Island: Another academic dismissing the racist theory

[Sir X]

BBBZZZZZZEERRRRKKKKKK

Huh? What? Oh, that was the “no, that’s wrong” buzzer going off….

The frequency of this gene is nowhere high enough in any population to be a “racial” trait, even if such traits actually existed. And it is prevalent mainly among Europeans and Asians. The slow ones have the fast genes.

Back to the paper:

The frequency of the 577X null allele differs between human groups: it is approx 10% in Africans but approaches 50% in Eurasian populations. Two independent studies have reported associations between R577X and elite athlete status; the frequency of the 577XX null genotype is lower in sprinting and power athletes and higher in endurance athletes.

http://scienceblogs.com/gregladen/20...ing-fast-or-f/



DUN TALK

The data suggest that the genes most studied and associated with performance in aerobic endurance running (ACE and ACTN3) do not seem to fully explain the success of these athletes. It seems unlikely that Africa is producing unique genotypes that cannot be found in other parts of the world. So far, the evidence shows that the subjects’ phenotype (molded over time by several factors) seems to have greater influence than their genotype in their long-distance running success.4 While recognizing that this field of study is at an early stage of understanding, the available results show that the identified candidate genes for human performance neither determine nor exclude the possibility of athletic success. Although, the right choice of parents can help in the search for athletic success, this is not the deciding factor between success and failure in sport.4

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4037248/



AS I STATED BACK TO THE CASE STUDY QUESTIONS, CHAMPS FROM the 1900 to 50s, Brazil , Cuba and of course why the non diluted WEST AFRICAN BORN & BRED isnt a factor !

[Islandman]

That's point, it isn't a racial argument as there is no such biological concept. But people are are so racially hypersensitive they can't let it go. You keep talking about "Africans" and "Asians" as if they are a homogenous ethnic group and they are not!! In many cases there are more genetic similarities between persons of Mediterranean descent and West African descent than between Africans from different areas of the continent. That makes perfect sense since human populations migrated out of Africa at different times and from different regions.

This isn't so hard to understand, it just requires emotions to be checked at the door.

[Sir X]

Wow.....I keep talking,i keep hearing west African linked to fast twitch as if it's exclusive to only west african and their descendants in the Americas.

You go so far to accuse the academics of not addressing it.Anyway the science has spoken,i googled up another article from the telegraph that fits your views,it goes something like the the fast twitch plus the bauxite in Jamaica does the trick,m modifying a genetic diet of food from the soil.....lol

I love the part about the euro Asians/ Asians,the slow ones have the gene....lol

[Islandman]

Nobody said it was exclusive to West Africans, stop making things up. If that was the case it would be near impossible to produce an elite sprinter from anywhere else.

What has been said is that there is a statistically significant occurrence of such a muscle type in people of West African region.

There also appears to be a lot of confusion about the ACTN3 gene. Its not the gene itself that is the issue, it is the presence of a certain mutation of the gene, or lack thereof, in a population. There appears to be a correlation between non-mutated ACTN3 gene and the fast twitch muscle type, but that probably is not the full story, there may be other genetic traits which have not yet been fully understood.

What is beyond doubt is that without an above-average amount fast twitch muscle fibre, you are not going to be an elite sprinter wherever you come from or whatever you look like.

[Sir X]

Thank God fi champs and yuh last paragraph is in serious doubt according to the science,the good thing is in your defense further studies are warranted.

Read the articles again good sir.Lata Dun talk.

[Islandman]

Alright Sah. You are persistent if nothing else.

Anyway me a cry cree, you wear me down , you can go war wid PeterR about Liverpool now

[Don1]

What occurs when science is mixed with ignorance?...

The preponderance of athletes of African origin in the finals of the athletic events plays into the hands of racists who argue that genetics is the source of the athletic superiority of black people, just as (they argue) genetics is at the root of white supremacy in intellectual pursuits.

...Confusion

Racists start their "analysis" with the CONCLUSION that Black people are superior athletes...and conversely inferior intellectually. Then they twist anything they can to fit this hypothesis. True science doesn't start with a conclusion...but with an open mind. So we shouldn't be worried or intimidated by the ignorant barking of racists

There is nothing new in this racist reasoning....it has been the basis of white supremacist practices since Europeans emerged from their caves and encountered Black folks..

So this is not science but a philosophical/sociological deformity (i.e. lies) which has morphed into a huge MENTAL DISEASE ...affecting Blacks and Whites both i.e Racism

So because we're concerned that Babylon misuses science to diminish Black people....are we to ignore science and rationalize emotional analysis?? That would be as foolish as the racists

The PERFECT response to this ridiculous situation is for Black folks to MASTER SCIENCE & CRITICAL THOUGHT. That way we can add our own authority to the discussion
Instead most of us run from science as if it were a plague. AVOIDING science is a big reason explaining why this is still such a hot topic in the 21st century....since SCIENCE PHOBIA makes our progress IMPOSSIBLE

For example science indicates that melanin-rich dark skin confers resistance to IR radiation from the sun and possible cancers etc....Is that a "racist" argument because it singles out a helpful genetic mutation in Blacks that makes us "stronger" than some?? Of course it's not...it's science.

Could that science be used by racists to promote their agenda??? Of course it could and HAS BEEN...that's what racists do. So if racists did that should we be fretful about the science?? Of course not....that would make us idiots

That's akin to what we're seeing in this genetics/speed argument

Science isn't always convenient ....and definitely not always correct. But if the science follows the accepted method and is widely peer reviewed....it's a better choice to be guided by than the subjective opinions of illogical observers.

We have to learn to separate the wheat from the chaff....and science from mumbo jumbo... coming from racists and non-racists alike

[Sir X]

Aaaaaaaah sahh mi nuh tell yuh mi study Socrates,all mi duh is ask questions from di Masters,and dem waan mi drink poison .........hehe