Carifta Medal Tally (After 2 Days)

[Historian]

Source: C.F.P.I. Timing & Data
(http://www.cfpitiming.com/2013_Outdoor_Season/Carifta_Games_2013/Carifta_Games_medal_count_2013.pdf)

42nd CARIFTA BAHAMAS in 2013
T. A. ROBINSON NATIONAL TRACK & FIELDSTADIUM
Nassau, Bahamas

Medal Count (Day I, March 30 and Day 2, March 31)
Combined: Men + Women

Team Gold Silver Bronze Total

Jamaica: 20 19 11 50
Bahamas: 5 8 8 21
Barbados: 4 5 2 11
Trinidad & Tobago: 4 1 5 10
Suriname: 2 1 0 3
Guyana: 2 0 2 4
Guadeloupe: 1 1 0 2
Grenada: 1 0 2 3
Cayman: 1 0 0 1
Anguilla: 1 0 0 1
British Virgin Islands: 0 2 2 4
Bermuda: 0 2 1 3
Curacao: 0 1 1 2
St. Lucia: 0 1 0 1
St. Kitts & Nevis: 0 0 2 2
Dominica: 0 0 2 2
Turks & Caicos: 0 0 1 1
Antigua & Barbuda: 0 0 1 1

[Willi]

Suppose that Ohara, Devaughn Jackson, Okeem Williams, Chrysdle Mac,Bann and Matherson all ran there? Next year we have Chris Williams, the Wolmers pair, a fit Raheem Chambers and Raheem Robinson to insert!

Woiiieee!

[Mosiah]

Our best don't always go to Carifta. never have, it seems, and perhaps never will. In fact, we should send our Class 3 and 2 teams only to that second rate meet.

[Willi]

wikid!

[Time]

Our best don't always go to Carifta. never have, it seems, and perhaps never will. In fact, we should send our Class 3 and 2 teams only to that second rate meet.

Wolmer's girls sprinters are on lockdown because most of the team is doing final exams. The not even allowed to go the Penn Relays.

[Historian]

Cannot Share That View

Our best don't always go to Carifta. never have, it seems, and perhaps never will. In fact, we should send our Class 3 and 2 teams only to that second rate meet.

I have seen this opinion stated elsewhere before, and I remain 100 percent opposed to this viewpoint. In fact, I’m still not sure why some of us choose to regard the top Caribbean junior track and field meet as a “second rate meet”!

In case you missed it, boss, one or two of the other islands are slowly catching up or surpassing us sometimes in certain areas. The fact is that there are important events in which we either no longer dominate as we used to in the past. In addition, it’s time we stop thinking that Boys & Girls Champs, important as they are, is the most important regional thing for our kids! Leave that narrow thinking to our politicians.

When I get an opportunity, I will say why I completely oppose the view expressed here. A much better idea, though, would be to try and invite the Spanish Caribbean islands (Cuba, Puerto Rico and the Dominican Republic) to become a part of the Carifta Games. (And yes, I am perfectly aware of the existence of the CAC Games.)

This is the type of attitude that has lead us to call the islands of the Eastern Caribbean “minnows”!

Arrogance like this won’t get us anywhere fast!

[Peter R]

As the leaders in T&F in the Caribbean I also think by sending a strong team it elevates the meet... sending a weak team is creating the proverbial self-fulfilling prophecy. There may be very good reasons though why some of the best athletes do not go... would the fact that the Penn Relays are in APril have an impact on who goes to Carifta?

I agree with the idea of inviting other athletes from countries that do not normally attend... who knows; next thing might be to create our own version of the Penn Relays... The CARIFTA RELAYS say... who knows?

[Historian]

Good Points, Boss

As the leaders in T&F in the Caribbean I also think by sending a strong team it elevates the meet... sending a weak team is creating the proverbial self-fulfilling prophecy. There may be very good reasons though why some of the best athletes do not go... would the fact that the Penn Relays are in APril have an impact on who goes to Carifta?

I agree with the idea of inviting other athletes from countries that do not normally attend... who knows; next thing might be to create our own version of the Penn Relays... The CARIFTA RELAYS say... who knows?

I love your post, Peter R; you have added some very good, relevant points.

Despite what was suggested elsewhere in this thread, most of the recent outstanding athletes of Jamaica (and other Caribbean countries) always attend the Carifta Games, but sometimes a tiny number (“one or two”) of our superstar Jamaican youngsters do not go for one reason or the other, including considerations related to the IAAF World Junior Championships, IAAF World Youth Championships,or the Penn Relays. (I have not included the Pan Am Juniors as that has clearly lost its glow.)

