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    Officialdom and the athletes
    Published: Sunday | September 6, 2009



    A. W. Sangster, Contributor
    There has been a series of incidents at the recently concluded IAAF World Championships in Berlin which are very disturbing. The continued poor relationship between the Jamaica Amateur Athletic Association (JAAA) and the MVP Club continues, and in the long run the athletes suffer. There is a long history in Jamaican track and field athletics of athletes suffering at the hands of officials through inefficiency, poor administration, injustice, plain vindictiveness and eventual cover-up.

    The following are some examples.

    1968 Mexico Olympics. The games started off on the wrong foot with the national flag being carried by Herbert McDonald, the president of the Jamaica Olympic Association (JOA). Many athletes, including Michael Fray, protested in the stands and did not join the parade. Team captain Clifton Forbes was left to try and settle the upset. The sprint relay team of Forbes, Fray, Miller and Stewart broke the world record in the heats though they did not medal. No recognition came their way from the Machado/Carreras Sports Foundation until this was corrected many years later.

    1976 Montreal Olympics. Michael Fray qualified and was selected to go but head coach Herb McKenley let it be known that if Fray went he would not go. JAAA president Richard Ashenheim surrendered to the ultimatum, arguing that Jamaica's chances of a sprint relay medal were poor. This was very surprising with a team of Quarrie (100 and 200m medallist), Miller, Fray and Bradford.

    1980 Moscow Olympics. The experience of Anthony Davis, who was one of two locally trained athletes to make the team, was documented in a report by a number of athletes at the games when he was bypassed for an ailing Bertland Cameron, who broke down shortly after starting the relay. It was all about the recognition of sponsors. Nothing came of the protest letter signed by several members of the team.

    1984 Los Angeles. After the games the papers were full of the 'Shoe War' at the games in which the women's relay team was changed on the basis of whose sponsor's shoes were being worn. There were many protests at the time, including that of Grace Jackson, and the media called for an enquiry. The Minister of Sport at the time, Ed Bartlett, called for an enquiry and a howl went up about politics interfering in sport. No enquiry was held by either the JAAA or the JOA. One result was an attempt by one of the officials at the LA Games to organise a slate to contest the next JAAA elections. The upstarts were wiped out and the old guard remained.

    2000 Sydney Olympics. The move to replace Peta-Gay Dowdie by Merlene Ottey brought forth placard-bearing protest by Jamaican athletes, which led to the threatened banning of the team by the organisers. We never did hear: was Peta -Gay sick or was she just being 'replaced' by the Merlene Ottey star?

    2008 Beijing Olympics. The issue of the 'camp' surfaced for the first time in recent history and it was the intervention of a leading Jamaican banker which helped to keep the team together. A new name had come on the scene. The athletes of the MVP Club with coach Stephen Francis performed in spectacular fashion, along with Usain Bolt, coached by Glen Mills.

    Before turning to the Berlin IAAF Championships some comment needs to be made on the quite fundamental changes that have taken place in athletics. Essentially, the rules of the game have changed and there is a new operational paradigm. Some of the historical changes are the following.

    The amateur status of athletes: Initially, athletes competed for individual glory and for the country that they represented. Prizes could be awarded but no money was to be paid to the winners in the early days of track and field athletics.

    The move to professionalism meant that winners gained handsome rewards and there were, in some cases gold bars to be won for a series of events. Million-dollar rewards are now in the offing.

    The role of agents, managers and professional coaches: These positions have all come about with the professionalism of the athletes. The complexity of the athletics calendar requires a battery of support persons who organise schedules for athletes, make contact with the various meet directors to get their athletes into a particular event and help to manage their money.

    With the greater knowledge of the science and technology of the sport, the coach's role has also changed dramatically. The coach has been elevated to playing the role of a highly trained individual who is knowledgeable about anatomy and physiology, the care of injuries, the science and technology of each sport, diet, biochemistry and energy, on doping rules and the use of drugs. He or she has also to be a psychiatrist and counsellor and with extensive international connections.

    The role of the sponsors: Sport is a billion-dollar business and the various sporting sponsors - Nike, Adidas, Puma, etc - all wish to have a particular successful athlete in their fold. Many athletes have made a successful career in the world of athletics through sponsorship. In fact, the new reality is that success with sponsorship is critical to survival.

