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    1st Half

    Jermaine Hue

    No. of Touches: 28
    Pass Attempts: 23
    Completed Passes: 18 Success Rate: 78.3%
    Attempted Dribbles: 5
    Successful Dribbles: 3 Success Rate: 60%
    Attempted Tackles: 1
    Successful Tackles: 1 Success Rate: 100%

    Richard Edwards

    No. of Touches: 23
    Pass Attempts: 21
    Completed Passes: 17 Success Rate: 81.0%
    Attempted Dribbles: 0
    Successful Dribbles: 0 Success Rate: N/A
    Attempted Tackles: 5
    Successful Tackles: 3 Success Rate: 60%

    Note: Edwards first 11 pass attempts were successful.

    2nd Half

    Jermaine Hue

    No. of Touches: 23
    Pass Attempts: 21
    Completed Passes: 17 Success Rate: 81.0%
    Attempted Dribbles: 3
    Successful Dribbles: 3 Success Rate: 100%
    Attempted Tackles: 1
    Successful Tackles: 0 Success Rate: 0%

    Richard Edwards

    No. of Touches: 14
    Pass Attempts: 13
    Completed Passes: 10 Success Rate: 76.9%
    Attempted Dribbles: 0
    Successful Dribbles: 0 Success Rate: N/A
    Attempted Tackles: 2
    Successful Tackles: 1 Success Rate: 50%

    Note: Edwards substituted in the 65th minute.





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  • #2
    Data from who? Karl?

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    • #3
      Look at the data and see if Karl would be so kind. Tell mi!


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      • #4
        LOL.... We have any data for Fowly Stewart?

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        • #5
          Now that would be interesting! Let's try and retrieve that!


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          • #6
            Mo, thanks for the effort, what Top coaches look at with the

            top football software is the number of forward passes that are successful rather than lateral or backward passes as it determines the penetration into the opponents defensive structure.

            It is easier to make a lateral and backward pass which is less riskier and safer.

            Arsene Wenger studies that forward pass and places more importance on this stat than the other passes.

            Thanks for the work, people dont appreciate such effort but I do.
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            • #7
              I found the article, check it out

              Originally posted by Mexxx View Post
              top football software is the number of forward passes that are successful rather than lateral or backward passes as it determines the penetration into the opponents defensive structure.

              It is easier to make a lateral and backward pass which is less riskier and safer.

              Arsene Wenger studies that forward pass and places more importance on this stat than the other passes.

              Thanks for the work, people dont appreciate such effort but I do.
              His analysis is far more detailed than which player has run the most miles or who has completed 75 per cent of passes, although those numbers form part of the picture. What counts to Wenger is knowing where they passed (was it forward or sideways), how long it took them and - down to a decimal point - at what speed.

              function pictureGalleryPopup(pubUrl,articleId) {var newWin = window.open(pubUrl+'template/2.0-0/element/pictureGalleryPopup.jsp?id='+articleId+'&&offset=0 &&sectionName=SportColumnistMattDickinson','mywind ow','menubar=0,resizable=0,width=615,height=655'); }“If

              I know that the passing ability of a player is averaging 3.2 seconds to receive the ball and pass it, and suddenly he goes up to 4.5, I can say to him, ‘Listen, you keep the ball too much, we need you to pass it quicker.' If he says ‘no', I can say look at the last three games - 2.9 seconds, 3.1, 3.2, 4.5. He'll say, ‘People around me don't move so much!' But you have the statistics there to back you up, too.

              “It works well with your tactical observations, too. You see that a guy never loses the ball, so you look at the number of times he passes the ball forward. You can get to the point where you can say, ‘I prefer the one who loses the ball a bit more but tries to play it forward.' It is a concrete observation.” And there was Martin O'Neill at the weekend telling Wenger, who has an economics degree, that he was not good at statistics.

              Here is the full article..

              From The Times

              March 4, 2008


              Arsene Wenger's appliance of science pays off



              Matt Dickinson, Chief Sports Correspondent


              "Technical superiority can be measured,” Arsène Wenger claims in a fascinating interview. He does not mean by the number of goals that may separate Arsenal from AC Milan in the Champions League this evening.
              The Frenchman is talking about computer data that may, for example, tell him exactly when to drop Alexander Hleb or why Gilberto Silva deserves to start ahead of Abou Diaby in the San Siro. His disclosures amount to a revealing insight into how science underpins the beautiful art of the Wenger regime.

              We can thank Total Youth Football magazine for this glimpse inside Wenger's laboratory. They failed only to persuade the professorial Frenchman to pose in a white coat. We all know that ProZone and Opta bombard Premier League managers with numbers, but Wenger admits being like a drug addict in his yearning for statistics.

