seen him more than 4-5 times.

Now Et'o (sp) I see speed, I have seen that guy mesmerize defenders on the flank, he is incredible.

The one I always remember though is Hall on the right flank tearing up that Argentine defender who had no clue where he was or where Hall was, that is what I love to see, that is pure advantage, that just puts you in a position to obtain greater opportunity and that's what we need.

Now if Reid was beating Asafa back in the day in class 1 age group then he must be capable of close to 10.5 on a 100 or 4.4 on a 40yd, I don't see many football players especially on the Arsenal side that can run that type of time.

Just saw your post Stonigut - ...and, it is good.

Two things - Few persons can sit in the stands and judge'speed'. Sure it is easy to see which of two or more persons covering ground in say, a straight linewhich is covering ground faster...but, looking at 'John' on one ocassion when 'John Tom' is not present and looking at'John Tom' on another ocassion when 'John' is not present and being reasonable closeto judging relativepace of both isa bit difficult.

Fabregas is not as slow as many think. I stand by my assessmentof his speed across groundand that of most of our REGGAE BOYZ.

...and yes, I still think he is the slowest on the GUNNERS present TEAM.

BTW - Some persons here swear Jamal Campbell- Ryce is quick! Go figure?

...and, yes a 4.00sec 40 yard (note I lowered time needed to cover 40yd)runner would be in the range of completing the 100 YARDS in 10.5 second- 10.6 second.

[Mosiah]

RE: Speaking of Jermaine Hue

Karl (1/15/2007)

Mosiah: I would suggest youleave 'speed across ground' out of your football discussions...excepting to say it is importantthat our footballers have goodspeed.

This 'speed across ground', how does this compare to speed across, say, "water"? Or are you just trying to coin another term?

[Tilla]

RE: Speaking of Jermaine Hue

Karl definition is different from everybosy'd else.

Anyway, if you use physics:

<TABLE cellSpacing=0 cellPadding=5 width=630 border=0><TBODY><TR><TD vAlign=top align=left>How fast? How far? How quickly?</TD><TD vAlign=top align=right bgColor=#dbdbdb>Speed News</TD></TR><TR><TD vAlign=top align=left>Measuring and referring to speed is common place - in fact so common that we scarcely give it a second thought. How long will it take to get from one place to another, how fast can we travel on a motorway, how far will a plane get in three hours?

Speed is everywhere - from the speed restriction on the road outside a school or the speed limiter on the school coach, from the world land speed record to the time taken for a snail to cross a path!

Speed is properly defined as the rate of change of position, which means the distance travelled per unit of time. Speed can be calculated using a simple formula:



and given in miles per hour (mph) or kilometres per hour (kph) - or in the standard scientific measurement of metres per second (ms<SUP>-1</SUP>). </TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE>

[Karl]

RE: Speaking of Jermaine Hue

Mosiah (1/14/2007)<DIV>You covered yourself nicely - "potentially he is our best 'full back'. </DIV><DIV></DIV><DIV>Let me be unequivocal - Garfield Reid is not our best fullback nor is he potentially our best. Archive that!</DIV>

No problem with your belief.

Who do you believe is our best full back?

Who do you believe is 'potentially our best full back'?

[Karl]

RE: Speaking of Jermaine Hue

Tilla (1/15/2007)Karl definition is different from everybosy'd else.

Anyway, if you use physics:

<TABLE cellSpacing=0 cellPadding=5 width=630 border=0><TBODY><TR><TD vAlign=top align=left>How fast? How far? How quickly?</TD><TD vAlign=top align=right bgColor=#dbdbdb>Speed News</TD></TR><TR><TD vAlign=top align=left>Measuring and referring to speed is common place - in fact so common that we scarcely give it a second thought. How long will it take to get from one place to another, how fast can we travel on a motorway, how far will a plane get in three hours?

Speed is everywhere - from the speed restriction on the road outside a school or the speed limiter on the school coach, from the world land speed record to the time taken for a snail to cross a path!

Speed is properly defined as the rate of change of position, which means the distance travelled per unit of time. Speed can be calculated using a simple formula:



and given in miles per hour (mph) or kilometres per hour (kph) - or in the standard scientific measurement of metres per second (ms<SUP>-1</SUP>). </TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE>

Sooo where is my being different?

Stonigut may have thrown in a little tweek - not 'going' verbatim - by mentioning change of pace! Think his words were something of the order of, 'I do not see any perceptable difference as he (Fabregas)moves about'? I think?..but, I do notthink that changes anything with 'pace across ground'/time it takes to cover someobserved distance/distance travelled divided by time taken...interpreted in some standard measurement.

Yup! I would really like to see how I am differing from every other person?