    The world governing bodies. With a great deal at stake in the holding of these international events, the successful planning and organisation is critical. Television stations vie for the right to carry the programme. Sponsors are at hand to support and have their names emblazoned on the sports venues and fields. The world body wants a good show with the best of performers.

    We can now understand the role of the IAAF President Lamine Diack in "persuading" JAAA President Howard Aris and IAAF regional representative Teddy McCook to withdraw the banning of the MVP athletes from the Berlin Games. He read them a multimillion-dollar balance sheet. To quote IAAF general secretary, Pierre Weiss, "We want to assure the quality of the Championships."

    This raises another matter: The pre-event camp and the Athletes Village. An understanding of these two items is important.

    The pre-event camp which stirred the controversy in Berlin is a pre-event place for the athletes to mix and mingle before the village opens. The camp is selected on the basis of bids by cities and towns for the privilege of hosting the national team. The camp was held in the city of Nuremberg. Jamaica, which has become more famous in recent times, would be a prime country to have in your town or city. There are, of course, perks to the country whose athletes go to the city. Then there are the questions of the overall suitability of the camp and the facilities available for the last days before the competition, and the national requirement for all athletes to attend the camp.

    There is also the question of these critical days before the event being under the care of the individual coach. This has been the issue raised by Francis, who has been using a site in Italy with first-class facilities for the past several years, which is perfect for him and his athletes. The question that has now to be raised is the statement that Birmingham has been selected by the JAAA for the pre-London Olympics in 2012. Are those facilities ideal, and what have the terms been for the selection?

    The Games Village, which opens some days before the event, is a fully equipped facility provided by the IAAF through its national (German) partner in the games. There is adequate time for mixing and mingling and for relay practice. Francis' athletes were there.

    We return to Berlin and the JAAA performance. The JAAA operation and management at the 2009 IAAF Championships, Berlin. The JAAA performance has left a lot to be desired as far as the athletes were concerned, and Tony Becca in his column in The Gleaner on August 30 described the JAAA leadership in Berlin as being weak and unprofessional. Some of the concerns are:

    1. The positive drug test of the five athletes. The long delays in processing the test and the appeal by the JADCO have complicated the matter in the public's minds. The statement by Professor Errol Morrison, the head of JADCO, that it was for the benefit of the athletes that the process was challenged indicates serious flaws in the overall review process. There was a great deal of confusion in the public's minds, and the decision by the JAAA to send the athletes who had this question mark over their drug status was at best unfortunate. It is obvious that the JAAA were clearly hoping that they would have been able to take part in Berlin. The four local athletes were all members of a local track club.

    2. The men's sprint relay team. Relay teams are allowed substitutes and it is clear that the planning for this event left a lot to be desired. It is also clear that the team management obviously hoped that some of the drug-tested group would be able to run. With both Bolt and Powell being rested and the drug-test group not being able to participate, the team for the heats was a shaky second eleven. The stark reality is that had the German team not dropped the baton the Jamaican team would not likely have made the final. Bolt would have been denied his third gold medal!

    3. Steve Mullings missed the medal ceremony. First, we were told that Mullings was ill, and subsequently the story was told that he missed the bus and was late. Which do we believe?

    4. There has been a great deal of controversy on Veronica Campbell-Brown's withdrawing from the sprint relay. There are several issues to consider:

    The team management has the right and authority to assign the team members and the positions and the legs that they will run. Veronica, as a veteran curve runner, had no authority to state that she would only run the anchor leg which had been practised at the camp. The situation had changed with the team members and it was sad that she "walked away". She ended up by accusing the JAAA of being "unprofessional".

    Shelly-Ann Fraser (local of MVP) and Kerron Stewart (overseas university) both were recovering from injury problems and would be better placed in the straights rather than the curve legs (1 and 3).

    Where the JAAA erred is in failing to communicate in sympathetic terms with Veronica in spite of an offer which was made to try and heal the breach. It was again an arrogant take-it-or-leave-it position and, according to Veronica, a decision communicated to her 90 minutes before the race.

    It is to Veronica's credit that she said that the team was doing well and that since she was not going to run the anchor leg she did not want to upset their chances.

