finally...some STRAIGHT talk

[Mexxx]

Moses

Come on, Lazie. I doubt very much that that is Mexxx' thinking.

Thats why I didnt answer Mo.

[Lazie]

Thats why I didnt answer Mo.

If yuh say suh! Isn't it the same way things are playing out for Arsenal? Henry vs Emanu? Bob and weeve Mexx.

[Mosiah]

Lazie...Lazie...Lazie.

Btw, if yuh talking about bob and weave, that title goes to one HLEB. I agree with Mexxx, he's the most skilful balla in English football. He is exactly what we think Fuller is, but ain't!

[Gamma]

ok..because if you mix it up then you will catch the opponent off...but if is pure long ball that becomes predictable and easier to defend.

[Lazie]

Lazie...Lazie...Lazie.

Btw, if yuh talking about bob and weave, that title goes to one HLEB. I agree with Mexxx, he's the most skilful balla in English football. He is exactly what we think Fuller is, but ain't!

HLEB? Let me think on that! ummmm ... more skillful than the one dimensional Ronaldo? More skillful than the most under rated football in the EPL .. a certain Mikel Arteta? Sorry, I don't think so.

[Lazie]

ok..because if you mix it up then you will catch the opponent off....

Welcome to the real world Gamma. The fact is long ball is long ball and it can be as effective.

[Yuttie]

all mi could think bout is Lazie and HL's love for robotic players when mi read this line....

t is as simple as that. But for far, far too long, when Ricky and I arrived, in the '70s, and the early '80s, it was Charles Hughes...the long ball game. 'He was the one who said Brazil got it wrong. If you had someone like that in charge it was obvious that England were going to be suffering for a long, long, long time to come.

[Lazie]

all mi could think bout is Lazie and HL's love for robotic players when mi read this line....

t is as simple as that. But for far, far too long, when Ricky and I arrived, in the '70s, and the early '80s, it was Charles Hughes...the long ball game. 'He was the one who said Brazil got it wrong. If you had someone like that in charge it was obvious that England were going to be suffering for a long, long, long time to come.

I was expecting such a ridiculous response. I'm all for the passing game ... but I can understand if a team have to change it up.

[Gamma]

eh?

who said it could not be used as A tool ... it is less efective as THE tool!

[Yuttie]

the fact that you expected such a response tells the tale.... coincidence?

btw...i made the post before reading the post made by others.....

coincidence?

[TheDread]

Lazie...Lazie...Lazie.

Btw, if yuh talking about bob and weave, that title goes to one HLEB. I agree with Mexxx, he's the most skilful balla in English football. He is exactly what we think Fuller is, but ain't!

Bongo cart, I thought Fuller already apologised to you for stealing your girl.

[Karl]

Lazie...Lazie...Lazie.

Btw, if yuh talking about bob and weave, that title goes to one HLEB. I agree with Mexxx, he's the most skilful balla in English football. He is exactly what we think Fuller is, but ain't!

Fabregas!
No one has rthe skills to do what he does! ...and, he could be moved around and do what highly skilled others can do.
Fabregas!

[OJ]

lazie long ball dont be long passes. When we say long ball or Charles huges says long ball they are talking about DIRECT Soccer not passing the ball over distance. Obviously the Long pass is important for Penetration, and getting the ball behind defenders. What we are disputing is a Architect of English football who wrote the FA Mannual and inspired a whole generation of coaches and system who preached that DIRECT PLAY was the way to play. That is what is generalized as LONG BALL and again I hasten to distinguish this from making long passes. LONG BALL or DIRECT play is a system that says get the ball behind denders early. Press and recover and that will limit your risk of giving the ball away in your third or any dangerous third. In doing so however you will structure your talent to be players who possess speed, power and ball recovery skills and can get stuck in and not artist. That is what Adilles is saying is the issue with England.

[OJ]

gamma i think lazie is confusing making long passes with the philosophy of DIRECT Football which is what we call LONG BALL. So for is sake lets say direct football and he may understand it. Remember those guys like teams like MEN_U and Everton. They are not used to the artistry of ball circulation and pass and move.

[Karl]

lazie long ball dont be long passes. When we say long ball or Charles huges says long ball they are talking about DIRECT Soccer not passing the ball over distance. Obviously the Long pass is important for Penetration, and getting the ball behind defenders. What we are disputing is a Architect of English football who wrote the FA Mannual and inspired a whole generation of coaches and system who preached that DIRECT PLAY was the way to play. That is what is generalized as LONG BALL and again I hasten to distinguish this from making long passes. LONG BALL or DIRECT play is a system that says get the ball behind denders early. Press and recover and that will limit your risk of giving the ball away in your third or any dangerous third. In doing so however you will structure your talent to be players who possess speed, power and ball recovery skills and can get stuck in and not artist. That is what Adilles is saying is the issue with England.

Isn't there a difference between playing the long ball as only strategy and using the long ball in a sensible and judicious way? I would think that the long ball - sensible and judicious - will always have its place in TEAMplay even as the long ball as only strategy employed in games has been recognised for what it is a product of a bygone era.