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    “Half the people might like me, the other half might not, but throughout my life I’ve had high expectations for myself so I just try to make the non-believers into believers.” - Dimitar Berbatov, February 2009
    Lazy, unprofessional, infuriating. Not fit to clean Eric Cantona’s boots. Juan Sebastián Verón Mark II. They were some of the more polite barbs aimed in the direction of Dimitar Berbatov on fans’ forums yesterday when Manchester United supporters vented their spleen over the Bulgaria striker’s dire miss in the FA Cup semi-final penalty shoot-out defeat by Everton at Wembley on Sunday.
    The outpourings on a phone-in on MUTV, United’s official television station, were similar in tone. But while it is common for fans to find a scapegoat when things have gone wrong, the misgivings did not centre simply on a lame effort from 12 yards, rather on the wider contribution this season from a player who has polarised opinion since signing for a club-record £30.75 million from Tottenham Hotspur last September.
    Sir Alex Ferguson, the United manager, attempted to defend Berbatov yesterday before his team’s Barclays Premier League match at home to Portsmouth tomorrow and the statistics would suggest that the 28-year-old has enjoyed a profitable first season at Old Trafford.



    Berbatov has been responsible for setting up a sixth of United’s 54 goals in the Barclays Premier League — only Frank Lampard, the Chelsea midfield player, Robin van Persie, the Arsenal forward, and Steed Malbranque, the Sunderland midfield player, have as many assists — while four of his 13 goals in all competitions have been winners.
    Dig a little deeper, though, and the picture becomes less flattering. Only one of his goals has come against a team in the top six — in the 3-0 win at home to Chelsea in January — while he has found the net once in his past nine matches and has not scored in the Champions League since October 21, the one arena in which Ferguson felt the forward would bring an added dimension to United’s attack.
    Delve farther still and an alarming trend begins to develop, one that helps to explain why United have failed to replicate the fast, free-flowing football of last season.
    Partnerships have been a fixture of Ferguson’s teams, but in the 20 games that Berbatov and Wayne Rooney have started together, they have combined to score only once, in the 4-0 demolition of West Bromwich Albion in October. Rooney has not set up one of Berbatov’s goals, while the Bulgarian has been involved in only one of the England forward’s 17, a troubling statistic that becomes all the easier to understand when you consider that of the 551 passes United made against Sunderland in December, only four were between the front two, Berbatov and Rooney. That was by no means an isolated statistic. No wonder this may be the first time in four seasons that United do not finish as the league’s top or joint-top goalscorers.
    The form of Rooney, who should return to the starting line-up against Portsmouth after missing Wembley because of a foot injury, has not been adversely affected, but it is worth asking how much better the England forward might have been this season had he had the benefit of a strike partner with whom he shared a better understanding, not one whose body language inspires little confidence.
    Ferguson, nonetheless, seems willing to persist with Berbatov. “I don’t see any evidence of it tailing off,” he said. “He has had his injury and missed a couple of games, but he came on and actually did quite well.
    “He is disappointed to miss a penalty, of course, and he will get criticised for that. When you pay £30 million for a player, then everyone thinks he should be able to score a penalty, but it is not just about that. Anyone can lose a penalty shoot-out.”
    One of the accusations most often levelled at Berbatov is that he does not appear to care, but Ferguson said: “Dimitar was upset, but they all were. You lose a semi-final and it’s hard, it’s not easy to take.”
    "Jamaica's future reflects its past, having attained only one per cent annual growth over 30 years whilst neighbours have grown at five per cent." (Article)

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    I cannot see why. Yes he missed the penalty ... so did Rio. Whats the fuss? Teams are aware of the United attack and they basically set up not to conceed. I don't see it as a result of the Berbatov factor. Manu was always aware of how Berbatov played, suh why all of a sudden they want him to be like Tevez?
    "Jamaica's future reflects its past, having attained only one per cent annual growth over 30 years whilst neighbours have grown at five per cent." (Article)

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    • #3
      Former United manager: Berbatov an absolute disaster
      Author: Ben Moss