    5. The threat to exclude the MVP athletes. The camp issue has already been discussed and, by extension, the question has to be asked: Who would have been hurt by the exclusion of the MVP athletes? Clearly the athletes and, by extension, Jamaica's performance. It is interesting to note the following quite remarkable performances of these athletes.

    Individually: 3 gold, 1 silver and 1 bronze medals.

    In relays having: Members of the teams that won 2 gold and 1 silver medal.

    Winning 50 per cent of the individual medals won by Jamaicans.

    It is also clear that the inner-city communities of Waterhouse with Shelly-Ann Fraser, and Maxfield Avenue with Melaine Walker, would have viewed the elimination of 'their' athlete with great disfavour.

    It is said that an enquiry is to be held on the coach and the athletes. This should be welcomed, provided it is a public enquiry and not some hidden in camera event.

    THE WAY FORWARD

    Jamaica missed out on a glorious opportunity to do Jamaican business and promotion at the games. First, ministers Ed Bartlett and 'Babsy' Grange and tourism mogul John Lynch missed out on the potential for serious promotion of Jamaican products and Destination Jamaica. This was to capitalise on the Bolt phenomenon and the Jamaica performance in coming second in the medals table. It is not too late to capitalise on the Bolt mania and use 'Butch' Stewart's suggestion of asking Usain to be the spokesman in a commercial about Jamaica.

    Second, the JAAA administration, dominated by the KC old boys, has proved itself to be a self-serving organisation with crowds of delegates being accredited as friends and hangers-on to the KC label. In seeking to discredit Stephen Francis, it embarrassed itself and Jamaica, and Francis has in turn viewed their attitude with contempt and simply ignored them. In addition, there have been serious errors listed above. There has to be a way forward.

    1. The JAAA has to recognise that there is a new game in town, as outlined above. The arrogant attitude of not recognising the new paradigm has no constructive future. There needs to be greater flexibility in the national interest on issues such as camp requirements, registration, etc. The JAAA is also due for serious house-cleaning.

    2. Government and the sponsoring private sector have to recognise the significant shift that has occurred in the training of athletes. Seventy per cent of the gold medal-winning athletes were locally trained. This is where the support should now be directed.

    3. There is need for healing and reconciliation of those who have been hurt in Berlin.

    Perhaps the two coaching giants - Francis and Mills - could begin the forward movement as it is clear that new blood and new attitudes are needed.

    So we have come full circle: from Michael Fray in Mexico and Montreal, Peta-Gay Dowdie in Sydney, Anthony Davis in Moscow and Veronica Campbell-Brown in Berlin - the saga continues
    THERE IS ONLY ONE ONANDI LOWE!

    "Good things come out of the garrisons" after his daughter won the 100m Gold For Jamaica.


    "It therefore is useless and pointless, unless it is for share malice and victimisation to arrest and charge a 92-year-old man for such a simple offence. There is nothing morally wrong with this man smoking a spliff; the only thing wrong is that it is still on the law books," said Chevannes.

  • #2
    Officialdom and the athletes (Part II)
    Published: Saturday | February 13, 2010



    From left, Anderson, Brooks and Fothergill.
    A. W. Sangster, Gleaner Writer

    In an article in The Sunday Gleaner of September 6, 2009, reference was made to the treatment of athletes by 'Officialdom', and one specific case dealt with the five athletes who were involved in official enquiries and drug bans for four of those athletes. The cases are still pending and this article seeks to summarise and clarify the issues associated with the athletes' cases, and outlines in detail the issues involved in these cases. Other issues which were raised in letters to the press will be dealt with subsequently.

    THE FORMAL ESTABLISHMENT OF A DOPING CONTROL PROGRAMME IN JAMAICA

    The World Anti-Doping Agency (WADA) was established in 1999 to promote, coordinate and monitor the fight against doping in sport in all forms.

    The Jamaica Anti-Doping Commission was formally established in 2005 to formulate and carry out Jamaica's Anti-Doping Policy in line with the World Anti-Doping Programme.

    Although formally established in 2005, the commission was essentially stillborn as there was no office, no testing programme and no legislation to legitimise its operations. The legislation was passed by the new Government in 2008 to formally establish the Jamaica Anti-Doping Commission (JADCO). Dr Patrece Charles Freeman was appointed to the post of executive director in January 2008, and set about the establishment of an office, secretariat, and drug-testing procedures. This was important for Jamaica's name in athletics, as the Beijing Olympics were due in that year and queries were being raised about Jamaica's drug-testing programme.

