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    Sir Alex Ferguson was like an old streetfighter lying bloodied and beaten in his corner - defiantly insisting his victorious opponent had never laid a glove on him.

    Ferguson was selling the message that Manchester United were the better side against Liverpool at Old Trafford. No-one was buying that when a 4-1 scoreline in favour of the visitors slightly contradicted his argument.

    Liverpool's win was as impressive as it was deserved and the even the lavish victory margin provoked few arguments, despite Ferguson's protestations.

    And while this landmark triumph for Rafael Benitez's side may not have blown the door to the Premier League title wide open, there is little doubt the emphatic manner of the win has pushed it slightly ajar.

    The fall-out from Liverpool's win as far as United are concerned needs to be placed in its proper context. Ferguson was correct when he insisted United would have happily settled for a four-point lead with a game in hand if it was offered to him a few weeks ago.

    And maybe this defeat, if not its scale, has been coming after a spell when United have been digging out victories as opposed to sweeping opponents aside.

    In other words, anyone hoping to detect vital signs of a Manchester United meltdown must not get their hopes up on the basis of a single, albeit surprising and damaging, defeat.

    The smart money remains on a swift United recovery and an eventual title triumph, but this was Liverpool's day and Benitez's traditionally impassive post-match demeanour must have surely disguised the fact that he was dancing inside.

    Benitez was pleased for Liverpool's fans, the club and even his backroom staff. As ever, he kept his own emotions under wraps - refusing even to rise to the understandable bait offered about his public outburst against his vanquished opponent Ferguson in January.

    But Benitez, a renowned plotter and strategist of his team's fortunes, could not have scripted the last five days any better than they have turned out.

    He has watched his side dismantle Real Madrid and Manchester United, two of the game's most decorated clubs, in that time. And if Tuesday's Champions League win was accompanied by understandable claims of Real's incompetence, no-one must take an ounce of credit away from Liverpool on this occasion.

    Liverpool were positive, powerful, committed and dangerous. It was a performance almost without flaw, goalkeeper Pepe Reina's uncharacteristic uncertainty apart.

    They are, however, arguably the most baffling, contrary side in the Premier League - and it is this split personality that will be to blame if they do not win the title.

    Liverpool have now done the double over Manchester United (despite going behind in both games) and Chelsea while earning a draw against Arsenal at The Emirates.

    But home draws against Stoke City, Fulham, West Ham United and Manchester City will be offered up as crucial evidence in the case against them as a title-winning side.

    At Old Trafford, Liverpool showed everything admirable about their nature. They proved they are good enough to win the title - they just have not proved it often enough.

    Liverpool survived the loss of influential midfield man Xabi Alonso, as well as defender Alvaro Arbeloa in the warm-up, although the latter blow offered Sami Hyypia the opportunity to again demonstrate what an outstanding servant he has been for the club.

    If Liverpool wish to present mitigating circumstances for some of their perceived failings this season, then the reduced opportunity to pair Steven Gerrard and Fernando Torres together because of injury will top the list.

    Gerrard's importance to Liverpool has been underscored time and again does not need repeating here - but it was the magic of Torres that turned this game on its head.

    It is a big call to make, but is there a better striker in world football than Torres? Not in my book.

    Nemanja Vidic has been an immovable object this season, and no-one would be foolish enough to deliver too harsh a criticism after a rare bad day - but Torres made it a harrowing afternoon for the normally faultless Serb.

    The devastating effect Torres had on Vidic with his pace and menace was remarkable to witness. When Vidic was sent off for a foul on Gerrard late on it was a merciful release from his torture.

    The pivotal moment came in the 28th minute when the mere presence of Torres induced fatal hesitation in Vidic's mind, ending with him being embarrassed by the Spain striker's burning pace for Liverpool's equaliser.

    On this incident the game turned. Torres, in tandem with Gerrard, spread uncertainly like a disease through United's record-breaking rearguard, with Vidic its main victim.

    It was like watching the armour fall off a previously impregnable warrior. He was spooked by Torres and it wrecked his performance.

    No-one should put Vidic away after this because Torres has the talent to torment the best defenders in the world. Vidic is one of the world's best defenders so this was the proof of the carnage the Torres can inspire.

    So what has this done to the title race? Are Liverpool ready to mount a late surge? Previous form suggests no-one could predict that, but United still hold all the cards.

    Liverpool captain Gerrard and Benitez talked up the possibility of further joy by suggesting they have proved United are beatable. They are not untouchables.

    True enough, but it is an argument with a fatal flaw. Not all of the sides Liverpool are relying on to repeat their feat can call on a Gerrard or a Torres - no minor consideration.

    The elation of Liverpool's supporters and the barely confined joy of their players suggest they live in real hope of catching the champions, and their renewed optimism is fully justified by the resurgence of the past week.

    And the thousands of empty seats around the Old Trafford in the closing seconds will only have added to Liverpool's unbridled pleasure.

    Reality and past records suggest, however, that United's powers of recovery are such that it will take more than this humbling experience against their fiercest rivals to divert them off a course that will take them to the Premier League title.
    Sunday, August 28th, 2011. We will never forget !!

