Big up yuhself Scaly ... You rule

[Lazie]

the forum this week. Spurs won the Carling Cup!! Congrats bredrin.

[Karl]

Said it before - That is the TEAM to defeat the big 4...
I hope BoyU, Liverpool and Chelsea gets theirs
...but the Young GUNNERS turn back Spurs!

CONGRATS, Scaly!
Things have did not turned out so bad for your Spurs!

[Karl]

Tottenham 2-1 Chelsea

By Jonathan Stevenson




Woodgate celebrates his winner - his first goal of the season

Tottenham came from a goal down to beat Chelsea at Wembley and win the Carling Cup after extra-time.

Jonathan Woodgate won it when Petr Cech disastrously punched the ball on to his head from Jermaine Jenas's free-kick.

Pascal Chimbonda had hit the bar for Spurs, before Didier Drogba's 20-yard free-kick gave Chelsea the lead with Paul Robinson badly out of position.

Spurs levelled when Wayne Bridge handled in the box and Dimitar Berbatov coolly rolled in the resulting penalty.

Spurs' success - their fourth League Cup win and first since 1999, their last major trophy - means their boss Juande Ramos has still never lost a cup final as a manager after five triumphs in Spain with Sevilla.


It ends Chelsea's quadruple hopes in Avram Grant's first season as Blues boss, though they are still in the hunt for the Premier League, Champions League and FA Cup.

But Spurs set their stall out early on and began in a positive fashion in the first League Cup final at the new Wembley.
With only 30 seconds on the clock Juliano Beletti inexplicably gave the ball away to Robbie Keane, the striker racing through and seeing his 20-yard drive deflected wide by John Terry.

Twice in a minute Spurs could have gone in front, first Chimbonda heading a corner on to the bar and then Berbatov heading Keane's cross wide, before Chelsea came back into it.
After Frank Lampard shot off-target and Drogba curled a 25-yard free-kick high and wide, the Blues made a decisive breakthrough.


Chelsea's Didier Drogba curls home the opening goal at Wembley


Didier Zokora tripped Drogba 20 yards out and the Ivorian dusted himself down to curl the resulting free-kick into the bottom left-hand side of Robinson's goal.

Robinson - only recalled to the Spurs team on Thursday for their Uefa Cup tie after a month on the sidelines - was in completely the wrong position and remained rooted to his spot as the ball flew past him.
Spurs tried an immediate reply, but Keane's shot was straight at Cech and then Berbatov slipped as Keane attempted to send him through on goal.

Chelsea, a side well-drilled in the art of defending a one-goal lead, rarely looked like surrendering their advantage - until, halfway through the second half, calamity struck.

Having struggled to make much headway against the Chelsea defence Spurs were gifted a penalty, Bridge bizarrely knocking the ball away with his left hand as he tussled with Aaron Lennon.

Berbatov, keeping his cool, waited for Cech to go left before he rolled the ball into the other side of the goal.

Suddenly Spurs were in the ascendancy and Zokora raced through, only for his first shot to hit Cech on the head and his second slice wide, before Berbatov stung Cech's palms with a fierce drive.

They only had to wait four minutes of extra-time to take a lead they would not relinquish, Cech punching a Jenas free-kick on to Woodgate's head and the ball trickling into an empty net.

Chelsea had to attack but the outstanding Woodgate and Ledley King stood firm, Blues substitute Salomon Kalou and Joe Cole both seeing shots saved by Robinson, but they were nothing more than half-chances.

Spurs deservedly hung on for a famous win and denied their London rivals back-to-back Carling Cup victories in the process.


Tottenham: Robinson, Hutton, Woodgate, King, Chimbonda (Huddlestone 61), Lennon, Jenas, Zokora, Malbranque (Tainio 75), Berbatov, Keane (Kaboul 102).
Subs Not Used: Cerny, Bent.

Booked: Zokora, Tainio, Lennon, Jenas.

Goals: Berbatov 70 pen, Woodgate 94.

Chelsea: Cech, Belletti, Carvalho, Terry, Bridge, Wright-Phillips (Kalou 72), Essien (Ballack 88), Lampard, Obi (Joe Cole 98), Anelka, Drogba.
Subs Not Used: Cudicini, Alex.

Booked: Obi, Carvalho.

Goals: Drogba 39.

Att: 87,660.

Ref: Mark Halsey (Lancashire).

BBC Sport Player Rater man of the match: Tottenham's Robbie Keane on 7.31 (on 90 minutes).

[Karl]

With the game in extra time, Petr Cech fails to deal with Jermaine Jenas's free-kick and Jonathan Woodgate scores

[Karl]

the forum this week. Spurs won the Carling Cup!! Congrats bredrin.

Juande Ramos's side hold on to win and claim their first piece of silverware since triumphing in the same cup in 1999

[Scaly Spurs]

This is only the begining my friend

The are many more trophies to come.