    The legislation - The Anti-Doping in Sport Act, 2008 - established three legal entities whose members are appointed by the minister responsible for sports. The role of these entities will be discussed in the case of the five athletes mentioned above. Some generalities will first be presented and then the details of the athletes cases before the various agencies.

    THE GENERALITIES IN THE ANTI-DOPING PROCESS

    The principal agencies involved in the process as it advances are as follows:

    FIRST, THE JAMAICA ANTI-DOPING COMMISSION (JADCO)

    JADCO is the national organisation responsible for the national drug-testing programme, which involves an important controlled 'Chain of Custody' of the test samples. It is recognised as the legally established national Anti-Doping Organisation (ADO). The responsibilities are:

    Testing of the athlete by a JADCO Doping Control Officer (DCO), with an allowed athlete's representative present. 'A' & 'B' samples are taken.

    Sending the samples to be tested by an approved lab. Initially, the 'A' sample is tested.

    Receiving the lab report of the 'A' sample test.

    If a banned substance is identified by the lab, known as an Adverse Analytical Finding (AAF), JADCO then notifies all the relevant parties of the adverse finding. The parties are: The athlete, World Anti-Doping Agency (WADA), the IAAF, the JAAA and the JADCO board. The athlete could be provisionally suspended.

    The Adverse Analytical Finding is then referred to the Anti-Doping Disciplinary Panel and the athlete informed. The 'B' sample analysis will be important as to whether it validates the 'A' sample result. The athlete has the right to request the test of the 'B' sample or not.

    SECOND, THE ANTI-DOPING DISCIPLINARY PANEL

    The panel has a group membership of three lawyers, three doctors and three from the athletic fraternity, and is established to deal with cases where an Adverse Analytical Finding is established by the lab. The panel will review the case with the athlete and his or her 'agent' and pronounce whether the athlete is guilty or not. Each individual panel consists of three members - one from each group above, with a senior practising attorney as the chairman.

    THIRD, THE ANTI-DOPING APPEALS TRIBUNAL

    The tribunal is mandated to hear appeals from either an athlete or JADCO, following a ruling by the Disciplinary Panel.

    THE SPECIFICS OF THE ANTI-DOPING CASES OF THE FIVE ATHLETES

    The role of the three agencies mentioned earlier will now be outlined in the specific cases of the five athletes. As the process went on, four of the athletes - Yohan Blake, Marvin Anderson, Allodin Fothergill and Lansford Spence - were treated separately from the fifth athlete - Sheri-Ann Brooks - for reasons that will become clear in the sequel. The overall process is summarised in Figure I.

    THE JAMAICA ANTI-DOPING COMMISSION (JADCO)

    Following the sampling and testing of the samples of the five athletes:

    All five athletes had an Adverse Analytical Finding lab report on their 'A' samples. This result was due to taking the stimulant 'Muscle Speed', which contained the chemical compound 4-methly-2- hexanamine, which is considered to have a similar chemical structure or biological effect to Tuaminoheptane, which is on the banned list.

    The four athletes waived their right to the testing of the 'B' sample while Brooks requested that her 'B' sample be tested. This was the initial basis for the separate treatment.

    There was an unfortunate miscommunication problem between JADCO, the athlete, her agents and the lab. The fact is that the testing of Brooks' 'B' sample was conducted without either the athlete or a representative being present. This is a fundamental requirement of the testing process. The test was therefore both technically and legally invalid. Brooks' 'B' sample allegedly also tested positive.

    JADCO referred the Adverse Analytical Findings of the 'A' samples to the Disciplinary Panel.

    THE ANTI-DOPING DISCIPLINARY PANEL (ADP)

    The Disciplinary Panel, chaired by attorney Kent Gammon, met separately to discuss the two cases.

    In summary:

    In the case of the four athletes, a not-guilty verdict was given. The decision was based, among other things, on the argument that the chemical found in the laboratory test was not on the banned list.

    In the case of Brooks, the athlete was found not guilty on the basis of a procedural error in the testing of the 'B' sample.

    JADCO appealed the decision of the Disciplinary Panel and the matter was then referred to the Anti-Doping Appeals Tribunal, headed by the late Justice R.G. Langrin (rtd.)

