Now I can say I have seen it all.

[Warlord]

Once contact is made wit the opposing player in a one on one situation like that it is an automatic red card.

Not true

I suggest you visit the rulebook.

[Assasin]

I bet you 90% of Refs would not give a red card for that.

Are you saying if contact is made it is an automatic red card?

[Warlord]

I bet you 90% of Refs would not give a red card for that.

Are you saying if contact is made it is an automatic red card?

You need to learn how to read man. I said in a situation *like that* more often that not it will be considered red card offence for the GK. Once contact is made whether minimal or not the referee can make that call. The English FA rule book indicates that it is an automatic red in a situation like that. I think its stupid especially if the contact is minimal but what do i know. I dont make the rules they do. Its up the referee to use his discretion.

[Bricktop]

Well judging by his performance against Liverpool he aint much of an asset

[Jangle]

With almost every post you make, you lose (people get the spelling right...not loose) your credibility.

[Bricktop]

Brad should not have gotten that red card. That ref, perhaps...has never played anything other than jax!

The Liverpool player ran into Brad. No penalty! No sending off! The damn rules do say the action that must be punished must be done deliberately by the offender!

No penalty? Are you mad?

[Karl]

Tell, me Karl. How did the attacker fall head over heels?

He ran over Brad! Yuh neva si dat?

...or you are going to tell me Brad moved into him...or ran into him...or puched him down...or stuck out a leg and tripped him...
or whatever...???

Friedel did nothing other than long before Torres arrived 'lined up the ball and took up the correct goalkeeper's positioning'....when the ball and then Torres arrived he turned away so as to protect his face and upper body!

Torres ran into the man!

[Karl]

The experts can correct me here, but the only indirect kick within the 18 yard box I know of, is when a backpass is made to the keeper and he picks up the ball. Anything else is a penalty.

You're wrong!

There are many occasions when an indirect free-kick can be awarded to the attacking team in the penalty-area.

...and to the defending team in the penalty-area.

[Gamma]

yes! next question

[Mosiah]

Who won/played the ball, Karl?

[Mosiah]

woiee!

[Mosiah]

"Trying to avoid"...what does that suggest? Did Torres run into Brad? Who won the stupid ball?

[Mosiah]

The player who wins the ball is the one who should be safe. It happens all the while in football, where people end up blocking (aka FOULING) the other player, because he is beaten to the ball.

It doesn't matter how hard the player tries to avoid contact...FOUL!!!

[Paul Marin]

Karl, it may help if we use a non-football example. Let's say that two cars are approaching an intersection perpendicular to each other. One has a red light and the other a green light. The car with the red light tries to stop before the "point of no return" but enters the intersection, causing the car with the green light to hit him at 90 degrees. Who is at fault?

Using this example, Torres had the "green light" because he was in control of the ball. If it were the other way around, then it would have been Torres fouling Friedel.

Not very hard to understand my brother.

[Mosiah]

Friedel did nothing other than long before Torres arrived 'lined up the ball and took up the correct goalkeeper's positioning'....when the ball and then Torres arrived he turned away so as to protect his face and upper body!

Torres ran into the man!

If he did all that "long before Torres arrived", why didn't Braddy just play the stupid ball?!?!?! HE DID NOT!!!

How dumb is this yank?!!? (Friedel, Karl, not you.) Yuh gwine line up yuhself fram early, and then try and correct that alignment, without playing the ball?!?!?!!?

Is like Brad head a tek him!

We know yours done gone lang time, Karl!