Michael Johnson sails the Miggle Passage from Africa to Yard

[Don1]

Miggle Passage Studies XV!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a0r-CvT90Co

[Stonigut]

Yeah I saw some of this, the theory is Jamaica was the last stop so we got the best of survivors, funny thing is jamaica was a key supplier for slaves to the Spanish speaking countries so the last stop theory is not such a good theory.

[Don1]

Yeah I saw some of this, the theory is Jamaica was the last stop so we got the best of survivors, funny thing is jamaica was a key supplier for slaves to the Spanish speaking countries so the last stop theory is not such a good theory.

I have no firm position on that "last stop" theory but..that Spanish argument disproves nothing. Plus "best" is relative.

The claim is that JA got the most aggressive slaves i.e. the ones with the most testosterone and ability to survive the miggle passage

These characteristics are GREAT for sprinting & fighting... but clearly not so great for nation-building and selfless cooperation

Obvious issues with your view above would be the fact that Jamaican emigrants and their progeny in Latin America would be a very small percentage of the population of those territories and would also be subject to a totally different cultural environment.... leading naturally to different outcomes versus the 95%+ of Jamaicans at home who were descended from African slaves.

The difference between Jamaicans at home and those acculturated in Latin America is worthy of research imho... as is the "last stop" theory

[Stonigut]

Not disprove but diminish, good point on the concentration theory, but that also does not fully hold water either as there are significant relatively isolated concentrations of west African DNA pool in Columbia, Venezuela, panama, Honduras, dr and Cuba, especially Cuba, dr and Columbia.

We also have to be careful of the Bantu testosterone theory in Jamaica as we have seen in some studies that across the Jamaican male population there is probably close to a third that have origin in euro, Chinese or Indian male lines while on the female line is where we find the overwhelming dominance of the x line at 95 plus percent.

[Don1]

ok boss

[Tilla]

It is a 4 part seris. Here are links to all four.

Part 1
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VcDE9WakiXU

Part 2
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a0r-CvT90Co

Part 3
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5CvK769_5DY

Part 4
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bs8Dyf3h4K4

[Don1]

It is a 4 part seris. Here are links to all four.

Part 1
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VcDE9WakiXU

Part 2
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a0r-CvT90Co

Part 3
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5CvK769_5DY

Part 4
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bs8Dyf3h4K4

Ich weiß. Ich habe gerade gebucht die jamaikanische Geschichte

[Tilla]

Ich weiß. Ich habe gerade gebucht die jamaikanische Geschichte

Use a language I understand nuh man? What, Yuh showing off that you know German or is this the results from Google Translate? Maybe Gamma can continue this discussion for me as he speaks some German.

[Don1]

Use a language I understand nuh man? What, Yuh showing off that you know German or is this the results from Google Translate? Maybe Gamma can continue this discussion for me as he speaks some German.

Yow bredrin...nuh Star Trek times wi inna??

Use up yuh Universal Translator nuh

But ah wha dis Vater??

[Tilla]

I did try using a translator, but the results did not make sense to allow me to continue a sensible discussion. I was then left wondering what was your point in trying to communicate in German.

Anyway, my fault in responding. In the first place, I should not have to rush for a German translator to understand what you are posting when we speak the same language. What sense does that make OneDon?

[Don1]

I did try using a translator, but the results did not make sense to allow me to continue a sensible discussion. I was then left wondering what was your point in trying to communicate in German.

Anyway, my fault in responding. In the first place, I should not have to rush for a German translator to understand what you are posting when we speak the same language. What sense does that make OneDon?

ich weiß nicht... sarry

Mi nuh know

[Mosiah]

Jamaica as we have seen in some studies that across the Jamaican male population there is probably close to a third that have origin in euro, Chinese or Indian male lines...

What nonsense! Please find and post such studies, Stoni! Thanks!

[Don1]

What nonsense! Please find and post such studies, Stoni! Thanks!

If by "origin in euro, Chinese or Indian" Stoni means many Jamaicans have trace or otherwise significantly detectable amounts of DNA from those non-Africa based sub-groups... he may have a very valid point......... Given of course the power relationships in Jamaican colonial and post colonial society which exposed "Black" women to widespread sexual exploitation by some of those sub groups or some socioeconomic incentive to bear children with them

[Mosiah]

Origin?! Even if that's what he meant I would dispute that. Vehemently!