    A detailed summary of the arguments at the panel hearings now follows:

    The case of the four: The decision of the Disciplinary Panel and the Anti-Doping Tribunal, which later heard an appeal, turned on the chemical structure and the functional use of the banned substance.

    The athlete's case, presented by two chemists who gave evidence, argued in summary as follows:

    The substance found in the 'A' samples (4-methly-2- hexanamine) and a similar compound - (Tuaminoheptane) which is on the banned list, although having similar chemical molecular formulae (C7H17N) are not the same. (This was never claimed by the lab).

    That although the two compounds have identical molecular structures, they are structurally different.

    That there are many examples in which minor structural differences or spatial positions of atoms have had fundamentally different properties and effects.

    That the substance was not on the banned list.

    That Tuaminoheptane is classified by the WHO on the Anatomical Therapeutic Chemical (ATC) classification, while 4-methly-2- hexanamine is not.

    That the athletes had sought technical advice before taking the stimulant, and that the manufacturer's label on Muscle Speed claimed it to be WADA-compliant.

    The JADCO case rested on the following points which were made in a WADA paper on the topic.

    That the two substances are chemically very similar and are functionally both in the class of compounds known as amines, which are well known to have stimulant properties.

    That the two compounds differed marginally in the position of a methyl (CH3) group on a carbon chain.

    That the position of the significant functional amine (NH2) group is in the exact same relative position in both compounds.

    That the compound found in the AAF had previously been identified as having stimulant adrenergic properties, had been the subject of a patent, and had been used by body builders.

    That the compound is similar to compounds having similar pharmacological properties, such as amphetamine and ephedrine.

    That although the compound was not on the prohibited list, its structure and function are such as to classify it as a compound with Adverse Analytical Findings.

    That it was planned to add the compound to the banned list in 2010.

    The compound found in the 'A' samples and the compound which is being used for comparison on the WADA banned list have similar structures. They also have different chemical names as well as trade and trivial names. They can be considered - as illustrated in the WADA submission to the Anti-Doping Disciplinary Panel - as being a six carbon chain with a methyl (CH3) group at different points on the chain. Their structures are shown below, as well as the structure of Amphetamine, which has similarities to both and is a related stimulant. See Figure 2.

    The Disciplinary Panel was persuaded by the arguments of the local chemists and returned a not-guilty verdict. It is interesting to note that the panel in its report made the comment that the athletes ought to have mentioned the use of an enhancement product in their drug test report sheet.

    JADCO appealed the decision, which was then referred to the Anti-Doping Tribunal.

    The Case of Brooks

    It was pointed out earlier that there was a procedural flaw - according to WADA rules - in the testing of the 'B' sample, which therefore invalidated the result. The Disciplinary Panel therefore returned a not-guilty verdict.

    While JADCO formally appealed, it did not contest the case. The not-guilty verdict by the Disciplinary Panel, later confirmed by the tribunal, has led to further uncertainty, as the athlete has claimed to have been sidelined for competition during the year.

    THE ANTI-DOPING APPEALS TRIBUNAL

    In the case of the four.

    The JADCO appeal was based on the specific guideline on drugs, which states that a chemical could be tested positive even if it was not specifically on the drug banned list. This was: If it is chemically similar in structure or similar in effect to a drug on the banned list.

    The tribunal hearing the arguments from attorneys and the ADP reports ruled against the Anti-Doping Panel (ADP) verdict and supported the JADCO appeal. The athletes were reprimanded and given a three-month ban from September 14. The sanctions were based on the following mitigating circumstances:

    That the chemical was not expressly stated on the WADA prohibited list.

    That the athletes consulted their management team to avoid taking any banned substance. However, this advice was flawed. They also relied on the manufacturers warranty label that: 'Muscle Speed is WADA-Compliant'.

    It was a first violation.

    The overall process is summarised in Figure 1.

    SUMMARY ON THE DRUG TEST RESULTS AND CONCLUSIONS

    The Disciplinary Panel and the tribunal differed in their response to the arguments of the chemists and the JADCO/WADA submission.. My own view is that the tribunal acted correctly.

    What remains outstanding is the status of all five athletes.

    The suspension of the four ended on December 14, 2009, while Brooks had no suspension at all.

    However, it still remains for the IAAF and WADA to rule on both cases.

