Forumites! Please stop dancing around the real issue!

[Gamma]

chris hughton.....

[Dunny]

Dunny, who has lived 17 years in England, says that if you want something badly enuff, you can achieve it in England, regardless of race.

Mi almost dead wid laff! Not even ordinary white English people are that naive.

Thats not being naive, thats being honest.

[Gamma]

~sigh~

[Don1]

Dunny, who has lived 17 years in England, says that if you want something badly enuff, you can achieve it in England, regardless of race.

Mi almost dead wid laff! Not even ordinary white English people are that naive.

Don't know Dunny (does that title mean he's loaded?) and don't wish to be disrespectful...but I always heard that once people stay in England too long.. they get a bit daft.

Did you ever hear that?

[Dunny]

Don't know Dunny (does that title mean he's loaded?) and don't wish to be disrespectful...but I always heard that once people stay in England too long.. they get a bit daft.

Did you ever hear that?

Maybe i'm just a positive person without a chip on my shoulder,being black haven't held me back from achieving what i want to achieve.

[Don1]

Maybe i'm just a positive person without a chip on my shoulder,being black haven't held me back from achieving what i want to achieve.

bravo!!! If only we all had your fortitude and perseverance.

Have you ever tried to be a premier league manager?

[Mosiah]

Sorry, Dunny. Forgive my bluntness.

But I am not convinced that your honest is...well...true. Then again, I have not lived in the UK for 17 years.

[Dunny]

bravo!!! If only we all had your fortitude and perseverance.

Have you ever tried to be a premier league manager?

Rudeboy cream will always rise to the top,back in the sixties and early seventies their wasn't a lot of black players now look at how many black players playing in the top leagues across europe, that tells me if the black coaches keep working hard keep knocking at the door that rahtid a fi broke dung.a dat we a deal with na stop break down barriers.Laurie Cunningham,Cyril Regis,Viv Anderson,Paul Mcgrath,John Barnes,Luther Blissett to name a few who help to break down barriers the future is bright step forward Paul Ince,Lewis Hamilton,Royston Ffrench ...........

[Mosiah]

This is so sad. So you think...y'know what, mek mi low it.

[Assasin]

mi nuh live deh, visit a few time well. It is much much easier for an American black to get in soccer coaching. t nuh matter how long you live there It is not that easy for black to climb to the top leagues.

[Sensi]

Bredrin, yuh need fi stop drink the kool aid wha dem a give yuh. You will achieve if you work hard yes but that does not hide the fact that racism is the reason for the Black exclusion from the football management world. Many black players are now getting a chance to play in the Prem. but although we love that, how does that help the players of the 60's and 70's who never got their chance? How will it help these black coaches today, if 20 or 30 years from now black managers are getting opportunities. My friend you have not walked a yard in these people's shoes, so don't down down play their efforts, and furthermore, just remember that hard work does not erase the presence of discrimination or racism.

[OJ]

ya but saw senta commenators give it to Paul Ince because Arsenal run over them and contrast it to when the former manager.. fact is arsenal give them a ass whipping under Huges .

[Gamma]

well, if you have "achieved what you want to achieve" more power to you. "what you want to achieve" might also be a relevant benchmark but i (and probably we) don't know what it is that you wanted to achieve so i will leave that there.

[Gamma]

suh wait deh....if they were that good...why did they have to "keep knocking on the door"? what door? why wasn't their talent able to immediately open doors, after all the talent was indisputable.....

"whatever my lot thou has taught me to know, it is well, it is well with my soul" a my dedication to yuh dat.

[Mosiah]

It's really funny to hear someone who lives in a monarchy talk about being able to achieve anything he wants to achieve.

Dunny, good thing you had no ambitions to the throne!