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    Fergie plots revolution - and Berbatov is being set up as Manchester United's fall-guy


    By Matt Lawton Chief Football Correspondent
    Last updated at 11:20 AM on 29th May 2009
    Manchester United did what most people would do after having their weaknesses so cruelly exposed here on Wednesday night. They got trashed.

    They drank right through the night, some until it was time to head for the airport and
    the plane home, allowing them no sleep and no private moments for painful introspection.

    It was that kind of game. The kind of game that forces a manager to make changes that could all but end careers. The kind of game that starts a revolution — in the head of Sir Alex Ferguson, anyway.

    He probably knew it was coming, probably realised it was the end of the line for Paul
    Scholes and possibly even the remarkable Ryan Giggs, at least at the very highest level.

    End of the line? Giggs and Scholes suffer alongside Rio Ferdinand

    But what will disappoint Ferguson, and perhaps trouble him as he now plans for another season, is the way the players who were brought in to replace them were made to look so average by the brilliance of Barcelona.

    Compared to Andres Iniesta and Xavi, Michael Carrick, Anderson and Ji-Sung Park were every bit the second-class citizens of Rome.

    It was not a disaster. United remain the finest team in England and the second best in Europe. But Barcelona raised the bar at the Olympic Stadium and the challenge now
    facing Ferguson is to regain the upper hand against a team, remember, that they had
    beaten in the semi-finals of the Champions League the previous year.

    Clearly, it is in midfield that much of the rebuilding work has to be done. United won a third consecutive Barclays Premier League title because they have some wonderful
    forwards and a brilliant defence. Brilliant, that is, when Rio Ferdinand is fully fit.

    But they have the third best midfield in England, a fact that became so depressingly apparent when they ran into Pep Guardiola’s side this week.


    Much to think about: Ferguson must overhaul a midfield so ruthlessly exploited by Barcelona's Iniesta and Xavi

    While the result might not have been much different, the midfields of Liverpool and Chelsea would have coped better with the demands imposed on them by something Ferguson has tagged a Catalan carousel.

    Look at Liverpool: Gerrard, Alonso and Mascherano. Or Chelsea: Lampard, Ballack and Essien. Not to mention Mikel. Two midfield units blessed with the power, pace and passing ability to provide more of a challenge to Xavi and Iniesta than that mounted by United.

    It still didn’t stop Chelsea losing their semi-final and it still wasn’t enough to stop United winning the title. But among them are players Ferguson would dearly love to have, players who would complement what he already has and provide him with the necessary strength to win that third European Cup he so craves.

    In fairness to United, they had one or two key absentees. Even if Wednesday night probably called for a Roy Keane or a Bryan Robson, the younger, fresher legs of Darren Fletcher would have been more effective than those of a 35-year-old Ryan Giggs. And if Owen Hargreaves can regain the fitness that makes him such a magnificent athlete, United have a marvellous holding midfielder.

    But the worry for Ferguson is how hard it could prove to acquire new blood. Xavi and Iniesta? Forget it. They will never leave Barcelona. Cesc Fabregas? Over Arsene Wenger’s dead body.






    Going nowhere: Xavi and Iniesta


    Xabi Alonso would be a terrific acquisition and someone Rafa Benitez might just be prepared to let leave but, again, it would probably be to anywhere other than Old
    Trafford. The same goes for Javier Mascherano as well as Chelsea’s resident powerhouses.


    More...


    Someone like Yaya Toure might be available and the physically imposing Barcelona midfielder could be just what Ferguson wants.

    But he needs pure quality as well. Antonio Valencia might be a useful acquisition from Wigan, if still something of a gamble.

    Much depends on what happens to Cristiano Ronaldo. If he stays, players might have to be sold to increase a transfer kitty probably sitting at around £30million and put
    United in a position where they can join the race for Franck Ribery.

