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  • #16
    OK, I guess my statement was too general. CFU and CONCACAF are both organizations which officers are elected to office. In this case, the man was well within his right to pose a challange.
    "Only when you drink from the river of silence shall you indeed sing. And when you have reached the mountain top, then you shall begin to climb. And when the earth shall claim your limbs, then shall you truly dance." ~ Kahlil Gibran

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    • #17
      What is the relevance of your question? This is not a question of management, but more a question of Jack running a dictatorship. If this is what you consider management, then I can tell you that you are on the wrong track, whether you work in management or not.

      HL, you fail to see that this is an organization which the officers are elected to office. Why should Jack banish a man because he decides to challange an incumbent? Jack's leadership is saying to the other members, "don't ever challange, or you are out". That cannot be healthy, especially in a situation where people are elected to office.
      "Only when you drink from the river of silence shall you indeed sing. And when you have reached the mountain top, then you shall begin to climb. And when the earth shall claim your limbs, then shall you truly dance." ~ Kahlil Gibran

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      • #18
        TILLA ! Jack didnt stop it , jack said to him deal with the consequences of exercising your democratic right .
        Jack did not stop it because he could not. He should not be able to stop the man from participating in the organization either because of this.
        "Only when you drink from the river of silence shall you indeed sing. And when you have reached the mountain top, then you shall begin to climb. And when the earth shall claim your limbs, then shall you truly dance." ~ Kahlil Gibran

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        • #19
          You actually seem to think dictatorship is good management. I hope you do not subscribe to that style if you manage people. Those are the worse kind of people in management.
          "Only when you drink from the river of silence shall you indeed sing. And when you have reached the mountain top, then you shall begin to climb. And when the earth shall claim your limbs, then shall you truly dance." ~ Kahlil Gibran

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          • #20
            Democratically elected dictator and re elected democratically numerous times.
            Then why should he try to repress the democratic process. That is not healthy at all. . . A sign of a poor manager.
            "Only when you drink from the river of silence shall you indeed sing. And when you have reached the mountain top, then you shall begin to climb. And when the earth shall claim your limbs, then shall you truly dance." ~ Kahlil Gibran

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            • #21
              Jack is, sorry, was a member of the UNC, the official opposition party in T&T until they kicked him out basically because he wanted to challenge for the leadership (along with others)... and so he and his group are trying to set up an alternative within and without the party... I wonder if he sees the irony .
              Peter R

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              • #22
                Will do!! Ah jus' wish that di money would come!!
                "H.L & Brick .....mi deh pan di wagon (Man City)" - X_____ http://www.reggaeboyzsc.com/forum1/showthread.php?p=378365&highlight=City+Liverpool#p ost378365

                X DESCRIBES HIMSELF - Stop masquerading as if you have the clubs interest at heart, you are a fraud, always was and always will be in any and every thing that you present...

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                • #23
                  Originally posted by Time View Post
                  Mr Jack Warner's worrying stance