      The notoriously outspoken former Manchester United manager Tommy Docherty has had his say on Dimitar Berbatov, suggesting he has so far been a massive flop at Old Trafford.
      The Bulgarian has failed to live up to the club record fee of £30.75 million United paid to Tottenham last summer, and his penalty miss in Sunday’s FA Cup semi-final against Everton led to Docherty’s scathing criticism.
      Manchester United’s manager between 1972 and 1977 said: “Berbatov has been an absolute disaster. If it was up to me, I’d have dumped him months ago.”
      “The guy could get injured on A Question of Sport. He’s so dour and doesn’t seem interested. He should look at Carlos Tevez and see the way he always grafts to win the ball back.”
      He added: “I’m sure someone will want to buy him in the summer - and United would cut the hand off anybody who offers near £30m.”
      Despite Docherty’s outspoken opinion, Berbatov’s stats in his first season appear to belie some of the criticism. The languid striker has scored 13 goals in 36 games, and also tops his side’s assist count.
      Ferguson has been ferment in his defense of the player, saying: “I don't see any evidence of Dimitar's season tailing off. He has had his injury and missed a couple of games, but he came on and actually did quite well on Sunday. He did really well.”
      “He is disappointed to miss a penalty of course and he will get criticised for that. When you pay £30 million for a player, everyone thinks he should be able to score a penalty, but it's not just about that.”
      Fergusons’s protestations will do little to convince the Old Trafford faithful, who saw the Bulgarian star during his time with Tottenham. The player promised much when he was signed, yet to date, has not delivered on a regular basis.
      Berbatov recently remarked: “Half the people might like me, the other half might not, but throughout my life I’ve had high expectations for myself so I just try to make the non-believers into believers.”
      "Jamaica's future reflects its past, having attained only one per cent annual growth over 30 years whilst neighbours have grown at five per cent." (Article)

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      • #4
        he fit better in the spurs system ...... i think like they did with saha man u bought them because they could and primarliy because they did not particularly want to play against them.

        fergie KNEW the kind of players they were and he knew they would not be a 100% fit for united.

        Infidelity does not consist in believing, or in disbelieving; it consists in professing to believe what he does not believe. Thomas Paine

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        • #5
          Mr. President, I said it to you at the beginning of the season last year. The team did not need a forward, and especially an immobile striker like Berbatov. He just does not fit into the new team that Fergie had created after the departure of Ruud. Fergie spent that record fee and needs to justify it. That is why he persists in playing Berbatov. I am not saying that he is not a good striker, but he just doesn't fit our team. This summer, I strongly believe that he should go, if there is a buyer, along with Ronaldo. We need to get another cover for Ferdinand and Vidic. We struggled when both were out the other day. The team is midfield heavy, and that is because the youths have stepped up their game. We need to give players like Welbeck, Nani, Anderson, Mechada and that other youth striker who we loan out a chance to develop more into the team. We have some very bright prospect on our books and this summer, with some shrewd sales, we can put a dent into our huge debt.
          Hey .. look at the bright side .... at least you're not a Liverpool fan! - Lazie 2/24/10 Paul Marin -19 is one thing, 20 is a whole other matter. It gets even worse if they win the UCL. *groan*. 05/18/2011.MU fans naah cough, but all a unuh a vomit?-Lazie 1/11/2015

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          • #6
            mi not saying mi agree wid yuh but mi naw seh mi disagree either...

            Infidelity does not consist in believing, or in disbelieving; it consists in professing to believe what he does not believe. Thomas Paine

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            • #7
              Originally posted by Gamma View Post
              he fit better in the spurs system ...... i think like they did with saha man u bought them because they could and primarliy because they did not particularly want to play against them.

              fergie KNEW the kind of players they were and he knew they would not be a 100% fit for united.
              Really? Are you aware that Manu was interested in signing Berbatov before he signed for Spurs? The problem is when 4-4-2 is used and both Rooney and Berbatov play up front, they both drop deep for the ball. Watching the game against Porto last week, Berba dropped deep but Ronaldo was always up there to release.
              "Jamaica's future reflects its past, having attained only one per cent annual growth over 30 years whilst neighbours have grown at five per cent." (Article)

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              • #8
                Originally posted by Jangle View Post
                Mr. President, I said it to you at the beginning of the season last year. The team did not need a forward, and especially an immobile striker like Berbatov. He just does not fit into the new team that Fergie had created after the departure of Ruud. Fergie spent that record fee and needs to justify it. That is why he persists in playing Berbatov. I am not saying that he is not a good striker, but he just doesn't fit our team. This summer, I strongly believe that he should go, if there is a buyer, along with Ronaldo. We need to get another cover for Ferdinand and Vidic. We struggled when both were out the other day. The team is midfield heavy, and that is because the youths have stepped up their game. We need to give players like Welbeck, Nani, Anderson, Mechada and that other youth striker who we loan out a chance to develop more into the team. We have some very bright prospect on our books and this summer, with some shrewd sales, we can put a dent into our huge debt.
                I for one disagree what Fergie needs to workout is that both Berba and Rooney cannot drop deep at the same time.
                "Jamaica's future reflects its past, having attained only one per cent annual growth over 30 years whilst neighbours have grown at five per cent." (Article)

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                • #9
                  how does that change the fact that he does not fit into the scheme?