    If he goes, Ferguson will have to move heaven and earth to lure Kaka from AC Milan. The Brazilian had no interest in joining Manchester City but United are a rather more
    attractive proposition.

    If Ronaldo does stay, Ferguson still needs to work out how best to deploy him in partnership with Wayne Rooney as well as address the problems associated with Dimitar Berbatov and Carlos Tevez.
    On the evidence of recent weeks, it might still be worth trying to get Tevez at a knockdown price and then sell Berbatov. A courageous call, perhaps, but worth it if the
    right kind of players can then be acquired.


    Likely scapegoat: Berbatov has struggled to justify his £30million price tag, let alone a place in the starting line-up for the latter stages of the Champions League

    Berbatov has not worked, as his absence from the starting line-ups for the Champions League final and semi-final have shown.

    There are some big decisions to make after Wednesday night but nothing that should lead to a sense of panic. Not when Ferguson has been here so many times before.
    Hey .. look at the bright side .... at least you're not a Liverpool fan! - Lazie 2/24/10 Paul Marin -19 is one thing, 20 is a whole other matter. It gets even worse if they win the UCL. *groan*. 05/18/2011.MU fans naah cough, but all a unuh a vomit?-Lazie 1/11/2015

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    EXCLUSIVE: Stoke City target Manchester United legend Paul Scholes in new player-coach role


    By JOHN EDWARDS
    Last updated at 10:27 AM on 29th May 2009
    Paul Scholes must decide if the Champions League Final is to be his last game for Manchester United and accept an offer from ambitious Stoke.

    Stoke, having enjoyed a thrilling opening season in the Barclays Premier League, have Scholes a route into coaching.

    Manager Tony Pulis sees the Manchester United midfielder's vast experience as a key ingredient for extending their stay and is ready to hand him a playing contract with the promise of a coaching role on top.

    Sportsmail understands Stoke are prepared to pay a nominal fee for Scholes' services and are expecting an answer from the 34-year old former England playmaker in the next few days.


    Bowing out: Stoke want the 34-year-old United legend to leave Old Trafford after 15-years to become their new player-coach at the Britannia Stadium


    Though Scholes has always been reluctant to uproot from his Manchester home, Pulis believes the Britannia Ground may be close enough to tempt him into starting afresh after two decades at Old Trafford.


    More...


    Pulis, who enjoys a good relationship with United counterpart Sir Alex Ferguson, made his bold bid after being alerted to an admission from Scholes that he feels he has another year left in him in the Premier League and wants to go into management after that.

    Booked in for a series of coaching courses this summer, Scholes, who went on as a late substitute in Wednesday's Champions' League final defeat by Barcelona, made it clear he had reached a crossroads in his United career by saying: 'Not playing every week is an adjustment you don't like making. You train all week, and you want to play games.

    'I think there comes a time when you have to accept you won't play every week, especially with the quality of midfielders we have.

    Plenty to ponder: A dejected Scholes watches Xavi celebrate Bara's Champions League Final victory as he is left to contemplate his Manchester United future



    'I will have to see how I am next season, but if I feel I can go again, I will. I would have thought next season will be my last one, though. After that, I would not rule out management.

    'Let's see how the coaching goes first, but I would like to be a manager one day. I think I could put up with the demands it brings.'

    A one-club man since making his United debut 15 years ago, Scholes recently admitted he would consider moving on to extend his playing days.

    After defying the odds by keeping Stoke in the Premier League, following their promotion last May, Pulis is putting that to the test by inviting him to add his know-how to their midfield and learn the ropes as a coach.
    Hey .. look at the bright side .... at least you're not a Liverpool fan! - Lazie 2/24/10 Paul Marin -19 is one thing, 20 is a whole other matter. It gets even worse if they win the UCL. *groan*. 05/18/2011.MU fans naah cough, but all a unuh a vomit?-Lazie 1/11/2015

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    • #3
      The player Manu miss the most this season is Owen Heargreaves.

      he could have made a huge difference in the middle of the park.
      • Don't let negative things break you, instead let it be your strength, your reason for growth. Life is for living and I won't spend my life feeling cheated and downtrodden.