                  Saturday, June 06, 2009
                  Captain Horace Burrell, the president of the Jamaica Football Federation, is a great servant of football. His contribution has long been recognised and appreciated all across the CONCACAF (Caribbean, North America and Central American) region.
                  As such, it would have come as no surprise that a recent attempt by Mr Peter Jenkins to unseat Captain Burrell as regional representative of the CONCACAF Executive Committee petered out.
                  What has shocked this newspaper is the news that Mr Jack Warner, a vice president of FIFA and head of CONCACAF as well as the Caribbean Football Union (CFU), has ordered that Mr Jenkins and those who gave him support be punished for daring to challenge Captain Burrell.
                  According to Thursday's report, Mr Warner has given instructions that Mr Jenkins be banished "from all commissions" of CONCACAF and the CFU.
                  Said Mr Warner in a letter to Mr Jenkins: "In your case, on the advice of the committee of the CFU, I have instructed the general secretary of both the CFU and the CONCACAF to remove you forthwith."
                  Mr Warner has accused Mr Jenkins, a former president of the St Kitts and Nevis Football Association, of contravening "the political conventions" of the CFU by his decision to contest the post held by Captain Burrell.
                  Exactly what those "political conventions" of the CFU are, we do not know. Though we suspect they are rooted in the belief that CFU members should stick together regardless of the circumstances.
                  What we do know is that - from this distance at least - the entire episode bears no resemblance to well-established democratic practice. On the contrary, it sounds suspiciously like Mr Warner is running a dictatorship.
                  It gets worse. Mr Warner, in his letter to Mr Jenkins, warned that the two countries that initially supported him - Antigua and Barbuda, and Grenada - would be written to and asked to explain their positions, which Mr Warner classifies as attempts to "fracture the unity" of the CFU.
                  "If their explanations are not satisfactory, disciplinary proceedings shall be instituted against both countries," declares Mr Warner.
                  We are appalled. We shudder to think what would happen if an ambitious CFU association president ever challenges Mr Warner for his top post.
                  The situation has left us with more questions than answers.
                  Surely, this is not how business is conducted in FIFA and its other confederations?
                  We trust that a sane voice - perhaps from the upper echelons of world football's governing body - will whisper in Mr Warner's ear.
                  I suppose Jack should have kept his mouth shut...and quietly 'fire'....OK!...organize the removal of Peter Jednkins from all CFU and CONCACAF committees via the democratic process of having his backers vote Jenkins into 'banishment'...OK!...obscurity?

                  Then we would be all happy?!

                  Let us face facts...that is what shall happen to Jenkins..i.e. removal from all CFU and CONCACAF offices and positions of influence. It is fact that to make an impact in CONCACAF the CFU reps have to stick together. It is fact that in the past when our reps were pulling in every which way...being what is here being called democratic, Mexico, in particular 'nyam wi' each and everytime. Not until 'Jack' got us to stick together did CONCACAF even 'si-neez pan wi'.

                  Jack has taken us one step further by getting us to have CONCACAF lobby on our behalf at FIFA. We have now become VIPs...and as a result those of us who could even dream of being at bthe World Cup have been...and those who never in the past benefitted from FIFA programs are now having FIFA programs coming through our ears...and even our refs who were called all manner of names have gotten the opportunity to attend and perform at all top tournaments and disproved the lie 'we did not belong'.

                  'Jenkins would have had to have the CFU body turn against Burrell and put him up as the sole rep for the post. I am sure he had done his lobbying and knew he had not a chance. As my father taught me...and I have taught my kids..."never take any disagreement(s) within the family ouside"..."never make the enemy know of any cracks in our ranks"..."do not give the enemy any opening to rip us apart". Yup! Jenkins must be taught a message...and all members of the CFU and CONCACAF must clearly get that message. No way must there be any possible way for it to be not understood.

                  In this case Jack's position is best for CFU and CONCACAF. It does not for one minute prevent Jack's eventual leaving or removal...but when that happens regardless if Jack's going is via a strong push out the door...the front presented to the public is CFU/CONCACAF reps in 'lock step'. No way should there be an appearance of fracture. No way should there be an opening to be exploited to send CFU back to the backwaters of world football to once again be ignored by our CONCACAF (We were, previous to Jack's coming, treated like s!@@#$%^^^%$t) and FIFA (To FIFA we did not exist!).

                  NB: I a just wondering what democratic benefit Jenkins was hoping to bring to CFU by putting a divided image before CONCACAF and FIFA? What voting block would he use to get us continued CONCACAF and FIFA positive responses to CFU causes?

                  The man is an ass! ..self absorbed and ANTI-CFU and CONCACAF! Why would I want to reward that?
                  Last edited by Karl; June 7, 2009, 12:56 AM.
                  "Never doubt that a small group of thoughtful, committed citizens can change the world. Indeed, it is the only thing that ever has."

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