Dem better start make space in the cabinet or just buy a new one.

Was a very good game to.

However I don't recall seeing a ref give injury time in overtime ? Was new to me yesterday.

[Gamma]

yuh long suffering fi true!!!

congrats to your spurs!

[Hortical]

I agree, this is only the beginning. Ramos only deh pon the job fi a few months and he has won another trophy.

[Karl]

However I don't recall seeing a ref give injury time in overtime ? Was new to me yesterday.

The "injury time" or "time added" used terms are misnomers. There is really no "injury time" or "time added". A match should be 90 minutes of actual playing time.

When the play is stopped as per "rules -Laws of the Game" in theory the ref should stop his watch and then restart same when the game restarts. The end result would be that as per "rules" the full 90 minutes of actual playing time is had.

The introduction of the misnomers occurred as commentators and others used the terms to explain the reasoning on why a clock other than that of the officials entrusted to manage the game would show the game continuing after 90 minutes. It was found the descriptions of "injury time" and or "time added" dove-tailed in/with match commentary.

The true fact is "Laws of the Game" refers to such instances as

"Allowance for Time Lost".

The Law (Law 7) goes on to say:

Allowance is made in either period for all time lost through:
* substitution(s)
*assessment of injury to player
*removal of injuried players from the field of play for treatment
*wasting time
*any other cause

The allowance for time lost is in the discretion of the referee.

In effect FIFA and the IFAB is saying to the referees, kindly ensure 90 minutes of playing time...while using good judgement on making allowance for time lost.

Extra-time required to break a tie in some matches is played under the same Law 7 mandate of ensuring "allowance for time lost". The referee is entrusted to allow full playing of time the governing rules and regulations of the particular competition mandates making allowance for time lost.

[Mosiah]

While we're on rules, what should referees do when a player makes a nasty tackle but misses cleanly?

[Lazie]

While we're on rules, what should referees do when a player makes a nasty tackle but misses cleanly?

Roll over laughing! Then cyaad him.

If there is any advantage ... play the advantage then deliver a yellow card.

[Karl]

While we're on rules, what should referees do when a player makes a nasty tackle but misses cleanly?

As fact - per "Law" - Send the offender off!

As practical matter most often the ref either ignores the offense, gives the player a talking to at some appropriate time or stops play and issues a caution.

If I understand you correctly, in the case you mention, the severity of a player's action is alway dependent on "the opinion of the referee".

The Law refers to

"A direct free kick is awarded to the opposing team if a player commits any of the following six offences in a manner considered by the referee to be careless, reckless or using excessive force:

• kicks or attempts to kick an opponent
• trips or attempts to trip an opponent
• jumps at an opponent
• charges an opponent
• strikes or attempts to strike an opponent
• pushes an opponent

A direct free kick is also awarded to the opposing team if a player
commits any of the following four offences:

• tackles an opponent to gain possession of the ball, making contact with the opponent before touching the ball
• holds an opponent
• spits at an opponent
• handles the ball deliberately (except for the goalkeeper within his own penalty area).

A direct free kick is taken from where the offence occurred.

...another Law refers to offenses for which a player and or substitute player may be sent off...but it is always the referee who determines in his/her opinion if the offense rises to the level requiring him/her effecting a sending off.

As practical matter...observed instances...most often - (There have been cases..a few cases where refs have given the "off you go card") - there is no sending off unless the offending player commits a repeat offense.

[Mosiah]

Well, in yesterday's CPPL match, Boy's Town vs. Seba, there were at least two occasions when players should have been given marching orders for attempted tackles that would make the one on Eduardo look like child's play. Not joking, and I know that tackle on Eduardo was particularly nasty, but when you have defenders jumping in with both legs, you might have a problem on your hands (or feet) pretty soon.

On both occasions the ref allowed the advantage, but he should have returned to the scene of the crime and shown some persons some red cards. I know I would have done so. We cannot wait for a similar event, like Eduardo's injury, before we do something about it!

[Karl]

Well, in yesterday's CPPL match, Boy's Town vs. Seba, there were at least two occasions when players should have been given marching orders for attempted tackles that would make the one on Eduardo look like child's play. Not joking, and I know that tackle on Eduardo was particularly nasty, but when you have defenders jumping in with both legs, you might have a problem on your hands (or feet) pretty soon.

On both occasions the ref allowed the advantage, but he should have returned to the scene of the crime and shown some persons some red cards. I know I would have done so. We cannot wait for a similar event, like Eduardo's injury, before we do something about it!

Just a comment - Well...in my days as ref you usually had those incidents when 'technical skills' were woeful.

...and on watching matches of the EPL it is usually the players who are poor technically that make most of those 'warring attacks'.

...and for Lazie - Exception: Rooney when im ead tek im!