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      • #4
        Ronaldo's Real dream shattered as weary Madrid move for Bayern Munich's Ribery


        By Matt Lawton and Ian Ladyman
        Last updated at 9:55 AM on 29th May 2009
        Manchester United’s chances of clinging on to Cristiano Ronaldo received a huge boost last night when it emerged that Real Madrid are close to a £40million deal for France forward Franck Ribery.

        Ronaldo returned to England disillusioned and still determined to quit Old Trafford for Spain in the wake of Manchester United’s crushing Champions League final loss to Barcelona in Rome on Wednesday.

        Having refused to commit his future to United after the game, Ronaldo only underlined what has been known for some time — that he wants to go to Madrid.

        But as Real president-elect Florentino Perez gave a press conference in the Spanish capital last night, Sportsmail learned that Madrid were poised to beat Chelsea in the race to capture Ribery.

        In the shades: Cristiano Ronaldo arrives in Manchester after having been outshone by Barcelona's stars

        Chelsea had hoped to launch new coach Carlo Ancelotti’s Stamford Bridge tenure by signing the Bayern Munich star but it is understood they are on the verge of conceding
        defeat.

        It is unlikely Real will be able to fund Ronaldo’s £75m move as well as that of Ribery,
        another attacking player.


        Run ragged: Ronaldo and United struggled to contain Barcelona in Rome

        Speaking as he came to terms with United’s 2-0 defeat in Rome, Ronaldo said: ‘My future for now is the national team. I don’t want to talk about clubs, I want to rest, to go on holidays, because I’m very tired. I’ve played many games under a lot of pressure. The future… we’ll see.’

        Madrid have agreed the terms of a transfer with Ronaldo’s representatives and told the 24-year-old they would make United an offer they could not resist this summer.

        But it is now understood that Perez, who is likely to be confirmed as the club’s president on Monday, has made Ribery his priority.


        Bernabeu-bound: Ribery will swap Bayern Munich for Real Madrid in a £40million deal

        Having been booed by Barcelona fans as he collected his loser’s medal in the Olympic Stadium, Ronaldo hit back by suggesting the Catalan club did not deserve to be in the final.

        He said: ‘We must give credit to Barcelona but they were lucky to be here because Chelsea deserved to win their semi-final. I must congratulate Barcelona but that’s football: you only talk about those who win.’

        Striker Carlos Tevez, out of contract at Old Trafford at the end of June, did not fly home with the team.





        Ring any bells? Ronaldo takes off his medal, just as Jose Mourinho did after his last game with Porto
        Hey .. look at the bright side .... at least you're not a Liverpool fan! - Lazie 2/24/10 Paul Marin -19 is one thing, 20 is a whole other matter. It gets even worse if they win the UCL. *groan*. 05/18/2011.MU fans naah cough, but all a unuh a vomit?-Lazie 1/11/2015

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        • #5
          Jangle, Ronaldo has ZERO intention of leaving manu-r. He is only keeping the story alive to keep his name in the press, nothing more than that.
          "H.L & Brick .....mi deh pan di wagon (Man City)" - X_____ http://www.reggaeboyzsc.com/forum1/showthread.php?p=378365&highlight=City+Liverpool#p ost378365

          X DESCRIBES HIMSELF - Stop masquerading as if you have the clubs interest at heart, you are a fraud, always was and always will be in any and every thing that you present...

