What has John Barnes ever achieved as a coach?

[Assasin]

Praise the lord!!!!!!

Finally a real positive post from Zeppo about our football.

Keep it up and you could be ok. Mosiah watch it cause can't bad up Zeppo again

[Assasin]

Praise the lord!!!!!!

Finally a real positive post from Zeppo about our football.

Keep it up and you could be ok. Mosiah watch it cause can't bad up Zeppo again

[DweetSweet]

Only when I see Zeppo post a favorable comment and support of Jamaica's football on the most popular USA-fan forum will I have anything positive to say about Zeppo. Until then he will continue to be a pox on the ReggaeBoyz Forum.

[Warlord]

[quote=Assasin;130455]When Klingsman took over they were a bad team. The were losing games with not so respectable scores. Even the US beat them bad.


Warlord is a Division 3 player a professional? Do you have to be playing for a top tier team to be a pro?[/quote]

Id like to think youre more intelligent than that? Sure a div3 player is a pro but youre telling me a div 3 player is as good as if not better than a top tier player in the big leagues?

Then why isnt a div 3 player playing in the prem, la liga, bundesliga or eredivisie?

[Warlord]

[quote=Assasin;130455]

When Klingsman took over they were a bad team. The were losing games with not so respectable scores. Even the US beat them bad.

They were not a terrible team like you may think. It was actually under Rudi Voeller leadership they had a lil bit of a slide and there were an aging team but klinsmann restored some respectability.

see here....


Entering the 21st century, Germany's standing as one of the best national sides in the world, and as of a team that almost always reaches the later rounds of major tournaments, was starting to be discouraged by disappointing results.
In Euro 2000, the aging team went out in the first round after failing to win any of their three matches, including a 1-0 defeat to rivals England and an embarrassing 3-0 loss to a second-string Portugal side (the Portuguese having already advanced). Rudi Völler replaced Ribbeck as coach, initially on a temporary basis, and later permanently after planned successor Christoph Daum was involved in a drug scandal.
Coming into the 2002 World Cup, expectations of the German team were low, due to poor results in the qualifiers, including a 5-1 home defeat against England. However, they started out strong by thrashing Saudi Arabia 8-0 in their first match. At the knockout stages, they produced three consecutive 1-0 wins, against Paraguay, the United States, and co-hosts South Korea, setting up a final against Brazil, the first World Cup meeting between the two. However, with the pivotal Michael Ballack suspended due to accumulated yellow cards, Germany's chances had declined. In a hard-fought match, Germany lost 2-0. German captain and goalkeeper Oliver Kahn won the Golden Ball, the first time in the World Cup's history a goalkeeper was named best player of the tournament. Simultaneously, he won the Yashin-Award as the best goalkeeper.
Germany failed to build on their success in 2002, and again exited in the first round of Euro 2004 without winning a match. As was the case in 2000, the Germans bowed out after losing to the second-string side of a team that had already advanced, in this case that of the Czech Republic, in a match where Germany dominated but couldn't get the ball into the net, before a break was won by the Czechs which they scored from. Völler resigned afterwards, denouncing the constant media criticism in a famous TV interview, and the national team had to find their third new coach in six years, after having had only six coaches in the previous 75 years. As prospective candidates including Ottmar Hitzfeld and Otto Rehhagel turned down the job, former national team player Jürgen Klinsmann, who had never held any coaching jobs before, was appointed. In similar style to Beckenbauer's former role as team manager without a coaching license, the experienced Joachim Löw from Stuttgart would assist him. Klinsmann's main task was to lead the national team to a good showing at the 2006 World Cup, which Germany were going to host.

[edit] 2006 World Cup

Although the host nation, hopes prior to the start of the tournament proper were not as high for Germany as in previous tournaments, even in Germany itself. Critics had pointed out the apparent lack of quality players in the squad and coach Klinsmann's decision to live in America rather than Germany.
Germany, however, won the opening game of the World Cup against Costa Rica 4-2. They continued to develop both confidence and support across the group stage, conceding no further goals as they beat Poland 1-0 and Ecuador 3-0, with Miroslav Klose scoring twice and Lukas Podolski adding another in the last match. Germany finished on top of the group with three wins.
The team went on to defeat Sweden 2-0 in the round of 16, with Lukas Podolski netting both goals in only 12 minutes, from assists by Miroslav Klose.