    Who should enquire - JADCO or the local JAAA?

    In my view, the JAAA should enquire on the status of these athletes, as JADCO is a testing agency,

    The analysis of the tests on the five athletes represents an important test case for our Jamaican athletes. It demonstrates a number of important principles.

    First, athletes have to be very careful of what they eat and drink, and in particular what 'stimulants' they use. The athlete will be held personally responsible for any banned substance found in his or her body.

    Second, the programme of drug testing will be a safeguard to Jamaican athletes. For many years, overseas athletes - first in Germany, with anabolic steroids, and later in the US, with many different types of drugs - succeeded at the international level in what was clearly not a level playing field.

    Third, the credibility of our own testing programme can stand up to international review.

    SOME OUTSTANDING ISSUES

    1. The dates of various events

    It is a fact that some JAAA executives had hopes that the athletes who were initially found not guilty could participate in Berlin. The JAAA was, however, warned that if the athletes were found guilty in the JADCO appeal they would prejudice all the Jamaican team. Wiser judgement prevailed in not entering the athletes. However, the hope led to inadequate men's relay preparation with backup team members for the men's sprint relay team.

    The dates of the tests and the hearings and the Berlin IAAF Championships are as follows:

    A. Testing dates:

    Testing dates, June 26-28:

    Samples to lab, July 2: Report from lab. On Adverse Analytical Finding July 20; athletes notified July 24 and advised of disciplinary hearing on August 7.

    B. Disciplinary Panel:

    Brooks - August 7 - Not-guilty verdict

    Four athletes - August 9 - Not-guilty verdict

    C. Berlin IAAF Championships:

    August 15-23 - JAAA hopes to enter athletes

    D. Tribunal

    Four athletes - August 31, Sept 2, 14 - Guilty with sanctions.

    Notes

    1. Acknowledgement is made to helpful discussions with the executive director of JADCO and the chairman of the Disciplinary Panel.

    2. Other background items on the issue are available on the following websites: TrackAlerts.com and All-Athletes-Com

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    THERE IS ONLY ONE ONANDI LOWE!

    "Good things come out of the garrisons" after his daughter won the 100m Gold For Jamaica.


    "It therefore is useless and pointless, unless it is for share malice and victimisation to arrest and charge a 92-year-old man for such a simple offence. There is nothing morally wrong with this man smoking a spliff; the only thing wrong is that it is still on the law books," said Chevannes.

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    • #3
      Originally posted by X View Post
      Officialdom and the athletes
      Published: Sunday | September 6, 2009



      A. W. Sangster, Contributor
      There has been a series of incidents at the recently concluded IAAF World Championships in Berlin which are very disturbing. The continued poor relationship between the Jamaica Amateur Athletic Association (JAAA) and the MVP Club continues, and in the long run the athletes suffer. There is a long history in Jamaican track and field athletics of athletes suffering at the hands of officials through inefficiency, poor administration, injustice, plain vindictiveness and eventual cover-up.


      The role of the sponsors: Sport is a billion-dollar business and the various sporting sponsors - Nike, Adidas, Puma, etc - all wish to have a particular successful athlete in their fold. Many athletes have made a successful career in the world of athletics through sponsorship. In fact, the new reality is that success with sponsorship is critical to survival.

      The world governing bodies. With a great deal at stake in the holding of these international events, the successful planning and organisation is critical. Television stations vie for the right to carry the programme. Sponsors are at hand to support and have their names emblazoned on the sports venues and fields. The world body wants a good show with the best of performers.

      We can now understand the role of the IAAF President Lamine Diack in "persuading" JAAA President Howard Aris and IAAF regional representative Teddy McCook to withdraw the banning of the MVP athletes from the Berlin Games. He read them a multimillion-dollar balance sheet. To quote IAAF general secretary, Pierre Weiss, "We want to assure the quality of the Championships."

      This raises another matter: The pre-event camp and the Athletes Village. An understanding of these two items is important.

      The pre-event camp which stirred the controversy in Berlin is a pre-event place for the athletes to mix and mingle before the village opens. The camp is selected on the basis of bids by cities and towns for the privilege of hosting the national team. The camp was held in the city of Nuremberg. Jamaica, which has become more famous in recent times, would be a prime country to have in your town or city. There are, of course, perks to the country whose athletes go to the city.
      One of the many things I wondered on was that matter of cities vying for and winning right to host teams - Was there quid pro quo on the MVP and that Italian city? If so, would MVP athletes being away
      from the JA team mean then...and going forward...reduced returns to the JAAA?

