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  • #16
    A wha do John Barnes? Him a nyam to much English Muffin mon.

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    • #17
      John B, as Shakespeare said, "a rose by any other name would be just as sweet". I hardly think it is about the team's nickname as about you getting them to play good football that they can qualify for the World Cup. Much ado about noting. . .
      "Only when you drink from the river of silence shall you indeed sing. And when you have reached the mountain top, then you shall begin to climb. And when the earth shall claim your limbs, then shall you truly dance." ~ Kahlil Gibran

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      • #18
        John Barnes say even if you brand the words "reggae boy" on a pig, it's still a pig.


        BLACK LIVES MATTER

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        • #19
          Mek him come ya come tell ppl bout stop call dem reggae boyz.

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          • #20
            If he can win matches very good.

            I'd hold on to the name first and see if the new coach can keep football going. I'd wait for a developer of the game and be a consistant winner before any other steps like name changes.

            When I coached many many years ago at MC I remember some silly song about "rice and peas" or something like that or a"city on a hill could not be hide" or something like that. I wasn't sure what it was all about but it sure worked for the players who felt all were supporting them. As an outside from another country being at MC I went along with it because I love my players and those that thought highly of us. For the others that did not well they suffered in their own way. Remember BB.....

            Paul Banta

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            • #21
              One must be a dancer and fit in.. and I'm sure he can find the way to move his feet. Pray for him.

              Paul Banta

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              • #22
                Here we go again pig, seals and what's next.. Let jsut get on with the game and start winning like we should have years ago.

                Paul Banta

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                • #23
                  Yep, how can I forget?


                  BLACK LIVES MATTER

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                  • #24
                    • Don't let negative things break you, instead let it be your strength, your reason for growth. Life is for living and I won't spend my life feeling cheated and downtrodden.

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                    • #25
                      not the name .. the novelty.. like is pantomine.. I had problem with the man dem in green hair one time... I understand his point. However we will always be known as that but he has to get more accountability in the team.

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                      • #26
                        Bellevue!

                        Just goes to show..... "all dem ppl who goh ah England fram Yaad tun Maaad!" ah lie?!

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                        • #27
                          From Mr (one goal against Brazil) Barnes
                          'many African countries, have to lose that feeling of being second-class’


                          “Tell me, do they call the Italian national team ‘The Pasta Boys’?” asks John Barnes, new coach of Jamaica, through a mouthful of honey-glazed chicken.

                          “No,” I reply.

                          “No, they don’t!” he says. “So we’re not going to be The Reggae Boyz any more. Because it makes us a novelty football team. I don’t like novelties.

                          “All the nickname ‘Reggae Boyz’ tells you is: they dance, they have fun, they lose and they go home. I don’t like that. I don’t like that at all,” barks Barnes, making short work of an unsuspecting serviette. “And suppose we don’t even like reggae?”

                          Sorry!! I don't like this at all, We all have embraced this name, it was a name given to us with nuff love and affection from the Zambians on a tour in 1995. Below is an excerpt from an interview with a key person in the Zambian music scene to understand the true love of Reggae in Zambia.

                          Thus before Mr Barnes can come into this thing him cyan just ah come chant down the name Reggae Boyz in the international press without no real understanding of the background and symbolism the name carries.
                          Global Musics in Zambia

                          an account by Webster Malama

                          Excerpt from an interview with Webster Malama (WM), musician and chairman of Zambia Union of Musicians, made by Krister Malm (KM), November 3, 1997.

                          That has been the major area of development so we now have bands who are trying to play typical Zambian music. The closest we've come is the Kalindula, a beat that originates from the Wapola province somewhere in the North. This is what has been adopted and accepted as Zambian music. I this sphere the household names are Amajenge, Julizia (?) and others. Apart from that there are now quite a number of bands who play what we call music that has been influenced by the foreign types of music, particularly the reggae. We have quite a number of bands who play reggae music but using the Zambian lyrics. Even reggae has gone through a lot of transformations. Now you have ragamuffin, ragga and so on. In Zambia we have bands that are strictly reggae bands. We have now artists and bands that are into ragamuffin. But all these people they do that sort of music using Zambian lyrics and talking about topical issues which affect the average Zambians. The names that come into mind are bands like Burning Youth, artists like St. Michael, and Daddy Zeamus, who is really like the godfather of ragamuffin in Zambia.