Public viewing of the match Germany vs. Argentina at the Donau Arena in Regensburg


Germany faced favourites Argentina in the quarter-finals, a team that Germany had not defeated since the 1990 World Cup. Germany's shutout streak was broken shortly after half time as Argentina scored first to grab a 1-0 lead. However, Michael Ballack's cross, flicked on by Tim Borowski, allowed Klose to head in the equalizer with 10 minutes to spare. During penalties, Jens Lehmann stopped two spot kicks while his teammates made all of the necessary goals to win the decisive shootout 4 - 2. Afterwards, the Argentinians started a brawl, which later, after Italian TV showed video footage of Torsten Frings participating in the brawl, resulted in a ban for him.
These results produced much expectation in Germany, many thinking that a record eighth appearance at the final was possible even though a vital player was missing, and the team was tired after going the full distance against one of the best teams. Taking the semi-final against Italy to extra time again, hopes grew high that yet another penalty shoot-out would take the team to the final in Berlin. Despite Klinsmann's focus on fitness, speed and concentration of German players faded, conceding two goals in the dying ninety seconds of the extra time.
Despite having their dreams of playing in the final dashed, Klinsmann's squad quickly recovered their composure, and journalists noted the team's upbeat mood in the practices after the semi-final. Three starters, including captain Michael Ballack, would not be available for the third place match. They faced the Portuguese team, with goalkeeper Ricardo having only conceded one goal in regular play. Nonetheless, Germany thoroughly routed Portugal 3-1, at one point being up three goals to nil from Bastian Schweinsteiger's two goals and an own goal, also off his shot, by Portugal's Petit.
Germany managed to end the World Cup on a high, not only with a 3-1 win over Portugal in the battle for third place, but also with several awards: Miroslav Klose was awarded the Golden Boot for his tournament-leading five goals, becoming the first player from the united Germany to earn it, and fellow striker Lukas Podolski won the 'Best Young Player' award. Furthermore, four of Germany's players (Jens Lehmann, Philipp Lahm, Michael Ballack and Miroslav Klose) were selected for the 'Mastercard All-Star Team'. In addition, at 14 goals scored, the German side put away more goals than any other team. At the end of the tournament, more than 500,000 people celebrated the team's closing ceremony by giving them a heroes welcome at the Brandenburg Gate in Berlin. Germany had a much better World Cup than many - at home and abroad - ever believed possible. In fact the World Cup might have managed to positively change the perceptions of Germany for many worldwide.[

[Gamma]

~sigh~

[Assasin]

Were they terrible or not? How you know how terrible I am thinking?

They weren't good before Voller took and not during his time.

Unnu need fi face facts.

[Assasin]

How intelligent do you have to be to answer a simple question?

Did you realise some clubs in d1 and championship have better club structure than some premiership sides?

Is it possilbe to be playing in the lower division this week and playing the top division next week and visa versa? If players got promoted like Haselbank, Fowler, and Birmingham side does that make them less of a pro?

[Don1]

Praise the lord!!!!!!

Finally a real positive post from Zeppo about our football.

Keep it up and you could be ok. Mosiah watch it cause can't bad up Zeppo again

Remarkable that one post so easily convinces of this guy's good intentions. Don't hold your breath.

The fellow has probably been forced to temper his errant ways by the knowledge that... otherwise..he will be exposed and battered into a respectful posture.

[Don1]

Only when I see Zeppo post a favorable comment and support of Jamaica's football on the most popular USA-fan forum will I have anything positive to say about Zeppo. Until then he will continue to be a pox on the ReggaeBoyz Forum.

Why should he post anything positive if he doesn't believe it?

The forum is not only for fans... it's open to all types... including malicious fifth columnists.

[Assasin]

you have to understand, the only thing I have waited longer for is for George Bush to get out of office.

[Don1]

you have to understand, the only thing I have waited longer for is for George Bush to get out of office.

I guess it's pretty important to you.. you seem truly happy at this minor development.

[Warlord]

[quote=Assasin;130619]How intelligent do you have to be to answer a simple question?

Did you realise some clubs in d1 and championship have better club structure than some premiership sides?

haha... werent you discussing a div 3 player vs a top tier player? How did this discussion suddenly switch to club structure? You are all over the place man.

Is it possilbe to be playing in the lower division this week and playing the top division next week and visa versa? If players got promoted like Haselbank, Fowler, and Birmingham side does that make them less of a pro?[/

A player doesnt go from playing Div3 or Conference football to the top tier of a league like the Premiership, Bunbdesliga, La Liga. That rarely ever happens. Fowler, Hasselbaink, were already established premiership quality players in their time. There are reasons why there not back in the premiership today but that besides the point.

If you cant point me to a few successful players that made a jump from Div3 or even Div2 football to a top league and were successful.. id appreciate it.

[Warlord]

Were they terrible or not? How you know how terrible I am thinking?

They weren't good before Voller took and not during his time.

Unnu need fi face facts.

When you're German and you have a strong history of German teams in World football.... there is alot of pressure to win. The fans expect Gold everytime. The same goes for brazil, Argentina, Italy. Anything less is seen as a disaster because of high expectation as a world elite. What is being terrible in your opinion?

Has germany missed a World Cup, Euro Cup, Confederation Cup tournament in the last 2 decades?

[Zeppo]

In light of recent events, perhaps it's time to update this thread.

Tranmere sack Barnes and MacAteer