      Certainly it was JA being invited to the major nation games - Pan AM, Commonwealth, Olympic and World Champs, etc. Does this mean it could trickle down to lower levels and say at Carifta...KC's or Vere's atheles going off and setting up camp away from the JA team and negotiating own unique benefits?

      One thing I know the JAAA must set its house in order and circulate clear rules on the way forward. That MVP type going off doing its own thing is a 'nonsense' policy.

      Policy must be set by national bodies and all must toe the line. ...or we shall get to the day when with increasing opportunities and avenues for the development of athletes...where a team of 40 athletes may have 10 powerful private MVP type bodies and 20 or so world class coaches with 1 athlete all going off in 30 different directions at these meets --- and thus dilution of efforts and chaos becomes the 'new order'!

      I wondered also if, smart man that he is, A. W. Sangster did not deliberately not address these matters?
      "Never doubt that a small group of thoughtful, committed citizens can change the world. Indeed, it is the only thing that ever has."

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      • #4
        Quid pro quo? I think Sangster does address it when he states that the JAAA has to operate in new paragidms1.


        1. The JAAA has to recognize that there is a new game in town, as outlined above. The arrogant attitude of not recognizing the new paradigm has no constructive future. There needs to be greater flexibility in the national interest on issues such as camp requirements, registration, etc. The JAAA is also due for serious house-cleaning.

        Part of this new paradigm is recognizing that T&F is a professional sport where various organizations will offer Quid pro Quo arrangements for various professional camps that rival national organizations or in some cases make them obsolete.

        Imaging a Quid pro quo arrangement where a camp is guaranteed X amount off monies to prepare under a NIKE banner i.e. the MVP NIKE CAMP or RACERS PUMA CAMP etc.

        Compare that to the Jamaica camp sponsored by the Beijing Olympic committee.

        That’s the new professional house that T&F lives in , get real JAAA, they must make allowances for camps to maximize every red cent in the name of the nations interest. If they cannot find a way to do this then they all should step aside.

        I know the questions from the naysayers will be what national interest and the answer is as plain as day, free positive international advertisement for a nation that can last a life time, uncalculatable.

        Let me ask dont you think thats the way the Quid pro Qou world is going why should Jamaica be left behind , if your answer is national pride , then I will say its nonsense on par with madness.
        Last edited by Sir X; February 13, 2010, 04:50 PM.
        THERE IS ONLY ONE ONANDI LOWE!

        "Good things come out of the garrisons" after his daughter won the 100m Gold For Jamaica.


        "It therefore is useless and pointless, unless it is for share malice and victimisation to arrest and charge a 92-year-old man for such a simple offence. There is nothing morally wrong with this man smoking a spliff; the only thing wrong is that it is still on the law books," said Chevannes.

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        • #5
          Karl know better dan dat.

          Comparing the pros to Carifta...hahahahahahaha.

          America dont force their athletes into camps!!!!!!

          Unno nuh see that Nike a drop Yankee athletes like hot potato over their non-performance???

          MVP would damn fool fi go to substandard camp and have a relatively bad result like in the past (eg Beijing). Their preps depend on very SPECIFIC quantity of work in the days leading up to competition. This is very scientific stuff and require precise measurement. Dont mess with what works!

          Karl, this is the people livelihood, cut them some slack.

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          • #6
            Originally posted by X View Post
            Quid pro quo? I think Sangster does address it when he states that the JAAA has to operate in new paragidms1.


            1. The JAAA has to recognize that there is a new game in town, as outlined above. The arrogant attitude of not recognizing the new paradigm has no constructive future. There needs to be greater flexibility in the national interest on issues such as camp requirements, registration, etc. The JAAA is also due for serious house-cleaning.

            Part of this new paradigm is recognizing that T&F is a professional sport where various organizations will offer Quid pro Quo arrangements for various professional camps that rival national organizations or in some cases make them obsolete.

            Imaging a Quid pro quo arrangement where a camp is guaranteed X amount off monies to prepare under a NIKE banner i.e. the MVP NIKE CAMP or RACERS PUMA CAMP etc.