                          Mr Barnes, if you do go to Jamaica, please focus on football and don't start disrespecting one of the core constituents of our cultural identity in a nonsensical diatribe meant to be a little irrevent and funny at the time but ending up sounding offensive to some, at least me for starters.

                          Take this as a friendly heads up, don't go to Jamaica with that foolishness, it might play well in Liverpool, Manchester and Bristol but it naah go play well ah yard!!
                          Last edited by Stonigut; October 7, 2008, 01:36 AM.

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                          • #28
                            Wicked Jamaican horror flick that!!

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                            • #29
                              Who are the Samba Boys?


                              BLACK LIVES MATTER

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                              • #30
                                Originally posted by Stonigut View Post
                                From Mr (one goal against Brazil) Barnes
                                'many African countries, have to lose that feeling of being second-class’


                                “Tell me, do they call the Italian national team ‘The Pasta Boys’?” asks John Barnes, new coach of Jamaica, through a mouthful of honey-glazed chicken.

                                “No,” I reply.

                                “No, they don’t!” he says. “So we’re not going to be The Reggae Boyz any more. Because it makes us a novelty football team. I don’t like novelties.

                                “All the nickname ‘Reggae Boyz’ tells you is: they dance, they have fun, they lose and they go home. I don’t like that. I don’t like that at all,” barks Barnes, making short work of an unsuspecting serviette. “And suppose we don’t even like reggae?”

                                Sorry!! I don't like this at all, We all have embraced this name, it was a name given to us with nuff love and affection from the Zambians on a tour in 1995. Below is an excerpt from an interview with a key person in the Zambian music scene to understand the true love of Reggae in Zambia.

                                Thus before Mr Barnes can come into this thing him cyan just ah come chant down the name Reggae Boyz in the international press without no real understanding of the background and symbolism the name carries.
                                Global Musics in Zambia

                                an account by Webster Malama

                                Excerpt from an interview with Webster Malama (WM), musician and chairman of Zambia Union of Musicians, made by Krister Malm (KM), November 3, 1997.

                                That has been the major area of development so we now have bands who are trying to play typical Zambian music. The closest we've come is the Kalindula, a beat that originates from the Wapola province somewhere in the North. This is what has been adopted and accepted as Zambian music. I this sphere the household names are Amajenge, Julizia (?) and others. Apart from that there are now quite a number of bands who play what we call music that has been influenced by the foreign types of music, particularly the reggae. We have quite a number of bands who play reggae music but using the Zambian lyrics. Even reggae has gone through a lot of transformations. Now you have ragamuffin, ragga and so on. In Zambia we have bands that are strictly reggae bands. We have now artists and bands that are into ragamuffin. But all these people they do that sort of music using Zambian lyrics and talking about topical issues which affect the average Zambians. The names that come into mind are bands like Burning Youth, artists like St. Michael, and Daddy Zeamus, who is really like the godfather of ragamuffin in Zambia.

                                Mr Barnes, if you do go to Jamaica, please focus on football and don't start disrespecting one of the core constituents of our cultural identity in a nonsensical diatribe meant to be a little irrevent and funny at the time but ending up sounding offensive to some, at least me for starters.

                                Take this as a friendly heads up, don't go to Jamaica with that foolishness, it might play well in Liverpool, Manchester and Bristol but it naah go play well ah yard!!
                                Yes Tilla: I had to quote the entire post!
                                ...and say, Amen, brother! Amen!
                                "Never doubt that a small group of thoughtful, committed citizens can change the world. Indeed, it is the only thing that ever has."

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