But make no doubt about it, the majority of our top athletes have represented us repeatedly at the Carifta Games, including luminaries like Usain Bolt, Yohan Blake, Melaine Walker, Veronica Campbell, Anneisha McClaughlin, Sherone Simpson, Simone Facey, Kerron Stewart, Aleen Bailey, and countless others.

The same goes for other lesser regional powers like the Bahamas and Trinidad & Tobago. Carifta has also repeatedly showcased the talents of other future world-class Caribbean athletes like Kirani James,Shaunea Miller, Anthonique Strachan, Mark Burns, Darrel Brown, Kim Collins, Christine Arron (when she represented Guadeloupe in her teen years), etc.

So, I am sadly amused (pardon the oxymoron) when people who claim to know about track and field try to diss the legacy of that great Barbadian visionary, Austin Sealy. Aside from Dennis Johnson and Stephen “Franno” Francis, I have yet to see similar vision coming from Jamaica, ironically a country which boasts a rich legacy in track and field since at least the1948 London Olympics.

[Historian]

Good Points, Boss

As the leaders in T&F in the Caribbean I also think by sending a strong team it elevates the meet... sending a weak team is creating the proverbial self-fulfilling prophecy. There may be very good reasons though why some of the best athletes do not go... would the fact that the Penn Relays are in APril have an impact on who goes to Carifta?

I agree with the idea of inviting other athletes from countries that do not normally attend... who knows; next thing might be to create our own version of the Penn Relays... The CARIFTA RELAYS say... who knows?

I love your post, Peter R; you have added some very good, relevant points.

Despite what was suggested elsewhere in this thread, most of the recent outstanding athletes of Jamaica (and other Caribbean countries) always attend the Carifta Games, but sometimes a tiny number (“one or two”) of our superstar Jamaican youngsters do not go for one reason or the other, including considerations related to the IAAF World Junior Championships, IAAF World Youth Championships,or the Penn Relays. (I have not included the Pan Am Juniors as that has clearly lost its glow.)

But make no doubt about it, the majority of our top athletes have represented us repeatedly at the Carifta Games, including luminaries like Usain Bolt, Yohan Blake, Melaine Walker, Veronica Campbell, Anneisha McClaughlin, Sherone Simpson, Simone Facey, Kerron Stewart, Aleen Bailey, and countless others.

The same goes for other lesser regional powers like the Bahamas and Trinidad & Tobago. Carifta has also repeatedly showcased the talents of other future world-class Caribbean athletes like Kirani James,Shaunea Miller, Anthonique Strachan, Mark Burns, Darrel Brown, Kim Collins, Christine Arron (when she represented Guadeloupe in her teen years), etc.

So, I am sadly amused (pardon the oxymoron) when people who claim to know about track and field try to diss the legacy of that great Barbadian visionary, Austin Sealy. Aside from Dennis Johnson and Stephen “Franno” Francis, I have yet to see similar vision coming from Jamaica, ironically a country which boasts a rich legacy in track and field since at least the1948 London Olympics.

[Mosiah]

Boys and Girls Champs means more than Carifta any day of the year. When you have Carifta Trials taking place a week before Champs, or even 2 weeks prior, you will not get some coaches risking their star athletes.

A just suh di ting set!

[Gamma]

after reading this my guess is that somewhereike Bahamas won the
most golds and the most medals overall by a huge margin.

It can only bee good for the other islands to do well and catch up. What is wrong with that? It means better competition all around.

[Gamma]

I am wondering if you see the irony of your post! I am hugely entertained! A legacy from 1948 until when? So JAM did not win every single gold silver and. Bronze, oh the horror!

reminds me of a line from the movie 'life of Brian' ..... So what exactly have the Romans done for us"

[Peter R]

Actually, Jamaica still "cleaned up"... I saw the 4x400 U20 set a new Carifta recod on the live stream... something like 3:05ish...

One thing I must give the Bahamians credit for besides the athletes' performances, is how they came out in their numbers and supported this meet... the stadium was pretty full and the organizer said it was sold out; the gaps in seating he said, that were opposite their grand stand were reserved for athletes , trainers, et al.

[Peter R]

Medal Standings
http://www.carifta2013.info/index.ph...ed-medal-count

[Willi]

The track not IAAF certified though. Shhhhhh.