            Compare that to the Jamaica camp sponsored by the Beijing Olympic committee.

            That’s the new professional house that T&F lives in , get real JAAA, they must make allowances for camps to maximize every red cent in the name of the nations interest. If they cannot find a way to do this then they all should step aside.

            I know the questions from the naysayers will be what national interest and the answer is as plain as day, free positive international advertisement for a nation that can last a life time, uncalculatable.

            Let me ask dont you think thats the way the Quid pro Qou world is going why should Jamaica be left behind , if your answer is national pride , then I will say its nonsense on par with madness.
            I wonder why you...like A.W. Sangster...overlook the JAAA's JAMAICA squad negotiating with companies that are even larger than NIke or Adidas and making the share given to an MVP, Racers or such organisation make that such an organisation could negotiate and would receive on its own (standing alone) be lacka nutten...like peanuts?!

            Unnuh fi ho-pen unnuh minds! ...bus down unnuh mental barriers...mi a beg unnuh?
            "Never doubt that a small group of thoughtful, committed citizens can change the world. Indeed, it is the only thing that ever has."

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            • #7
              Originally posted by Willi View Post
              Karl know better dan dat.

              Comparing the pros to Carifta...hahahahahahaha.

              America dont force their athletes into camps!!!!!!

              Unno nuh see that Nike a drop Yankee athletes like hot potato over their non-performance???

              MVP would damn fool fi go to substandard camp and have a relatively bad result like in the past (eg Beijing). Their preps depend on very SPECIFIC quantity of work in the days leading up to competition. This is very scientific stuff and require precise measurement. Dont mess with what works!

              Karl, this is the people livelihood, cut them some slack.
              Well Willi you know my thinking...you do not conform to the NATIONAL authorised body's rulings...you do not take part!

              That is why the JAAA's need to make the rules clear NOW...such that at the next 'meet of nations' if MVP or any other athlete is out - a fi dem fault!
              "Never doubt that a small group of thoughtful, committed citizens can change the world. Indeed, it is the only thing that ever has."

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              • #8
                "That is why the JAAA's need to make the rules clear NOW" It will never happen.

                That reminds me of how many times posters ask for JA to Change/Refom the Consitiution, this wont happen, not when it suits which ever Party is in power to frig wid the people.

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                • #9
                  The Jaa should negotiate for individual professional camps under the banner of the Jaaa? Is that what you are proposing?

                  Who are these companies that are bigger than nike, adiddas etc?That are offering Quid pro quo arrangements for various camps?

                  Is the word could your escape clause in your arguement...lolol

                  My response to your presentaton is why havent they JAAA done it before ?..lol
                  THERE IS ONLY ONE ONANDI LOWE!

                  "Good things come out of the garrisons" after his daughter won the 100m Gold For Jamaica.


                  "It therefore is useless and pointless, unless it is for share malice and victimisation to arrest and charge a 92-year-old man for such a simple offence. There is nothing morally wrong with this man smoking a spliff; the only thing wrong is that it is still on the law books," said Chevannes.

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by X View Post
                    The Jaa should negotiate for individual professional camps under the banner of the Jaaa? Is that what you are proposing?

                    Who are these companies that are bigger than nike, adiddas etc?That are offering Quid pro quo arrangements for various camps?

                    Is the word could your escape clause in your arguement...lolol

                    My response to your presentaton is why havent they JAAA done it before ?..lol

                    ...perhaps they did not think of it? ...perhaps they still have not?
                    "Never doubt that a small group of thoughtful, committed citizens can change the world. Indeed, it is the only thing that ever has."

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                    • #11
                      While you and the Jaaa hide behind could, perhaps and old archiac rules , the

                      real world or new world with T&F camps and organizations operate in quid

                      quo pro arrangements making millions,mining goal for thier respective nations

                      making some national organizations obsolete....the new paradigm.
                      THERE IS ONLY ONE ONANDI LOWE!

                      "Good things come out of the garrisons" after his daughter won the 100m Gold For Jamaica.


                      "It therefore is useless and pointless, unless it is for share malice and victimisation to arrest and charge a 92-year-old man for such a simple offence. There is nothing morally wrong with this man smoking a spliff; the only thing wrong is that it is still on the law books," said Chevannes.

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                      • #12
                        Tru dat!

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