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          • #6
            Originally posted by Jangle View Post
            Ronaldo's Real dream shattered as weary Madrid move for Bayern Munich's Ribery



            In He said: ‘We must give credit to Barcelona but they were lucky to be here because Chelsea deserved to win their semi-final. I must congratulate Barcelona but that’s football: you only talk about those who win.’
            Must have roots in Philistia...ahhh bwooy
            Peter R

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            • #7
              Originally posted by Paul Marin View Post
              Jangle, Ronaldo has ZERO intention of leaving manu-r. He is only keeping the story alive to keep his name in the press, nothing more than that.
              Move to the head of the class.
              "Jamaica's future reflects its past, having attained only one per cent annual growth over 30 years whilst neighbours have grown at five per cent." (Article)

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              • #8
                but that kind of big headedness cannot be a good thing for man u in the short to medium run...

                Infidelity does not consist in believing, or in disbelieving; it consists in professing to believe what he does not believe. Thomas Paine

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by Gamma View Post
                  but that kind of big headedness cannot be a good thing for man u in the short to medium run...
                  He has said it how many times that he is staying ... even in an interview with himself.
                  "Jamaica's future reflects its past, having attained only one per cent annual growth over 30 years whilst neighbours have grown at five per cent." (Article)

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                  • #10
                    but at the same time he has sent conflicting or, at best ambiguous messages, i don't doubt that he will stay....it is the need for media attention that i am talking about...inevitably that does not sit well with SAF.

                    Infidelity does not consist in believing, or in disbelieving; it consists in professing to believe what he does not believe. Thomas Paine

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                    • #11
                      If him get the chance him gone no two way about it.
                      • Don't let negative things break you, instead let it be your strength, your reason for growth. Life is for living and I won't spend my life feeling cheated and downtrodden.

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                      • #12
                        Sass, that's the joke, he has lost his chance to go at the big money that was on the table last year. RM nuh want him no more as they are now pursuing Kaka or Ribery. More to the point though, he is becoming too transparent. As much as I decry the manu-r fans, they are into hard working players that play for the team, not for individual honours. Ronaldo is all about Ronaldo.
                        "H.L & Brick .....mi deh pan di wagon (Man City)" - X_____ http://www.reggaeboyzsc.com/forum1/showthread.php?p=378365&highlight=City+Liverpool#p ost378365

                        X DESCRIBES HIMSELF - Stop masquerading as if you have the clubs interest at heart, you are a fraud, always was and always will be in any and every thing that you present...

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                        • #13
                          I don't think he would have made a difference against Barca but even so, they won three trophies without him, so I don't know what he would have added.
                          "H.L & Brick .....mi deh pan di wagon (Man City)" - X_____ http://www.reggaeboyzsc.com/forum1/showthread.php?p=378365&highlight=City+Liverpool#p ost378365

                          X DESCRIBES HIMSELF - Stop masquerading as if you have the clubs interest at heart, you are a fraud, always was and always will be in any and every thing that you present...

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                          • #14






                            Mr. President, your thoughts

                            The red lights must be flashing at Old Trafford when a player as ordinary as Fletcher is so badly missed


                            Last updated at 8:34 AM on 28th May 2009
                            Darren Fletcher's stock has never been as high as it is today.

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                            Exempt from blame: Gary Neville, Darren Fletcher and Danny Welbeck survey United's Champions League wreckage from afar
                            Suspended for last night's Champions League defeat by Barcelona, the suspended Manchester United player was the one his team missed (as the perennially injured Owen Hargreaves has long been forgotten).

                            More from Hatchet Man...



                            None of his team-mates seemed able to tackle and gone are the days when the club could rely on a Bryan Robson style figure in midfield, a Paul Ince or a Roy Keane.
                            The fact that a player who is as run of the mill as Fletcher is seen as that missing link highlights a problem which United need to address urgently
                            Hey .. look at the bright side .... at least you're not a Liverpool fan! - Lazie 2/24/10 Paul Marin -19 is one thing, 20 is a whole other matter. It gets even worse if they win the UCL. *groan*. 05/18/2011.MU fans naah cough, but all a unuh a vomit?-Lazie 1/11/2015

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                            • #15
                              Invisible Man act is a waste of Wayne