                  Infidelity does not consist in believing, or in disbelieving; it consists in professing to believe what he does not believe. Thomas Paine

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by Gamma View Post
                    how does that change the fact that he does not fit into the scheme?
                    I'm more concerned about your assumption Berba was purchased in order not to face him.
                    "Jamaica's future reflects its past, having attained only one per cent annual growth over 30 years whilst neighbours have grown at five per cent." (Article)

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                    • #11
                      actually it is made worse by the fact that they did purchase him from spurs knowing that he did not fit into their scheme

                      Infidelity does not consist in believing, or in disbelieving; it consists in professing to believe what he does not believe. Thomas Paine

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by Gamma View Post
                        actually it is made worse by the fact that they did purchase him from spurs knowing that he did not fit into their scheme
                        Ummm ... and how you get to the conclusion he was purchased KNOWING he didn't fit? Come now Gamma ... such conjectures I expect from Xuberant.

                        Wait ... whey him deh? Oh yeah ... Liverpool a play Arsenal and im only have mouth after him team win. Guess we'll be hearing from him come 5:00 pm.
                        "Jamaica's future reflects its past, having attained only one per cent annual growth over 30 years whilst neighbours have grown at five per cent." (Article)

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                        • #13
                          don't just take my word for it..


                          Jangle vbmenu_register("postmenu_161239", true);
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                          Mr. President, I said it to you at the beginning of the season last year. The team did not need a forward, and especially an immobile striker like Berbatov. He just does not fit into the new team that Fergie had created after the departure of Ruud. Fergie spent that record fee and needs to justify it. That is why he persists in playing Berbatov. I am not saying that he is not a good striker, but he just doesn't fit our team. This summer, I strongly believe that he should go, if there is a buyer, along with Ronaldo. We need to get another cover for Ferdinand and Vidic. We struggled when both were out the other day. The team is midfield heavy, and that is because the youths have stepped up their game. We need to give players like Welbeck, Nani, Anderson, Mechada and that other youth striker who we loan out a chance to develop more into the team. We have some very bright prospect on our books and this summer, with some shrewd sales, we can put a dent into our huge debt.

                          Infidelity does not consist in believing, or in disbelieving; it consists in professing to believe what he does not believe. Thomas Paine

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by Gamma View Post
                            don't just take my word for it..


                            Jangle vbmenu_register("postmenu_161239", true);
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                            Join Date: Jul 2006
                            Posts: 2,180



                            Mr. President, I said it to you at the beginning of the season last year. The team did not need a forward, and especially an immobile striker like Berbatov. He just does not fit into the new team that Fergie had created after the departure of Ruud. Fergie spent that record fee and needs to justify it. That is why he persists in playing Berbatov. I am not saying that he is not a good striker, but he just doesn't fit our team. This summer, I strongly believe that he should go, if there is a buyer, along with Ronaldo. We need to get another cover for Ferdinand and Vidic. We struggled when both were out the other day. The team is midfield heavy, and that is because the youths have stepped up their game. We need to give players like Welbeck, Nani, Anderson, Mechada and that other youth striker who we loan out a chance to develop more into the team. We have some very bright prospect on our books and this summer, with some shrewd sales, we can put a dent into our huge debt.
                            Suh is it impossible for Jangle to be wrong? If Berbatov wasn't brought in who would play forward when Rooney got injuried?
                            "Jamaica's future reflects its past, having attained only one per cent annual growth over 30 years whilst neighbours have grown at five per cent." (Article)

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by Lazie View Post
                              I'm more concerned about your assumption Berba was purchased in order not to face him.
                              Agree with you here. I'll weigh in on this debate.. I also dont think he was bought for that reason. He is a goalscorer first and foremost and he can shoot very well from just outside and inside the box. Ferguson knew his strong points and his weak points.

                              The one thing I will disagree with is the notion he was bought as cover for Rooney. WR plays as a withdrawn striker and not as an out and out striker like Berbatov. He is way overpaid for the role he plays at Manchester United.

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