              His analysis is far more detailed than which player has run the most miles or who has completed 75 per cent of passes, although those numbers form part of the picture. What counts to Wenger is knowing where they passed (was it forward or sideways), how long it took them and - down to a decimal point - at what speed.

              function pictureGalleryPopup(pubUrl,articleId) {var newWin = window.open(pubUrl+'template/2.0-0/element/pictureGalleryPopup.jsp?id='+articleId+'&&offset=0 &&sectionName=SportColumnistMattDickinson','mywind ow','menubar=0,resizable=0,width=615,height=655'); }“If

              I know that the passing ability of a player is averaging 3.2 seconds to receive the ball and pass it, and suddenly he goes up to 4.5, I can say to him, ‘Listen, you keep the ball too much, we need you to pass it quicker.' If he says ‘no', I can say look at the last three games - 2.9 seconds, 3.1, 3.2, 4.5. He'll say, ‘People around me don't move so much!' But you have the statistics there to back you up, too.

              “It works well with your tactical observations, too. You see that a guy never loses the ball, so you look at the number of times he passes the ball forward. You can get to the point where you can say, ‘I prefer the one who loses the ball a bit more but tries to play it forward.' It is a concrete observation.” And there was Martin O'Neill at the weekend telling Wenger, who has an economics degree, that he was not good at statistics.

              “In the past, it was just about feelings, opinions,” Wenger explains. “So I thought, ‘That's not good enough,' and I wanted to know a little bit more.
              I am always in the situation where I have to judge people, and the more concrete objective numbers you have the better you can achieve that.

              “For me, it's an integral part of the game. And I must say when I come in the next morning after a match I am like a guy who is after his doses! He needs to inject! I have a feeling of a performance and then I want to check if that feeling is right or not. So I get all the numbers I can.”

              None of this number-crunching contradicts the notion of Wenger the aesthete. His brilliance is to turn statistical measurements into some of the most joyous, breathtaking football this country has ever seen.

              It is a brave and singular vision of how the game should be played, even more remarkable given that Wenger spends Arsenal's money as if it is his own. But it cannot gloss over a jarring number - the big fat zero next to Wenger's Champions League triumphs despite one semi-final with AS Monaco and one defeat with Arsenal, in the 2006 final in Paris.

              Against Kaká and company at the San Siro this evening, there will be an expectation that they will fall short yet again. There would be no shame in that.

              But perhaps defeat will raise the question of whether Wenger, in his search for fractional improvements, is neglecting power in his obsession with speed.
              Last edited by Karl; March 14, 2008, 02:19 PM.
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              • #8
                You are welcome, Mexxx. Yes, I know they break down the info in different ways, including distance and direction. But you can appreciate that such detail takes time and patience. But I think some of us can appreciate what I have provided.

                These two players were singled out for different reasons. Hue has been accused of disappearing in the second half or not being effective. Do the numbers prove it? He has also been accused of losing the ball too many times. Do the numbers prove it?

                Edwards had a good game, covering the park with speed and tenacity, as he is the steel in the midfield for HVFC. But his passing, especially his forward passing, has been found wanting. It would be interesting to break down his lateral, forward and backward passes to see how they compare. It is interesting that he does not dribble at all! HL and Bricktop should like him!

                They would both get my Man of the Match award. Erm, that's Hue and Edwards, not HL and Bricktop!


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                • #9
                  Haven't finished reading it but I will. Despite HL's rants, I do appreciate the statistics side of the game, but I also believe it does not tell the entire story.


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                  • #10
                    Good job with the stats.

                    I agree on that Edwards point. I think he is the reason why DC United had problems finding any rhythm. They were trying to concentrate their play through the middle, but Edwards was constantly pressuring Gallardo and company. He reminded me a bit of Makalele. Like him, his long passes were not too great.

                    If Wolf would slighty simplify his game he will also cause United some problems.

                    The Hue/Gallardo battle should be something to behold on Tuesday. Perfect field for two finesse players.

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                    • #11
                      Regarding Hue and Gallardo, why is it that we insist on putting Hue on the wing? Most teams, including those in the CPPL, play with a midfielder behind the strikers. That is Gallardo's role with DC United. I think Hue would be more effective if he plays in the middle and given quite a bit of latitude to roam.

                      And by the way, can you imagine him slipping those balls to a speed king like Shelton for him to run onto? Sigh! We can only imagine. Bricktop say di coach want people who can tackle and play defence and can run and can horse dead and can cow fat.

                      sigh fi real.


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                      • #12
                        Even if they start him on the wing, I hope he roams into the middle because it going to be death when him let go some of those passes. Kavin Bryan better be ready to score.

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                        • #13
                          Mo I notice Jermain started wide left is this customary for him.

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                          • #14
                            Yes, but he would prefer to play in the middle. I believe his best performances, when he makes a difference to his team's attacks, is when he plays in the middle behind the strikers.


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                            • #15
                              any recommended software or are you using excel for this. Is Hview data mining thats good stuff. I would like to see more range out of Jermaine, more penetrative passes in behind defense sometimes.

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