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  • #16
    My apologies bredrin, how could I forget the weapon of mass destruction?

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    • #17
      A team that was viewed
      as not being very technical or skillfull (Tuffy barnes was gone) defeated this georges team in the national stadium. The TEAM (with emphasis) was known for its discipline and ability to play basic football.

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      • #18
        Originally posted by Jawge View Post
        A team that was viewed
        as not being very technical or skillfull (Tuffy barnes was gone) defeated this georges team in the national stadium. The TEAM (with emphasis) was known for its discipline and ability to play basic football.
        That was a PAINFUL 2-1 defeat.
        Sunday, August 28th, 2011. We will never forget !!

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        • #19
          Good post!
          Excellent post!

          Aside: There are tons of Johnny Barnes on our shores! (Forget that nonsense about Adus! )
          "Never doubt that a small group of thoughtful, committed citizens can change the world. Indeed, it is the only thing that ever has."

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          • #20
            Originally posted by Bricktop View Post
            Fundamentals. Take the ball down the wing and cross it. Simple football. We however are enamoured with Brasil so everyting we do has to be down the middle of the field where we inevitably lose the ball
            Are you saying that Brazil takes the ball always -
            everything down the middle
            ?

            If so, it falls in line with the nonsense about Brazil cannot defend...and Brazilians only 'bruk'!

            trus mi pan dat!
            "Never doubt that a small group of thoughtful, committed citizens can change the world. Indeed, it is the only thing that ever has."

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            • #21
              I know U-14 and U-16 competitions. Colts?!? Pepsi!?!


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              • #22
                The man say no almshouse , brazil down the middle Brick ? I wonder why they are known for overlapping left/ right backs ?Brazil at its best is balanced football.

                Thats why the world tries to emulate them and the europeans are getting closer , France , Spain ,Dutch ahemm England.

                Sensi its all enviroment , given the chance yaad man will BUSS anywhere!

                I will point to the enigma Lowe , left for the U.K in football terms late 26-27 and moved up from the bottom to the championship in 2 1/2 seasons , yes with all his faults.
                Last edited by Sir X; September 23, 2008, 09:08 AM.
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                • #23
                  Originally posted by Mosiah View Post
                  I know U-14 and U-16 competitions. Colts?!? Pepsi!?!
                  Back in the 80's and 90's the under 14 competition was known as Pepsi Cup, and the Under 16's was known as Colts. Colts, as in the" young stallions" being the young and upcoming "ballers", who are progressing towards the big ballers competition>Manning Cup.
                  Sunday, August 28th, 2011. We will never forget !!

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                  • #24
                    Sensi here my views why Johnny Barnes became a great footballer:

                    Early Influence: He grew up around football and admired the skills of Allan "Skill" Cole. He was also able to see players like Herbert "Dago" Gordon; Peter "Dove" Marston; Dennis "Den-Den" Hutchinson; Lenworth "Teacha" Hyde and Noel "Sweetie" Smith. The sublime skills of LittleJohn at StGC must also have made some impression on the young Johnny.

                    Discipline: He grew up as the son of an army colonel, and saw where life and everything around it was a function of strict discipline.

                    Love Of The Game: All Johnny Barnes ever wanted to do was play football. Even though he had the smarts to gain Common Entrance entry to StGC (at the time on one Kingston's top high schools), he made it clear to his parents that he wanted to be a footballer.

                    Parental Support: His father, himself having the love for football, supported the young Barnes' ambition to excel at the game.

                    Luck: Johnny Barnes was fortunate that his father received an assignment in England in the mid-seventies. And although Johnny was carefully placed in a particular high school, the father took time to find appropriate youth teams so Johhny could hone his skills. There were several rejections by a couple clubs in his early teens, but that was a positive for Johnny as he was able to maintain and work on his natural skills. Most English youth clubs discourage the natural flair but Johnny was at a club where he could display his natural gifts.
                    Last edited by Farmah; September 23, 2008, 10:37 AM.
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                    • #25
                      Originally posted by X View Post
                      Thats why the world tries to emulate them
                      Who a try emulate Brasil? Kiss teet

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                      • #26
                        I know that! But...sigh


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                        • #27
                          Back in di days, Pepsi was played mostly by 1st and 2nd formers. Colts was what the better young players like those in 1st thorugh 3rd (in a few cases a 4th former might be young enough) played. The natural progression for the very good players from 3rd through 6th form was the Manning Cup. But that was in dem-dere-days!
                          "The contribution of forumites and others who visit shouldn’t be discounted, and offending people shouldn’t be the first thing on our minds. Most of us are educated and can do better." Mi bredrin Sass Jan. 29,2011

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                          • #28
                            Originally posted by Farmah View Post
                            Sensi here my views why Johnny Barnes became a great footballer:

                            Early Influence: He grew up around football and admired the skills of Allan "Skill" Cole. He was also able to see players like Herbert "Dago" Gordon; Peter "Dove" Marston; Dennis "Den-Den" Hutchinson; Lenworth "Teacha" Hyde and Noel "Sweetie" Smith. The sublime skills of LittleJohn at StGC must also have made some impression on the young Johnny.

                            Discipline: He grew up as the son of an army colonel, and saw where life and everything around it was a function of strict discipline.

                            Love Of The Game: All Johnny Barnes ever wanted to do was play football. Even though he had the smarts to gain Common Entrance entry to StGC (at the time on one Kingston's top high schools), he made it clear to his parents that he wanted to be a footballer.

                            Parental Support: His father, himself having the love for football, supported the young Barnes' ambition to excel at the game.

                            Luck: Johnny Barnes was fortunate that his father received an assignment in England in the mid-seventies. And although Johnny was carefully placed in a particular high school, the father took time to find appropriate youth teams so Johhny could hone his skills. There were several rejections by a couple clubs in his early teens, but that was a positive for Johnny as he was able to maintain and work on his natural skills. Most English youth clubs discourage the natural flair but Johnny was at a club where he could display his natural gifts.

                            Some corrections:

                            John Barnes was never at school with Littlejohn.
                            Secondly, he was at the BEST high school in Jamaica.
                            Last edited by Twan; September 23, 2008, 11:43 AM.
                            Sunday, August 28th, 2011. We will never forget !!

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                            • #29
                              one correction....

                              john barnes never went to campion!

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                              • #30
                                Originally posted by Farmah View Post
                                Luck: Johnny Barnes was fortunate that his father received an assignment in England in the mid-seventies. And although Johnny was carefully placed in a particular high school, the father took time to find appropriate youth teams so Johhny could hone his skills. There were several rejections by a couple clubs in his early teens, but that was a positive for Johnny as he was able to maintain and work on his natural skills. Most English youth clubs discourage the natural flair but Johnny was at a club where he could display his natural gifts.
                                Just some clarification. JB went to a very traditional high school in England, meaning football was not offered as part of the extra-curricular activities. Rugby was the preferred sport. They did play some likkle pick up football at school and Barnes was able to showcase his skills there. He was head and shoulders above everyone. He had to link up with some clubs in his area in order to play organised football. He quickly demonstrated that he was notches ahead of most players his age.

                                I have no doubt that many Jamaicans would be similarly admired if they were given a similar opportunity, once the discipline was also there.

                                25 Adus?! Who's Adu?


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