  • #2
    i do not think that is beyon SAF to make a bid for torres.....just to unsettle everyone at anfield

    Infidelity does not consist in believing, or in disbelieving; it consists in professing to believe what he does not believe. Thomas Paine

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    • #3
      When Arsenal defeated the Empire, I said it was a Strategic Inflection Point and the Empire will simply strike back .... they went on to take over the lead in the league leading with 7 points and a game in hand. Yes, the player apparently got overconfident in the past few weeks and now this defeat has brought them back to earth.

      As I said either last Thursday or Friday, Liverpool is in a position of damn if they do, damn if they don't. If they didn't beat the World Champions then their title chase would have been over ... but then again, if they defeated the Champions, the Empire would simply go on another unbeaten run.
      "Jamaica's future reflects its past, having attained only one per cent annual growth over 30 years whilst neighbours have grown at five per cent." (Article)

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      • #4
        so...is winning the next game critical for man u?

        Infidelity does not consist in believing, or in disbelieving; it consists in professing to believe what he does not believe. Thomas Paine

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        • #5
          Originally posted by Gamma View Post
          so...is winning the next game critical for man u?
          I would say so. Winning the next game would certainly mek all the pretenders get quiet again. I notice that even Alan Hansen start writing again. What? He was suffering from writer's block all along?
          "Jamaica's future reflects its past, having attained only one per cent annual growth over 30 years whilst neighbours have grown at five per cent." (Article)

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          • #6
            What this win for Liverpool did is quiet the Empire soldiers for the weekend. I haven't posted much because I am giving them a chance to enjoy their victory. X, Paul and now all of a sudden, Mosiah, unuh continue to have unuh fun because when the Empire finish cleaning up the rest of the trophies this season, is FYAH and BRIMSTONE a go rain down pon all baldheads!!!!!
            Hey .. look at the bright side .... at least you're not a Liverpool fan! - Lazie 2/24/10 Paul Marin -19 is one thing, 20 is a whole other matter. It gets even worse if they win the UCL. *groan*. 05/18/2011.MU fans naah cough, but all a unuh a vomit?-Lazie 1/11/2015

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            • #7
              Originally posted by Jangle View Post
              X, Paul and now all of a sudden, Mosiah, unuh continue to have unuh fun because when the Empire finish cleaning up the rest of the trophies this season, is FYAH and BRIMSTONE a go rain down pon all baldheads!!!!!
              Oh gezu, not this whimpire bizniz again...; unu a go mek mi fall asleep at work.
              "H.L & Brick .....mi deh pan di wagon (Man City)" - X_____ http://www.reggaeboyzsc.com/forum1/showthread.php?p=378365&highlight=City+Liverpool#p ost378365

              X DESCRIBES HIMSELF - Stop masquerading as if you have the clubs interest at heart, you are a fraud, always was and always will be in any and every thing that you present...

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              • #8
                Originally posted by Gamma View Post
                i do not think that is beyon SAF to make a bid for torres.....just to unsettle everyone at anfield
                This is definitely the joke of the century!!! The English press would make mince-meat of him if he did that, especially after all the sh-t he put Heinze through when the player *wanted* to go to Anfield. Back to the drawing board my son.
                "H.L & Brick .....mi deh pan di wagon (Man City)" - X_____ http://www.reggaeboyzsc.com/forum1/showthread.php?p=378365&highlight=City+Liverpool#p ost378365

                X DESCRIBES HIMSELF - Stop masquerading as if you have the clubs interest at heart, you are a fraud, always was and always will be in any and every thing that you present...

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                • #9
                  C'mon paul, that retort too saaf. Me a expect yuh fe come harder at the Empire and her soldiers.
                  Hey .. look at the bright side .... at least you're not a Liverpool fan! - Lazie 2/24/10 Paul Marin -19 is one thing, 20 is a whole other matter. It gets even worse if they win the UCL. *groan*. 05/18/2011.MU fans naah cough, but all a unuh a vomit?-Lazie 1/11/2015

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by Lazie View Post
                    As I said either last Thursday or Friday, Liverpool is in a position of damn if they do, damn if they don't. If they didn't beat [the wicked] then their title chase would have been over ... but then again, if they defeated [evil], then [babylon] would simply go on another unbeaten run.
                    Almost absolutely correct. Liverpool blew the title chase in January. It is too late (barring a miracle) for the "universally-loved-winged-angels-of-anfield-and-purveyors-of-all-things-good" to defeat the "evil-doing-devil-worshiping-scurge-of-the-universe-and-purveyors-of-all-things-wicked-and-disgusting" from Salford.

                    The win on Saturday was more about positioning Liverpool for the Champions League and next year's prem than anything in the league this year. It was also about Rafa getting a new contract to his liking.

                    Personally, I think manure will probably lose one more game against a much lesser opponent like they did at bolton last year, but other than that, maybe another draw against Arsenal and that's it, no mas.
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                    Jesus on the cross: Eloi, Eloi, lama sabacthani!! ("My Lord, my Lord, why have you forsaken me")
                    "H.L & Brick .....mi deh pan di wagon (Man City)" - X_____ http://www.reggaeboyzsc.com/forum1/showthread.php?p=378365&highlight=City+Liverpool#p ost378365

                    X DESCRIBES HIMSELF - Stop masquerading as if you have the clubs interest at heart, you are a fraud, always was and always will be in any and every thing that you present...

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