Look like smaddy get bite from Beijing 2008

[Islandman]

Glass house? A glass castle dat!

[Sir X]

It is embarrassing,the question is will the JAAA or JOA throw him under the bus.

It could be a Sahko case ,I don't have the full hundred but if the substance was added to the list after 2009,then it should not be on the list to enforce the punishment based on the statue at the time! Granted he is guility of the substance being present in his blood.

[Sir X]

Question we are talking 2008 and not 2012?

[Rudi]

What does Holness' house have to do with this?!?

LOL. Careful Anju sic Gordon Robinson on you. Probably wouldn't be just the toe this time.

[Willi]

2008

[Willi]

Witchhunt.

Carl Lewis get ketch with Gensing and cough medicine that was not yet banned at the time but subsequently. Dem dont touch his medals and him claiming moral high ground.

Dem nuh like wi and wi nuh like dem...

[Sir X]

Well it's an easy case to beat based on precedent,Lewis,Sahko.He needs to sue WADA for defamation and malice,cost of legal fees.

The question to me is are the JAAA and JOA going to step up? I know Franno will !

[Time]

Nesta Carter...apparently...

Gleaner IDs the person as Nesta Carter --- http://jamaica-gleaner.com/latest/ht...ance?id=610260

[Jangle]

OK, so what if the substance was NOT on the banned list then? What then is the problem? If an athlete took something that was not illegal at the time, why is he being punished now? If an athlete is smart enough to create a concoction to assist him that is not on a banned list, why punish him down the road? I just don't get it.

Meldonium, for example, was not on the banned list at one point but subsequently became illegal. The authorities gave a cut-off date and made it clear that whoever was found with the drug in their system AFTER that date would be implicated. If the drug the Jamaican was caught with went on the banned list after the sample was taken, why should he be punished now? And how can we vouch for the credibility of a sample that was somewhere for eight long years? I'm lost.

- Orville Higgins is a sportscaster and talk-show host at KLAS ESP

http://jamaicagleaner.com/article/co...o-drug-testing

[Time]

OK, so what if the substance was NOT on the banned list then? What then is the problem? If an athlete took something that was not illegal at the time, why is he being punished now? If an athlete is smart enough to create a concoction to assist him that is not on a banned list, why punish him down the road? I just don't get it.

Meldonium, for example, was not on the banned list at one point but subsequently became illegal. The authorities gave a cut-off date and made it clear that whoever was found with the drug in their system AFTER that date would be implicated. If the drug the Jamaican was caught with went on the banned list after the sample was taken, why should he be punished now? And how can we vouch for the credibility of a sample that was somewhere for eight long years? I'm lost.

- Orville Higgins is a sportscaster and talk-show host at KLAS ESP

http://jamaicagleaner.com/article/co...o-drug-testing

Look at the 2008 list, section S6 Stimulant, the opening and closing sentences bans all stimulants and those not listed need a good excuse why they are detected....
http://www.realchampion.jp/assets/up...tedList_En.pdf

[Peter R]

So, the closing sentence is where Carter will have to rely on to acquit himself.

I've copied both sentences here, cah yuh kno' seh some a wi lazy...

PROHIBITED SUBSTANCES
S6. STIMULANTS
All stimulants (including both their (D- & L-) optical isomers where relevant) are prohibited, except imidazole derivatives for topical use and those stimulants
included in the 2008 Monitoring Program*.

Stimulants include: etc. etc.

A stimulant not expressly mentioned as an example under this section should be considered as a Specified Substance only if the Athlete can establish that the
substance is particularly susceptible to unintentional anti-doping rule violations
because of its general availability in medicinal products or is less likely to be
successfully abused as a doping agent.

[Sir X]

I Found this :

Methylhexaneamine: why WADA needs to clarify its Prohibited List
Jamaican 400-metre runner Dominique Blake was recently banned for six years. The Jamaica Anti-Doping Disciplinary Panel handed down the penalty after Blake tested positive for the banned stimulant methylhexaneamine at last year's Olympic trials. It was her second offence.

Methylhexaneamine is classified as a stimulant under Section S6 of the World Anti-Doping Agency's (WADA) Prohibited List of banned substances. The likely source of the substance in Dominique's system is a supplement she was taking called Nuerocore. An examination of the Nuerocore label showed one of the ingredients as 'geranium extract (as Geranium robertianum, aerial parts)'. Methylhexaneamine is a component of the geranium extract.

http://e-comlaw.com/sportslawblog/te...ink.asp?id=519

[Time]

I Found this :

Methylhexaneamine: why WADA needs to clarify its Prohibited List
Jamaican 400-metre runner Dominique Blake was recently banned for six years. The Jamaica Anti-Doping Disciplinary Panel handed down the penalty after Blake tested positive for the banned stimulant methylhexaneamine at last year's Olympic trials. It was her second offence.

Methylhexaneamine is classified as a stimulant under Section S6 of the World Anti-Doping Agency's (WADA) Prohibited List of banned substances. The likely source of the substance in Dominique's system is a supplement she was taking called Nuerocore. An examination of the Nuerocore label showed one of the ingredients as 'geranium extract (as Geranium robertianum, aerial parts)'. Methylhexaneamine is a component of the geranium extract.

http://e-comlaw.com/sportslawblog/te...ink.asp?id=519

Methylhexanamine is on the 2008 list as Dimethylamylamine which is its official IUPAC name. We don't know what they found but the big questions will still be the same. Why was is not detected in 2008, why it was detected in 2016.

Note that Methylhexanamine is allowed out of competition so another question will be, is the 2016 test is so sensitive that it can detect trace amounts and could those trace amount be ingested from ordinary food sources?

[Islandman]

Why was is not detected in 2008, why it was detected in 2016.

Probably just a better test.

That is the approach that eventually took down Lance Armstrong. He never failed a test during competition, it was when they went back with more advanced analytical methods that they were able to build an evidence-based case against him instead of just having accusations.

[Jangle]

"Jamaican 400-metre runner Dominique Blake was recently banned for six years. The Jamaica Anti-Doping Disciplinary Panel handed down the penalty after Blake tested positive for the banned stimulant methylhexaneamine at last year's Olympic trials. It was her second offence."

This was such a travesty and an injustice done to this young girl.