                              Last updated at 10:55 AM on 01st June 2009


                              What has happened to Wayne Rooney? Where is the player that struck fear into opposing players the world over?
                              When he erupted on the scene as part man-child, part boulder, he was a thrilling combination of Maradona, Rocky Marciano and something that had escaped from The Flintstones. No English lad was blessed with the ability to win a game almost single-handedly since Paul Gascoigne in his all-to-brief heyday.
                              Rooney threatened to be even better. He was quite capable of beating three men with the ball at his feet and then turning around and beating them again, only with his fists. There was a raw power and purpose about him. Rooney had the sublime talent and the strength to protect it. Arsene Wenger, no bad judge of a young player, went so far as to say he was the best English player he had ever seen.
                              I mention all this to remind us all what a force of nature he was. I mention this because we haven’t really seen a lot of him for some time. I mention it because the player I saw in Rome, lost and struggling out on the touchline, disheartened and surrendering possession without too much of a struggle, was a shadow of the Rooney I remember.

                              Why isn't he all the rage? Rooney seems to have lost the fear factor
                              Today he will be watching his boyhood club Everton tackle Chelsea in the FA Cup final. Since he left Goodison Park, his career has soared to new heights, but is he ever going to be the truly great performer for which we once hoped? Not if he continues as he is.
                              Last summer I was writing about whether or not Cristiano Ronaldo would be at Manchester United next season. I don’t think any of us can stomach that tedious saga again. The Portuguese player loves being at the centre of his own stage and although he would benefit from a period left there in splendidly narcissistic isolation, we’re not going to be that lucky.
                              But I’m more concerned about Rooney. I wonder what he makes of it all? And whether he would secretly like to see some players head for the exit? There are signs that Sir Alex Ferguson’s desire to assuage Ronaldo’s swollen ego is having a detrimental effect on his other genuine superstar.
                              It’s not about his attitude. You could ask Rooney to play in goal and he would do a job. But in order to accommodate everyone else, Ferguson asks Rooney to be a ‘team player’ where he is clearly unable to utilise his real qualities. The United boss is deploying Ronaldo in a central role more regularly, shoving Rooney out to the side of the stage. The arrival of £30million superflop Dimitar Berbatov, a player so stationary he is often dusted off at half-time, has only exacerbated the situation.

                              More from Des Kelly...



                              Rooney needs to see a lot of the ball to be at his best; he needs to be engaged and involved in danger areas around and behind a front man. He is best scoring goals and swelling with confidence, not waiting in frustration for a long Michael Carrick pass to sail over his head, as it did time and again in Rome.
                              The trouble is, this current United configuration does not allow for that. Rooney — a natural No 10 — has had to get used to playing on the wing. Ronaldo — so effective cutting in from wide positions — is used through the middle. And Berbatov — a natural ornament on this season’s offerings — sits in the middle, getting in the way of both of them.
                              Rooney was phenomenal in 2003 and simply crackled with electricity at the European Championships a year later. There have been wonderful flashes of genius since, against Middlesbrough, Roma and others, but they have been more sporadic. Lately he seems more out of sorts, the trickery and burst of pace are less evident.
                              Of course, his sacrifices have brought another League title and a Carling Cup, so let’s not overplay his hardships. But there will inevitably be some surgery after the Champions League defeat and one midfielder in, one big-name striker out might not be unwelcome news in the Rooney household.
                              That would free him from his onerous duties covering for Patrice Evra at full back and allow this wonderful, precocious talent to show us again just how good he truly is. Right now, he looks in need of a reminder himself.
                              Hey .. look at the bright side .... at least you're not a Liverpool fan! - Lazie 2/24/10 Paul Marin -19 is one thing, 20 is a whole other matter. It gets even worse if they win the UCL. *groan*. 05/18/2011.MU fans naah cough, but all a unuh a vomit?-Lazie 1/11/2015

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